The Protected Species

[dieter 3,325]

Good to see Tom Lynch up to his usual tricks. He might be a tiger these days, however, he sure knows a thing or two about spots.

Will he get away with his latest assault? Silly question, Dieter, Fait accompli, the answer is, What's the problem? Damian Hardwick says its okay, as does Mike Christian. 

[loges 6,271]

Lynch and Cotchin, definitely have become snipers.

[don cordner4 55]

YUP great example for kids, love to watch the local kids now, seeing young players shove there knees into other kids necks.. yeah that's fine isn't it AFL, while players get suspended for bumps in play

Edited October 10, 2020 by don cordner4

[sue 8,479]

2 minutes ago, don cordner4 said:

YUP great example for kids, love to watch the local kids now, seeing young players shove there knees into other kids necks.. yeah that's fine isn't it AFL, while players get suspended for bumps in play

But in the AFL fantasy land, it is the outcome that counts.  So if Lynch had slipped as he did that and crushed the Saint's neck he might just get a penalty - then again, big name player + finals = no bloody chance.

[Clintosaurus 6,729]

Richmond are big $$$$ generators for HQ. Nothing else needs mentioning.

[whatwhat say what 19,847]

lynch has always been a bit of a [censored]

cotchin is the cleanest dirty player seen in decades since hawks were at their unsociable best

Edited October 10, 2020 by whatwhatsaywhat

[Little Goffy 12,810]

Does anyone have a clip handy of the Cotchin sling-tackle-with-spear-action that can be played next to the Neal-Bullen 4-week suspension tackle?

Seriously, we're tackling people by the ears now?

Edited October 10, 2020 by Little Goffy

[Sir Why You Little 35,073]

Cotchin is a true Sniper. The new Velvet Sledgehammer 

Lynch is just a bully who will cop it....

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 hour ago, loges said:

Lynch and Cotchin, definitely have become snipers.

Cotchin really annoys me these days.  Didn't mind him at all as a player, and he is a terrific one at that, but he has become a bit a sniper in recent years and his tackle last night was a shocker.

No doubt he just cops a fine, when a week is what should happen, but he does this more often than he used to.

[BDA 20,744]

Its finals time. There’ll be no suspension nor should there be. Yes Lynch is petulant and stupid but there was no real force. If it was a dees player I doubt too many of us would be calling for a suspension.

There’s no need for him to keep getting involved like this. I’m sure privately Hardwick won’t be happy with him at all. He’ll get his suspension in due course. Defenders will keep targeting him so it’s only a matter of time.

[Brownie 5,466]

46 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

Its finals time. There’ll be no suspension nor should there be. Yes Lynch is petulant and stupid but there was no real force. If it was a dees player I doubt too many of us would be calling for a suspension.

There’s no need for him to keep getting involved like this. I’m sure privately Hardwick won’t be happy with him at all. He’ll get his suspension in due course. Defenders will keep targeting him so it’s only a matter of time.

Yep you're spot on.

There does need to be some recognition of the fact he's done dog acts multiple times this season.

Yes, if it was a dees player we'd be defending them for a one off act. But if it was someone like May (who learnt from one suspension) who had done this 3 or 4 times in a season, we'd be calling him stupid and probably deserving of a suspension.

What message does Lynch’s and Cotchins action send when they just get away with it? What message does it send to kids?

I think the whole focus by the MRO being on how much damage was done is a mistake. If there's deliberate grub acts going on, they have to be rubbed out.

Unless it's one of the big clubs of course.

 

Edited October 10, 2020 by Brownie

[drdrake 3,057]

1 hour ago, don cordner4 said:

YUP great example for kids, love to watch the local kids now, seeing young players shove there knees into other kids necks.. yeah that's fine isn't it AFL, while players get suspended for bumps in play

Earlier in the year after the Suns v Richmond game, Hardwick in his press conference defended his player/team, the comment was along the lines off, the best teams play on the edge and often cross it that is what it takes to be a good side.

Was thinking great I have 10 kids in my junior side that follow Richmond and they will go out and belt kids now.

 

The arrogance of Richmond is really getting off the charts.  They have every right but being humble in victory earns you a lot of respect.  That is what example we want to set.

[dieter 3,325]

1 hour ago, Better days ahead said:

Its finals time. There’ll be no suspension nor should there be. Yes Lynch is petulant and stupid but there was no real force. If it was a dees player I doubt too many of us would be calling for a suspension.

There’s no need for him to keep getting involved like this. I’m sure privately Hardwick won’t be happy with him at all. He’ll get his suspension in due course. Defenders will keep targeting him so it’s only a matter of time.

I don't understand the concept:' Its finals time. There’ll be no suspension nor should there be.'

So, because it's a final, anything goes. That is codswallop bean curd crapola.

 

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38 minutes ago, dieter said:

I don't understand the concept:' Its finals time. There’ll be no suspension nor should there be.'

So, because it's a final, anything goes. That is codswallop bean curd crapola.

 

I didn’t say anything goes mate. Don’t misrepresent what I said. He didn’t take the guy’s head now did he?

I don’t want to see players get rubbed out in a final for what Lynch did last night. As long as there’s consistency. And before you prattle on about Richmond getting preferential treatment I can’t recall any instance in the last 25 years where a so called smaller club has had a player rubbed out for something similar.

Edited October 10, 2020 by Better days ahead

[dieter 3,325]

32 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

I didn’t say anything goes mate. Don’t misrepresent what I said. He didn’t take the guy’s head now did he?

I don’t want to see players get rubbed out in a final for what Lynch did last night. As long as there’s consistency. And before you prattle on about Richmond getting preferential treatment I can’t recall any instance in the last 25 years where a so called smaller club has had a player rubbed out for something similar.

Mate, mate, you don't get it do you? I don't understand why you should  get away with idiotic brutality - Lynch is a repeat offender - just because it's a freakin final. If I understand you correctly, mate, you're saying that kids when they watch football will understand it's not alright to kneel on someone's neck in a home and away round, but it becomes okay to do it, cos, well it's a Final.

[DubDee 21,452]

What about Lynch ‘accidentally’ sitting on the blokes head before he knees him in the neck. What a [censored]. He is clever though to do just less than what would get you suspended. 

[Little Goffy 12,810]

So, I wonder, do the top teams 'play on the edge' as a secret to their success, or is it more that top teams are given a soft ride by umpires and match review panel so they end up getting dirtier because they know they'll get away with it?

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51 minutes ago, dieter said:

Mate, mate, you don't get it do you? I don't understand why you should  get away with idiotic brutality - Lynch is a repeat offender - just because it's a freakin final. If I understand you correctly, mate, you're saying that kids when they watch football will understand it's not alright to kneel on someone's neck in a home and away round, but it becomes okay to do it, cos, well it's a Final.

Idiotic yes.

Brutal. Spare me.

I’m delighted someone is thinking of the kids.

I’m no fan of Lynch but as I’ve said I don’t think he should be rubbed out. The norm, whether you agree or disagree, is that these incidents do not result in a suspension in a final. I happen to agree and so does the general AFL community.

If attitudes shift and the commission decide it’s no longer acceptable to let these incidents go then so be it. Just be consistent and apply fairly to everyone but it will be a brave MRP panel that hands down that first suspension.

[sue 8,479]

15 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

Idiotic yes.

Brutal. Spare me.

I’m delighted someone is thinking of the kids.

I’m no fan of Lynch but as I’ve said I don’t think he should be rubbed out. The norm, whether you agree or disagree, is that these incidents do not result in a suspension in a final. I happen to agree and so does the general AFL community.

If attitudes shift and the commission decide it’s no longer acceptable to let these incidents go then so be it. Just be consistent and apply fairly to everyone but it will be a brave MRP panel that hands down that first suspension.

The problem is that his soft knee to the neck in itself is not suspendible by the standards the AFL sets but the AFL does nothing to rub it out.  Also he gets off on other infractions which lesser lights spend time in the stands for and is a serial offender but the 'crimes' do not add up to anything, whereas a single vigorous tackle (with no ill intent but with the oppo trying to kick the ball instead of protecting himself) gets you rubbed out for 4 weeks. 

So what does the AFL need to do to stamp out that sort of behaviour?     A few 50m or 100m penalties might get the Hardwicks of this world to stop players acting like Lynch rather than praising them.   Or maybe the tribunal can do some accumulating of misdeeds and if a player gets too many naughty points, he's rubbed out for a week. 

Edited October 10, 2020 by sue

[BDA 20,744]

1 hour ago, sue said:

So what does the AFL need to do to stamp out that sort of behaviour?     A few 50m or 100m penalties might get the Hardwicks of this world to stop players acting like Lynch rather than praising them.   Or maybe the tribunal can do some accumulating of misdeeds and if a player gets too many naughty points, he's rubbed out for a week. 

Fair points.

I think the best way to deal with these incidents is in game if possible. Why can't an official in the stands review and hand out a sanction. Why not make Lynch sit on the pine for a spell, a quarter perhaps. That would penalise the player and his team during the game and advantage the team he has infringed against. It’s done in other sports so why not AFL?

[loges 6,271]

4 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Cotchin really annoys me these days.  Didn't mind him at all as a player, and he is a terrific one at that, but he has become a bit a sniper in recent years and his tackle last night was a shocker.

No doubt he just cops a fine, when a week is what should happen, but he does this more often than he used to.

Definitely a similar tackle the week before against Brisbane

[Biffen 12,441]

As we talking geek umpires who need re-education programs?

[dieter 3,325]

6 minutes ago, Biffen said:

As we talking geek umpires who need re-education programs?

Good point. Many of these 'indiscretions' are in full view of Umpires.

[goodwindees 2,129]

I was sure this was going to be a thread about Melksham. 

[sue 8,479]

$750 fine.  Wow that will really discourage him and his $%# coach from continuing to snipe.  A football penalty is the only thing these guys understand.