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23 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

FWIW I've already posted my preference in this thread:

  • May, Petty, Lever
  • Salem, Hibberd, Rivers, Smith

But Smith is unproven I agree

I can go with everyone but Smith. I'd play Melksham or Fritsch there.

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    2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Can't say BB.  All I can say is I wouldn't make it up, not even for a 'rumours' thread.  Not my style.

    I wouldn't be surprised if players felt that at every club. It happens in every sporting club, professional or local, and every work place.

    The real issue is why is it happening?

    Some players will get more leniency because they have runs on the board.  Because they have a bigger upside. Because they add secondary value (eg leadership, or decoy) as well as their main role. Others will underperform in obvious measures (eg disposals) but out perform others in team measures (eg position in a zone, effort, smothers). Some might seemingly compete for a position but actually be playing different roles.

    Some players respond well to harsh treatment (eg get a rocket if they are yelled at or dropped). Others need a hug and a show of faith to build or regain confidence. 

    It is why it's hard to coach young sides vs experienced sides. Once you are established, you know how to perform and motivate yourself. The coaches have known you for long enough that they know how to help if you need it. 

    So it is absolutely the coaches job to play favourites in order to maximise bothe the short term performance and the long term development of the team. That's what they are paid for, those are the hard, complex calls.

    This is why many people who aren't necessarily Goodwin supporters will still say they want to stay the course with him to see the outcome. I don't know if he is playing the right favourites game or not. I certainly disagree, or can't understand the reason behind some. But how could I? I've never met any of them, and don't know the basis for their decisions. 

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    14 minutes ago, A F said:

    I can go with everyone but Smith. I'd play Melksham or Fritsch there.

    Have we tried Smith in the medium HBF role? I know we've tried him as a tall and a small to imo limited success. I'm not sure he has the smarts to play the attacking HBF, but could he play a pure negating role on an opposition "feeder HFF" ie the players who win the ball and get it inside 50?

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    8 minutes ago, deanox said:

    Have we tried Smith in the medium HBF role? I know we've tried him as a tall and a small to imo limited success. I'm not sure he has the smarts to play the attacking HBF, but could he play a pure negating role on an opposition "feeder HFF" ie the players who win the ball and get it inside 50?

    The club may well try this, but I wouldn't. 

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    1 hour ago, Pollyanna said:

    Who are you playing at halfback in place of Salem? We're short of capable small-medium defenders as it is.

    Surely Rivers

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    1 minute ago, Kent said:

    Surely Rivers

    Gimme 7 backs not including Salem.  Agreed Rivers is one of them, but I think you'll find we need Salem there too.

    Edited by Pollyanna

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    1 hour ago, Pollyanna said:

    We need 7 for the rotation PSD and Lockhart was out of favour last year.

    Take your pick, Petty, Smith, Jetta( although the end is near) and Tmac is looking more likely to stay 

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    So Polly 

    You are saying we are short a couple of back men

    Why don't we address this preseason

    Lochardt should replace Nev

    We need back pocket and running halfback

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    57 minutes ago, Kent said:

    So Polly 

    You are saying we are short a couple of back men

    Why don't we address this preseason

    Lochardt should replace Nev

    We need back pocket and running halfback

     

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    20 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    This trade period is more turgid than the US election.

     Well played @chook fowler, not many footy forums can boast the linguistic magnificence of Demonland. 

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    21 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    This trade period is more turgid than the US election.

    Yes, but hopefully with the right result in the end in both cases. 

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    7 hours ago, adonski said:

    If we're throwing Harmes in the guts as we should, Brayshaw should be traded 

    Come On What GIF by MOODMAN

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    5 minutes ago, rpfc said:

    Come On What GIF by MOODMAN

    Brayshaw as our 5th mid would be a disaster. He would have 78% bench time. We'd be better off trading him.

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    Following the trade news early today via Zero Hanger  under player changes to date, two unknown demon players were to be transferred to the Adelaide Crows. There were no names , then later in the day the incident disappeared. Does anyone know if Brayshaw is going to get traded , surely we can't play him and Viney play in the one side.

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    9 minutes ago, COOLX said:

    Following the trade news early today via Zero Hanger  under player changes to date, two unknown demon players were to be transferred to the Adelaide Crows. There were no names , then later in the day the incident disappeared. Does anyone know if Brayshaw is going to get traded , surely we can't play him and Viney play in the one side.

     

    9 minutes ago, COOLX said:

    Following the trade news early today via Zero Hanger  under player changes to date, two unknown demon players were to be transferred to the Adelaide Crows. There were no names , then later in the day the incident disappeared. Does anyone know if Brayshaw is going to get traded , surely we can't play him and Viney play in the one side.

    Scott Thompson and Nathan Bassett?

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    33 minutes ago, COOLX said:

    Following the trade news early today via Zero Hanger  under player changes to date, two unknown demon players were to be transferred to the Adelaide Crows. There were no names , then later in the day the incident disappeared. Does anyone know if Brayshaw is going to get traded , surely we can't play him and Viney play in the one side.

    ANB has been linked to Crows a few weeks back, not sure who else might be a potential to head to Adelaide.

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    1 hour ago, COOLX said:

    Following the trade news early today via Zero Hanger  under player changes to date, two unknown demon players were to be transferred to the Adelaide Crows. There were no names , then later in the day the incident disappeared. Does anyone know if Brayshaw is going to get traded , surely we can't play him and Viney play in the one side.

    I'm going to go with ANB and one of the McDonald brothers.

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    1 minute ago, MadAsHell said:

    I'm going to go with ANB and one of the McDonald brothers.

    Hopefully Tom

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    Harmes and ANB are both South Aussies and the right age bracket for the crows

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    1 hour ago, COOLX said:

    Following the trade news early today via Zero Hanger  under player changes to date, two unknown demon players were to be transferred to the Adelaide Crows. There were no names , then later in the day the incident disappeared. Does anyone know if Brayshaw is going to get traded , surely we can't play him and Viney play in the one side.

    Why not ?

    That's what  the coaches are Paid for, to work out the positions and styles of games fir each player at your disposal.

    Jack needs to Cease trying to be a bulldozer all the time where he hold onto the call and gets caught holding. He also needs to look at kicking or handball ing on his right side and making his first option to move the hall to our outside runners.
    Jack should be able to play up forward on the ball and/or roam on the FP or HFFlank Putting pressure on the defenders with his strong tackling.

    Gus is good in close and also On the outside and is a good disposer when he can balance and launch a good left or right foot pass.

    He is not great at two way running ie defending from defence However letssee this year if New Coach Yze can influence our mids games and versitility.

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    3 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

    Harmes and ANB are both South Aussies and the right age bracket for the crows

    Harmes is from Devon Meadows, Vic. 

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    6 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

     

    Polly and Kent 

    yes Locky is the small replacement IMO and Rivers  our major running half back Or Salem snd Hibbo can do that also. ( I prefer Salem on wing or up forward to maximise his disposal and elite kicking skills.  Maybe Hunt or Smith are also able to be used for run and carry when given an opportunity Down back.

    Our defence still can be better but May Lever Tomlinson and Petty ( prefer up forward ) even Mitch  Brown if retained can Play the big role. Hire IMO is a Lever clone fir the intercepting duties!

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    8 hours ago, A F said:

    I can go with everyone but Smith. I'd play Melksham or Fritsch there.

    No AF Fritta must be chiefly a forward which is our Achilles heel.

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