CHANGES: Rd 09 vs Carlton

[Ted Lasso 19,516]

1 minute ago, leave it to deever said:

Cant Sw or Tmac help in the ruck?

They could. but i think Daw is comfortably better in the ruck than either.  and the real big plus Jackson was bringing to the team was his work in the ruck and stoppages. i think we lose a little bit in the midfield where we need it taking that option. 

I won't be unhappy if we go with Weid. but my preference would be Daw based on trying to cover what we've lost. 

[leave it to deever 17,511]

5 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

They could. but i think Daw is comfortably better in the ruck than either.  and the real big plus Jackson was bringing to the team was his work in the ruck and stoppages. i think we lose a little bit in the midfield where we need it taking that option. 

I won't be unhappy if we go with Weid. but my preference would be Daw based on trying to cover what we've lost. 

Daw would be a better ruck option but goal scoring would go to Sw. 

 

[Ted Lasso 19,516]

Just now, leave it to deever said:

Daw would be a better ruck option but goal scoring would go to Sw. 

 

Agreed, which is why i prefer Daw. we lost the clearances drastically last week, but we've had no issues kicking a winning score. i'd rather sure up the midfield than the forward line at this stage, but that's just me. 

if weid gets a go it'll be really exciting to see the 3 headed monster in action at the G 

[DeeZee 7,393]

One change

Out Dogga - injured 

In Choofta

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Daw in this instance.  Allows Big M to play a forward role much of the time covering for LJ up forward.

LJ is pretty good at getting to the contest, bringing the ball to ground and at ground level.  I think Max does similar, especially ground level, quite well.

Weid is a decent mark/kick forward but not so good in the ruck and very ordinary at ground level (so far).  Plus risking him with a fair chunk of game time in the ruck is probably not a great idea as I'd rather see him kept in cotton wool and ready to go as a replacement forward should either of Tmac or BB be injured or need to be managed at some point during such a long season.

Edited May 12, 2021 by Rusty Nails

[Josh 1,420]

If they don't bring Weideman in now they may as well offer him up in the mid season draft

[Big Demon 197]

3 minutes ago, Josh said:

If they don't bring Weideman in now they may as well offer him up in the mid season draft

Agreed, if Weideman sees Daw selected in front of him he will be looking for the exits

[DubDee 25,860]

No way Daw gets a run. He has not proven himself in the ruck. He has also not proven himself up forward.  This over 11 seasons

weed should come in. If not sparrow or chandler 

[ManDee 7,146]

In Weed. Tmac 2nd ruck.

[Garbo 1,534]

Has to be Weid in for Jackson, as good a time as any to see over the next 2 weeks if 3 genuine tall fwds is better than 2 and a resting ruck. If all 3 fire and Gawn is still as effective round the ground then on balance it might be a better mix, thing is we won’t know till we try.

[BScotti 178]

has to be in Weid, out LJ, TMac to take LJ role.  Do we give Sparrow a run in lieu of Melk?

 

[Jaded No More 68,915]

Out : Jacko

In: Weid 

 

[Adam The God 30,249]

50 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

@Yokozuna was on the money.

Well done mate.

Yep, never doubted it. Yoko is always on the money.

Weideman in for Jackson. I wonder if we'll make any other changes. I'd say not.

[Yokozuna 1,004]

11 minutes ago, A F said:

Yep, never doubted it. Yoko is always on the money.

Weideman in for Jackson. I wonder if we'll make any other changes. I'd say not.

Wish my news was of a more positive nature though.

Will try and find out more, but I believe Weed will come in and both he and TMac will have stints in the ruck.

 

[BDA 22,753]

I get the like for like logic of bringing Daw in but if we can integrate the Weid and find a role for him we will be a much stronger team. He offers much more than Daw.  

[dazzledavey36 54,923]

9 minutes ago, Yokozuna said:

Wish my news was of a more positive nature though.

Will try and find out more, but I believe Weed will come in and both he and TMac will have stints in the ruck.

 

It's positive for me.

It's nothing against Jackson at all and I'm his number 1 fan! 

But the Weideman, McDonald and Brown trio is a seriously tantalising prospect to watch.

Jackson can have a couple of weeks rest and refresh ready for a big 2nd half.

[Turner 1,514]

weid and bowey in 

LJ and hunt out

ANB improved on his 0 tackles v north to 8 v sydney which was awesome to see but i find myself naming the same two "whipping boys" as having returned to previous form as the season progresses after a purple month to begin with

[Ted Lasso 19,516]

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It's positive for me.

It's nothing against Jackson at all and I'm his number 1 fan! 

But the Weideman, McDonald and Brown trio is a seriously tantalising prospect to watch.

Jackson can have a couple of weeks rest and refresh ready for a big 2nd half.

Throw in Kozzie and Fritsch and i can't think of a more potent forward line. it's genuinely scary to think a player of Fritsch quality could get the 4th defender. 

[Demons11 7,011]

11 minutes ago, Turner said:

weid and bowey in 

LJ and hunt out

ANB improved on his 0 tackles v north to 8 v sydney which was awesome to see but i find myself naming the same two "whipping boys" as having returned to previous form as the season progresses after a purple month to begin with

Bowey is no chance! 

[adonski 12,126]

Fristch might kick 12 on Docherty

[Demonstone 22,517]

Whoever suggested Bowey in is clearly a lad insane.

Carlton-supporting acquaintance reckons Cripps won't play.  Given his recent form, I'm not sure whether that would be a good thing or a bad thing for us.

[Turner 1,514]

9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Bowey is no chance! 

 

1 minute ago, demonstone said:

Whoever suggested Bowey in is clearly a lad insane.

Carlton-supporting acquaintance reckons Cripps won't play.  Given his recent form, I'm not sure whether that would be a good thing or a bad thing for us.

based on what? unless he's done an acl in the last two hours i'd say there is a chance he could be picked. we should feel comfortable enough in our system and form that if players warrant selection we can reward them and if players get complacent in the side we can put them on notice

[CHF 2,738]

With Jackson's injury it will make for an interesting selection night.

Personally I would bring Weideman in for Jackson and look at rotating both Weideman and Tmac into the ruck as the game requires. We get a chance to mix and match the forward talls to see if we can get advantageous match ups. I like the flexibility we have had with Jackson in the middle and think that with Weid will have similar flexibility but it will be different because of the different mix of skill sets.

Sparrow in for Melksham for me. nothing wrong with Melk but I just think Sparrow will bring more pressure to the contest then what Melksham does. I also think that with Fritsch we have a better version of Melksham. I am one that looks at the possible midfield rotations in a team and like to see more rather than less.

[Demons11 7,011]

17 minutes ago, Turner said:

 

based on what? unless he's done an acl in the last two hours i'd say there is a chance he could be picked. we should feel comfortable enough in our system and form that if players warrant selection we can reward them and if players get complacent in the side we can put them on notice

Based on that he has done nothing at VFL level to suggest he is ready for the AFL.  Hunts speed and pressure bring so much more to the team than what Bowey can. 

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Don't kid yourselves, LJ is a big out.  He offers us versatility that neither Maj or Weid have on the ground, in the ruck (Weid) and up forward (Weid at ground level...Maj would rarely go there if played anyway imv and instead would likely play a major role in the ruck allowing Big M to play mostly forward to cover LJ).

Sure we probably aren't taking a huge step backwards as we have reasonable coverage coming in, at least in the next few weeks against lessor rated oppo.  But the sooner he gets back the better.

 

 

Edited May 12, 2021 by Rusty Nails