Crows Attempting to Poach Darren Burgess

[Diamond_Jim 12,360]

9 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Just saw this. I’m suspect on that 3 year part. 

Surely if there is 2 years remaining on his contract he can’t just leave without breaching his contract. 

Interesting if there is a 3 year clause given that the money in Europe if someone offered him a deal would be much higher.

FWIW I suspect anyone if they wanted to could have walked away from an AFL contract in 2020 as the requirement to work in an interstate hub was outside the terms of the contract.

For 2021 it could be different. Of course contracts for personal services are rarely enforced other than toplace the departee on gardening leave. That might not be good for MFC as we could have to pay both him and his replacement.

Might be able to sue the Crows for inducing a breach of contract but who knows.

The recent situation with Messi and Barcelona is fascinating.

[Brownie 5,870]

20 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Get onto it Bartlett. We need Burgess for at least another 2-3 years 

I am so sick of this Club losing Staff early

Awww C'mon, we did so well locking Goody in! ?

 

[Adam The God 29,417]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Just saw this. I’m suspect on that 3 year part. 

Surely if there is 2 years remaining on his contract he can’t just leave without breaching his contract. 

Who says he will leave?

[Lucifers Hero 38,985]

I'm also circumspect on the 3 years. 

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In the article on club website, by Ben Gibson it says:  "Melbourne has secured the services of Darren Burgess for season 2020" and he repeats it in the body of the article.  That looks like one year to me.

He has broken contracts before; he left Port early to join Arsenal.

Isn't Burgess originally from rom SA?  Could be just a fishing expedition by Adelaide; has there been any other report/confirmation of Crows' interest?

Edited October 1, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

[Grimes Times 1,278]

17 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I'm also circumspect on the 3 years. 

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In the article on club website, by Ben Gibson it says:  "Melbourne has secured the services of Darren Burgess for season 2020" and he repeats it in the body of the article.  That looks like one year to me.

He has broken contracts before; he left Port early to join Arsenal.

Isn't Burgess originally from rom SA?  Could be just a fishing expedition by Adelaide; has there been any other report/confirmation of Crows' interest?

I think hes originally from Sydney.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

51 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Isn't Burgess originally from rom SA?  Could be just a fishing expedition by Adelaide; has there been any other report/confirmation of Crows' interest?

 

31 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

I think hes originally from Sydney.

I believe he and his family think of SA as 'home'. It's where his family are heading now for the break, hopefully not any longer.

[Demon17 5,084]

2 hours ago, A F said:

Who says he will leave?

Kane cornes rates him less highly than others in the league. Andrew russell at the blues for example. 

Not a wrist slashing event possibly?

[Adam The God 29,417]

23 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Kane cornes rates him less highly than others in the league. Andrew russell at the blues for example. 

Not a wrist slashing event possibly?

Interesting. That said Cornes is not the most trustworthy commentator.

[Demonland 70,312]

2 hours ago, A F said:

Who says he will leave?

I’m not saying that.

OP mentions report that Adelaide are into him. Initial signing reports only mention 2020. Tom Morris report today mentions contacted to Dees for 3 years. Something isn’t adding up.  

[whatwhat say what 22,196]

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I’m not saying that.

OP mentions report that Adelaide are into him. Initial signing reports only mention 2020. Tom Morris report today mentions contacted to Dees for 3 years. Something isn’t adding up.  

pretty sure report was amended to make it clear burgess was on a one-year deal

[Dr. Gonzo 23,723]

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

Just saw this. I’m suspect on that 3 year part. 

Surely if there is 2 years remaining on his contract he can’t just leave without breaching his contract. 

And why is this the first we've heard of it? Maybe someone from the club feeding Morris BS to make him look stupid? He doesn't have a good relationship with us from memory

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

Hopefully Rucci is just doing his usual muckraking for the Crows.

Here's a similar story from 2012 that didn't eventuate:

Adelaide Crows move to steal fitness coach Darren Burgess from under Port Adelaide's nose

[whatwhat say what 22,196]

2 minutes ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

Hopefully Rucci is just doing his usual muckraking for the Crows.

Here's a similar story from 2012 that didn't eventuate:

Adelaide Crows move to steal fitness coach Darren Burgess from under Port Adelaide's nose

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[roy11 3,689]

Thought it was an interesting like 

[whatwhat say what 22,196]

burgess seems totally invested in the club and the players based on the footage we have seen of him involved with the club - such as is in the video series about the pre-season (take 1, not take 2)

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His kids are in Adelaide with his ex wife so I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t go to Adelaide  

[nosoupforme 3,085]

2 hours ago, JCC said:

His kids are in Adelaide with his ex wife so I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t go to Adelaide  

He does go to Adelaide to see his kids when he can. Lockdown is not helping now.

However he certainly doesn't have any intentions to see his ex wife. That could be worse than Covid 19..

[dazzledavey36 52,884]

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/video/report-the-adelaide-crows-are-eying-off-top-fitness-guru/?amp&__twitter_impression=true

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Love Burgo, but tbh he has seemed to flip flop a little bit. We nearly lost him to a European soccer team after signing him, and as recent as 6-8 weeks ago he seemed very very likely to stay but is now almost certainly gone.

In fairness, this time around it's not purely a financial decision apparently.

Big loss, but feels like the club has a new sense of how important this role is and will chase top quality.

[Lucifers Hero 38,985]

24 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/video/report-the-adelaide-crows-are-eying-off-top-fitness-guru/?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Thanks.  Thought these comments were interesting:

"...Unless you can somehow get Melbourne to release him and Adelaide to pay him really good money I don’t think it would happen, but hey, stranger things have happened in sport...I did hear a whisper that he’s managed by Rob Snowdon who also manages one Crows coach… he’d be a good get".

And:

“Melbourne won a bidding war to get Alan Richardson and he was on very good coin, so when you take 30 per cent off the soft cap you wonder whether that might need to be massaged.”

Would much rather lose Richardson than Burgess.

I really hope the club makes decisions on who is the best person for a position rather than who is under contract that we need to 'find a job for'.

The AFL has given clubs the chance to pay out FD contracts with no impact on soft cap.  I hope the club takes that opportunity to create a top 4 FD team. 

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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Thanks.  Thought these comments were interesting:

"...Unless you can somehow get Melbourne to release him and Adelaide to pay him really good money I don’t think it would happen, but hey, stranger things have happened in sport...I did hear a whisper that he’s managed by Rob Snowdon who also manages one Crows coach… he’d be a good get".

And:

“Melbourne won a bidding war to get Alan Richardson and he was on very good coin, so when you take 30 per cent off the soft cap you wonder whether that might need to be massaged.”

Would much rather lose Richardson than Burgess.

I really hope the club makes decisions on who is the best person for a position rather than who is under contract that we need to 'find a job for'.

The AFL has given clubs the chance to pay out FD contracts with no impact on soft cap.  I hope the club takes that opportunity to create a top 4 FD team. 

Amen to that.

[deanox 9,665]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Thanks.  Thought these comments were interesting:

"...Unless you can somehow get Melbourne to release him and Adelaide to pay him really good money I don’t think it would happen, but hey, stranger things have happened in sport...I did hear a whisper that he’s managed by Rob Snowdon who also manages one Crows coach… he’d be a good get".

And:

“Melbourne won a bidding war to get Alan Richardson and he was on very good coin, so when you take 30 per cent off the soft cap you wonder whether that might need to be massaged.”

Would much rather lose Richardson than Burgess.

I really hope the club makes decisions on who is the best person for a position rather than who is under contract that we need to 'find a job for'.

The AFL has given clubs the chance to pay out FD contracts with no impact on soft cap.  I hope the club takes that opportunity to create a top 4 FD team. 

I am wondering if this is why there are rumpurs of Mahoney out, Richardson into GM Football. But concerned that Richardson might not actually be the right guy for that role.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,584]

12 minutes ago, deanox said:

I am wondering if this is why there are rumpurs of Mahoney out, Richardson into GM Football. But concerned that Richardson might not actually be the right guy for that role.

Richardson would have a more broader knowledge of the roIe due to what he has seen and experienced with other clubs eg. Pies, Port, St.K and Dees.

I would like to see this come to fruition as it would rid us of the last piece of Administration that has lurked around the club for far too long.

 

[Demonland 70,312]

3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

“Melbourne won a bidding war to get Alan Richardson and he was on very good coin, so when you take 30 per cent off the soft cap you wonder whether that might need to be massaged.”

Would much rather lose Richardson than Burgess.

[Demonland 70,312]

26 minutes ago, deanox said:

I am wondering if this is why there are rumpurs of Mahoney out, Richardson into GM Football. But concerned that Richardson might not actually be the right guy for that role.

There will probably be a thread about that.