Ed Pascoe’s Top 20 June update 

10 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Ed Pascoe’s Top 20 June update 

Now that we’ve gone past the MSD, it’s time to review my phantom 2021 draft and let’s make it the top 20:-

1. Jason Horne 184 cm 78 kg (South Adelaide, SA)

2. Nick Daicos 183 cm 74 kg (Oakleigh Chargers - Collingwood Father/Son) 

3. Matt Roberts 183 cm 81 kg (South Adelaide SA)

4. Josh Rachele 180 cm 78 kg (Murray Bushrangers) 

5. Tyler Sonsie 181 cm 76 (Eastern Ranges) 

6. Arlo Draper 185 cm 71 kg (South Adelaide SA) 

7. Matt Johnson 191 cm 80 kg (Subiaco WA) 

8. Campbell Chesser 186 cm 83 kg (Sandringham Dragons)

9. Josh Sinn 186 cm 72 kg (Sandringham Dragons) 

10. Jacob Van Rooyen 194 cm 88 kg (Claremont, WA) 

11. Finn Callahan 189 cm 82 kg (Sandringham Dragons) 

12. Josh Fahey 186 cm 78 kg (GWS Academy) 

13. Ben Hobbs 183 cm 80 kg (GWV Rebels) 

14. Josh Gibcus 195 cm 84 kg (GWV Rebels)

15. Sam Darcy 200 cm 75 kg (Oakleigh Chargers) 

16. Ned Long 192 cm 88 kg (Northern Knights)

17. Darcy Wilmot 182 cm 70 kg (Northern Knights) 

18. Jack Williams 195 cm 91 kg (East Fremantle, WA) 

19. Josh Goater 190 cm 79 kg (Calder Cannons) 

20. Neil Erasmus 188 cm 80 kg (Subiaco, WA)

Bit of a blurb from the Draft Central draft power rankings 1st edition

#21 Mac Andrew (MEL NGA)

Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country | Ruck/Tall Utility

12/04/2003 | 200cm | 70kg

Snapshot: A raw tall prospect who has proven his worth in each post, Andrew’s vertical leap and fast-developing craft really catch the eye.

Another key position type who has rocketed up draft boards with a promising start to the year, Andrew will have Melbourne recruiters a little nervous with his performances to date. He sits just outside our current top 20 but has that kind of potential, with raw athleticism and bucketloads of upside given his ever-improving ability to be utilised at either end of the ground, or in the ruck. While he has proven his versatility, the Demons Next Generation Academy (NGA) talent looks most comfortable in the ruck, where his leap and clean follow-up work stands out.

Season so far:

Eyes quickly turned to Andrew after he collected 22 disposals, three marks and 11 hitouts on his NAB League debut, before going on to prove it was no fluke by impressing across another three outings. He found himself spending more time forward against the Sandringham Dragons in Round 4 and kicked a goal, but has some development left in his decision making and disposal by foot at times. He boasts clean hands and was better aerially than his averages of three marks and 14.5 hitouts suggest. The same could be said about his game for the AFL Academy, where Andrew was tried up either end before excelling in the ruck during term four, throwing his 200cm frame into each centre bounce with a phenomenal vertical leap

So who are we taking after we trade into the first round 

Nick Daicos leads Knightmare’s June power rankings 

AFL Draft - June's Power Rankings: Daicos pulling away from chasing pack

On 6/8/2021 at 11:56 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

Nick Daicos leads Knightmare’s June power rankings 

AFL Draft - June's Power Rankings: Daicos pulling away from chasing pack

There seems to be some rivalry brewing for #1 draft selection between Nick Daicos and Jason Horne ~ 

The race to be number one: What separates Daicos and Horne?

 

On the Road to the Draft podcast, Cal Twomey said he felt Mac Andrew was pretty likely to get bid on inside the top 20. 

Edited June 11, 20213 yr by Fat Tony

Is our current pick available  next year end of round 2 assuming we finish on top???

If we cant trade higher basically we wont be getting any significant talent

Who can we trade for picks?

47 minutes ago, Kent said:

Is our current pick available  next year end of round 2 assuming we finish on top???

If we cant trade higher basically we wont be getting any significant talent

Who can we trade for picks?

We can trade our future 1st as far as I'm aware, so we'd have to package up a 2nd rounder & future 1st if they have their heart set on moving well into this years 1st round 

 

Edited June 11, 20213 yr by adonski

8 hours ago, Kent said:

Is our current pick available  next year end of round 2 assuming we finish on top???

If we cant trade higher basically we wont be getting any significant talent

Who can we trade for picks?

We have someone’s second round pick I think. 

3 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

We have someone’s second round pick I think. 

According to this we have Brisbane's second round pick and Hawthorn's third round pick.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.afl.com.au/news/603145/indicative-draft-order-check-out-your-clubs-picks/amp

8 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

On the Road to the Draft podcast, Cal Twomey said he felt Mac Andrew was pretty likely to get bid on inside the top 20. 

Haven't seen the kid live but what I've seen in clips suggests he has lots of potential but would be a risky pickup esp if clubs are looking at him as a top 20 pick.  Other than teams with multiple picks in the top 20, I can't see clubs putting all their eggs in that basket.

I reckon the likes of Twomey say these sorts of things to get some clicks etc and we fall for it every time.  Other than Grundy and Jackson, I can't think of many ruckmen that have gone in the top 20 in recent times.  Surely Andrew would have to have a massive 2nd half of the year to make the top 20 as he looks as if he'll need a few years to put on some size before playing in the big league?

2 hours ago, deelusions from afar said:

I reckon the likes of Twomey say these sorts of things to get some clicks etc and we fall for it every time.  Other than Grundy and Jackson, I can't think of many ruckmen that have gone in the top 20 in recent times.  Surely Andrew would have to have a massive 2nd half of the year to make the top 20 as he looks as if he'll need a few years to put on some size before playing in the big league?

English as well.

7 minutes ago, Chelly said:

Ease up Cal, that's not helping at all

The South Australian Under 17 squad for the national championships was named today. That would not normally be a big deal even around here but for one name. See if you can find him.

SA state under 17 final squad of 30

Harry Barnett

Shaun Bennier

Max Blacker

Hunter Carter

Koby Cockshell

Tyson Coe

Adam D'Aloia

Jack Delean *

Blake Hansen

Isaac Keeler

Harry Lemmey

Jaiden Magor

Kyle Marshall

Austin McDonald

Max Michalanney

Will Patton *

Mattaes Phillipou

Taj Rahui

Jakob Ryan

Kobe Ryan

Kelsey Rypstra

Nick Sadler

Tom Scully

Luca Slade *

Oscar Talbot *

Jedd Thomson *

Brodie Tuck

Will Verrall

Tyson Walls

Tom Wheaton *

* Under 16

$cully?

Kobe Cockshell? Who I believe is related to Kyle Condom.

Edited June 23, 20213 yr by ManDee

The trials were held at the weekend ahead of the Australian Under 19 Championships (which may or may not take place over the next month or so).

Scouting Notes | 2021 Victorian Under 19 trials

As reported elsewhere, Melbourne’s NGA prospect Mac Andrew from the Dandenong Stingrays missed out on a chance to represent Vic Country at the trials due to a concussion incurred in the recent NAB League Boys game against the Bendigo Pioneers. 

Bulldogs Father/son prospect rocketed into contention as a top three draft selection with six goals.

 

Cal Twomey has Mac Andrew as the 12th best prospect in the national draft …

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Best draft prospects ranked

Mac Andrew

Ruckman

200cm/70kg

12/4/03

Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country

It was Andrew's start to the season that caught the eye of scouts, with the Dandenong Stingrays big man putting in some exciting performances as an athletic ruckman who can also follow up at ground level. He blitzed the opening game of the season with 22 disposals, six clearances and 11 hitouts against Gippsland and continued in the same vein to be selected for the NAB AFL Academy's VFL clash. Concussion ruled him out in recent weeks. Andrew, who was born in Egypt and whose parents are South Sudanese, is tied to Melbourne's Next Generation Academy but the Dees won't get to match a bid if it comes inside the first 20 picks. 

I think we need to stop posting about Mac Andrew. We aren't getting him. So let's stop the torture.

48 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

I think we need to stop posting about Mac Andrew. We aren't getting him. So let's stop the torture.

You're still going far too early on this Dr. D. The draft is 5 months away.

For reference, in Cals 2020 September form update he had Errol guldon at 15, Jack Carrol at 18 and Zane Trew at 21. They ended up at 32, 41 and 12 in the rookie draft respectively.

In his December update just a few weeks from the draft, he had Zavier Maher at 25, he missed out completely.

You would think that at his current weight Andrew would be a minimum of a couple of years off AFL standard and clubs picking top 20 players generally expect them to be playing by late in their first season, or at least in their second.

Also a lot of clubs have several talls and may be looking at different types of players with their top pick. 

Edited June 30, 20213 yr by Redleg

9 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

Cal Twomey has Mac Andrew as the 12th best prospect in the national draft …

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Best draft prospects ranked

Mac Andrew

Ruckman

200cm/70kg

12/4/03

Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country

It was Andrew's start to the season that caught the eye of scouts, with the Dandenong Stingrays big man putting in some exciting performances as an athletic ruckman who can also follow up at ground level. He blitzed the opening game of the season with 22 disposals, six clearances and 11 hitouts against Gippsland and continued in the same vein to be selected for the NAB AFL Academy's VFL clash. Concussion ruled him out in recent weeks. Andrew, who was born in Egypt and whose parents are South Sudanese, is tied to Melbourne's Next Generation Academy but the Dees won't get to match a bid if it comes inside the first 20 picks. 

Strange one this ... the less he plays, the better he gets.

Looking like it's time to go down the 'Jack Darling' path