3 hours ago, grazman said:

Agree.  Carlton have offered a bucket load of cash to Saad and Williams, both are reasonable players, but Clarrie would want at least double what they are going to get which would blow their TPP out of the water. 

don't think tpp has ever bothered cartscum before :)

The Cripps rumour is crap and has been (as others have said) Chinese whispers gone mad.

The same happens every year and yet every year most of you go into meltdown 

I hope we've put a 5 year extension in front of Oliver. If we haven't, we're asleep at the wheel.

4 hours ago, A F said:

I hope we've put a 5 year extension in front of Oliver. If we haven't, we're asleep at the wheel.

Imo Clary, Trac, Gus need to follow Viney and sign long term

5 hours ago, A F said:

I hope we've put a 5 year extension in front of Oliver. If we haven't, we're asleep at the wheel.

Of late, the club has tried to sign up key players a long way out from contract expiration so maybe talks are in progress or will start once the sal cap is known. 

Oliver has a big decision to make.  He either signs for an extra 2 years to his FA year when his options are open. 

Or, he signs a mega 5-6 year extension that takes him to the latter stages of his career and then becomes a demon for life ?.  I suspect this is what the club would want.

If he follows Petracca, Brayshaw and many other AFL 'young guns he will sign for two years.  There is no reason for these guys to sign up beyong their FA year.

Of course, he could put off contract negotiations but that would surprise.

1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Of late, the club has tried to sign up key players a long way out from contract expiration so maybe talks are in progress or will start once the sal cap is known. 

Oliver has a big decision to make.  He either signs for an extra 2 years to his FA year when his options are open. 

Or, he signs a mega 5-6 year extension that takes him to the latter stages of his career and then becomes a demon for life ?.  I suspect this is what the club would want.

If he follows Petracca, Brayshaw and many other AFL 'young guns he will sign for two years.  There is no reason for these guys to sign up beyong their FA year.

Of course, he could put off contract negotiations but that would surprise.

Glad someone talks sense around here.

14 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Of late, the club has tried to sign up key players a long way out from contract expiration so maybe talks are in progress or will start once the sal cap is known. 

Oliver has a big decision to make.  He either signs for an extra 2 years to his FA year when his options are open. 

Or, he signs a mega 5-6 year extension that takes him to the latter stages of his career and then becomes a demon for life ?.  I suspect this is what the club would want.

If he follows Petracca, Brayshaw and many other AFL 'young guns he will sign for two years.  There is no reason for these guys to sign up beyong their FA year.

Of course, he could put off contract negotiations but that would surprise.

Excellent and realistic post LH

2 hours ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Imo Clary, Trac, Gus need to follow Viney and sign long term

Isn’t Gus already on a long-term deal ?

Edited October 6, 20204 yr by Demons11

28 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Isn’t Gus already on a long-term deal ?

He signed a 4 year contract in 2018.  Expires 2022.

12 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

He signed a 4 year contract in 2018.  Expires 2022.

?

7 hours ago, A F said:

I hope we've put a 5 year extension in front of Oliver. If we haven't, we're asleep at the wheel.

The club has been pretty good in recent years in getting contract extensions done.  We've lost the odd player here and there, but they've never been crucial to our side going forward.  All of our key players have signed either short or long term deals and you would expect the same thing to happen with Oliver, whether that be 5 years or something shorter, which we've also done in the past as well.

I think we're jumping at shadows a little with Oliver, though.  Sure, he might be disappointed in his finish in the best and fairest, and may be disappointed with our season overall, but I don't see that as a reason to jump ship to someone else.  He doesn't strike me as that type of person.  

I'm pretty confident he'll be a Demon for life... but then I never thought Jeff Farmer would leave all those years ago, so what the hell would I know?

I think we need some clarriefication. 

36 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I think we need some clarriefication. 

You're looking gorgeous in your profile pic, ET.

Absolutely no way Oliver goes to Carlton next year. 

Essendon will want Carlton's next 10 first round draft picks for Saad, so what can Carlton offer us? Cripps, McKay?

Lucky Oliver's contracted.

56 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Absolutely no way Oliver goes to Carlton next year. 

Essendon will want Carlton's next 10 first round draft picks for Saad, so what can Carlton offer us? Cripps, McKay?

Lucky Oliver's contracted.

No luck needed,  not even purple has heard about this it is total fake news, miscommunication, it has as much substance as the petracca rumours last year that he was unhappy. End thread now or suspend until at least 1 other journo says it.

This rumour is whipping Carlton nuffies into a frenzy. A popular theory - as relayed to me by my own Carlton nuffy mate - is they’ll flip pick 7 into 2x late first round picks (with WB), swapping one for Saad and one for Oliver. I suggested that appeared a bit unfair and they should ask for Petracca as steak knives.

Edited October 7, 20204 yr by The Jackson 6

For as long as Oliver is contracted, Melbourne will not let him go. End of story.

We have to play well as a team next year to make sure he re-signs. It is not rocket science that A grade players, want to play for A grade teams and play finals, not play for a mediocre nothing club. 

The rumors are probably true. Clayton being an immature 23 yr old probably wasn't happy where he finished in bnf and I'm sure Carlton are sniffing around. Does that mean he's going anywhere? doubt it. Nor do I want that to be the case like everyone else.

But the rumor mill always strikes interesting discussions. Always fun exploring a different narrative for this team. Like what could we get for Oliver? Surely quite a bit considering his consistency and that there's still more to develop. 

Could we potentially form a good, perhaps more balanced midfield without him? Petracca, Viney, Brayshaw, Harmes have all shown they can play together at the highest level with the latter two obviously needing to find their way back. Maybe being back in the middle more is the answer. We have some depth with the developing Sparrow/Jordan and possibly even Rivers/Kozzy down the line. There's the Luke Jackson factor with his ability at stoppages. A handful of guys to pinch hit in the midfield like AVB. Is that enough? Probably not but with another solid midfielder in the mix it via trade or free agent it could be interesting.

I would hope the football department would be looking at every angle and avenue to improve this team. Sometimes a pivot is whats needed as we've seen from other clubs in the past. I would be highly pessimistic of course of a trade for Oliver right now.

10 minutes ago, Yung Blood said:

The rumors are probably true. Clayton being an immature 23 yr old probably wasn't happy where he finished in bnf and I'm sure Carlton are sniffing around. Does that mean he's going anywhere? doubt it. Nor do I want that to be the case like everyone else.

But the rumor mill always strikes interesting discussions. Always fun exploring a different narrative for this team. Like what could we get for Oliver? Surely quite a bit considering his consistency and that there's still more to develop. 

Could we potentially form a good, perhaps more balanced midfield without him? Petracca, Viney, Brayshaw, Harmes have all shown they can play together at the highest level with the latter two obviously needing to find their way back. Maybe being back in the middle more is the answer. We have some depth with the developing Sparrow/Jordan and possibly even Rivers/Kozzy down the line. There's the Luke Jackson factor with his ability at stoppages. A handful of guys to pinch hit in the midfield like AVB. Is that enough? Probably not but with another solid midfielder in the mix it via trade or free agent it could be interesting.

I would hope the football department would be looking at every angle and avenue to improve this team. Sometimes a pivot is whats needed as we've seen from other clubs in the past. I would be highly pessimistic of course of a trade for Oliver right now.

You have to factor in where Oliver could get to with top line coaching. 

1 hour ago, The Jackson 6 said:

This rumour is whipping Carlton nuffies into a frenzy. A popular theory - as relayed to me by my own Carlton nuffy mate - is they’ll flip pick 7 into 2x late first round picks (with WB), swapping one for Saad and one for Oliver. I suggested that appeared a bit unfair and they should ask for Petracca as steak knives.

They have offered two 1st rounders but Melb not interested. 

4 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

You have to factor in where Oliver could get to with top line coaching. 

He is already top 5 midfielders in the comp and arguably our best player of the last 30 years. Coaching isnt holding him back.

17 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

They have offered two 1st rounders but Melb not interested. 

Yep, Bigfooty nuffies reporting this years first and next years first for Oliver and a second rounder (just a Cartlon supporters suggestion though I believe).

Edited October 7, 20204 yr by Ethan Tremblay

12 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Yep, Bigfooty nuffies reporting this years first and next years first for Oliver and a second rounder (just a Carlton supporters suggestion though). 

Nuffies is being a little too kind, ET.

4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Nuffies is being a little too kind, ET.

Agreed. It's where the Cripps rumour started as well. Someone suggested that a player from a 'Big' Victorian club is going to request a trade to WA. Another poster then posted an article about Cripps' partner and her mental health issues. The nuffies then all agreed that the evidence was overwhelming and settled on the player returning to WA was indeed Cripps.

Edited October 7, 20204 yr by Ethan Tremblay

13 hours ago, A F said:

I hope we've put a 5 year extension in front of Oliver. If we haven't, we're asleep at the wheel.

BANG!