CHANGES: Rd 18 vs Essendon

[Kent 2,914]

11 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Jacko and Hibbo in. 
 

Jetta (inj) and Brown out

Why would you drop Brown?

more than serviceable and solid defensively

[Ham 741]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

Why would you drop Brown?

more than serviceable and solid defensively

Because the team looked significantly better with Weid and LJ in the forward line.
Someone has to go, Brown is the other tall, he's the one to go.

[Demons11 7,051]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

Why would you drop Brown?

more than serviceable and solid defensively

Yeah I agree and he is unlucky but I think Jacko provides more both in the ruck and around the ground.  I think it showed a few weeks ago that 3 talls don’t work. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,588]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

Why would you drop Brown?

more than serviceable and solid defensively

Agree. Brown did a very good job. At the ground you could see he was getting to contests and presenting. He’s not slow like Tmac. Jackson is not quite ready and 5 weeks away without match fitness wouldn’t help.  Brown would like to show the bombers that he is still AFL standard.  

[binman 43,755]

20 hours ago, Coq au vin said:

The team plays zone defence where they guard a patch of grass. Ridiculous! 

That's quite funny. 

Coq au vin was all the rage in 70s in the suburban Melbourne of my childhood. The ultimate in hawt cuisine.

Seems like that's where you might be stuck - 12 teams all in Vic, man on man, kick the bloody ball and the only zones the new fangled  travel cards used to to get the train and buses to far flung, exoctic places like Windy Hill, Waverly and Morrabin.

Maybe your next name change could be Three Cheese Fondue or Chicken Chow Mein 

[Kent 2,914]

35 minutes ago, Ham said:

Because the team looked significantly better with Weid and LJ in the forward line.
Someone has to go, Brown is the other tall, he's the one to go.

LJ hasn't played a game for 5 weeks

Hi risk strategy in my opinion. On exposed form you would keep Brown before any of the others including Wied who looks completely lost and unproductive.Cant mark Cant compete He looks lost and with zero confidence

[Ham 741]

1 minute ago, Kent said:

LJ hasn't played a game for 5 weeks

Hi risk strategy in my opinion. On exposed form you would keep Brown before any of the others including Wied who looks completely lost and unproductive.Cant mark Cant compete He looks lost and with zero confidence

I'd much rather LJ in over Brown, even after not playing for 5 weeks.
If Burgo says he's good to go and can play, then he's good to go and can play.

[Superunknown 4,223]

28 minutes ago, Ham said:

I'd much rather LJ in over Brown, even after not playing for 5 weeks.
If Burgo says he's good to go and can play, then he's good to go and can play.

What about Brown and LJ. Is Weid offering more than Brown, or is it fair to say LJ probably a better bet than current-form-Weid?

[Ham 741]

19 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

What about Brown and LJ. Is Weid offering more than Brown, or is it fair to say LJ probably a better bet than current-form-Weid?

Would much prefer Weid.

Brown is not the future and I would not want to waste anymore time on him to be honest.
Should never have been put on our list and the quicker he is off, the more we can focus on creating cohesion between players who are going to be there for 3 years+

Instead of picking him up, I would have much preferred to see J. Smith play as a third tall/back up tall this season in the forward line.

Edited September 15, 2020 by Ham

[Kent 2,914]

8 minutes ago, Ham said:

Would much prefer Weid.

Brown is not the future and I would not want to waste anymore time on him to be honest.
Should never have been put on our list and the quicker he is off, the more we can focus on creating cohesion between players who are going to be there for 3 years+

Instead of picking him up, I would have much preferred to see J. Smith play as a third tall/back up tall this season in the forward line.

Hmm ok agree to disagree. LJ not ready Wied out of form T Mac COOKED 

WE HAVE FEW OPTIONS

WITH BROWN YOU GET A COMPETITOR AND HOPEFULLY A COUPLE OF GOALS

This game is not about the future Ham  its about picking a team that will win and win big on Friday ie not the future

[drdrake 3,187]

Depends on the fitness of Hibberd, if fit he comes in for Jetta.  Bennell for ANB but that won't happen more likely Sparrow for ANB or ANB will stay in.  Sparrow as it gives us a midfield option that isn't AVB or Melksham and Sparrow is OK as resting mid up forward.

Bennell doubt they would consider him

[DeePressed 114]

Interesting for the selectors.

Win by 50+ points and we would overtake a beaten St Kilda. 

Go too attacking and we can become unstuck.

Go too conservative and potentially miss out on %

If Saints win, just need to get the points and pray for Freo.

 

In: Jackson, Harmes

Out: ANB, Tomlinson

 

[Coq au vin 755]

1 hour ago, binman said:

That's quite funny. 

Coq au vin was all the rage in 70s in the suburban Melbourne of my childhood. The ultimate in hawt cuisine.

Seems like that's where you might be stuck - 12 teams all in Vic, man on man, kick the bloody ball and the only zones the new fangled  travel cards used to to get the train and buses to far flung, exoctic places like Windy Hill, Waverly and Morrabin.

Maybe your next name change could be Three Cheese Fondue or Chicken Chow Mein 

Maybe yours could be Play the man or troll. Or Garbage peddler.

[Ham 741]

25 minutes ago, Kent said:

Hmm ok agree to disagree. LJ not ready Wied out of form T Mac COOKED 

WE HAVE FEW OPTIONS

WITH BROWN YOU GET A COMPETITOR AND HOPEFULLY A COUPLE OF GOALS

This game is not about the future Ham  its about picking a team that will win and win big on Friday ie not the future

Could not disagree anymore.

How is LJ not ready? Just because you don't play a game in 5 weeks, doesn't automatically equate to you not being ready. He has clearly proven he is more than up to AFL standard from a handful of games this year, if the club says he is ready, then bring him in. Otherwise leave Brown.

Weid competed well and he was involved in multiple score involvements. Just because you aren't hitting the scoreboard, doesn't mean you're out of form. He can get involved in other ways, which he did, we still found a way to kick a winning score? Imagine when he's firing as well (which he's proven he can... multiple times).

Every game you play is about cohesion, clearly this is the way the senior coach sees it as well, having mentioned it multiple times. You achieve cohesion by playing the main stay players when and how ever you can, not fringe players whose only purpose, is to fill a backup. 

[Superunknown 4,223]

1 hour ago, DeePressed said:

Interesting for the selectors.

Win by 50+ points and we would overtake a beaten St Kilda. 

Go too attacking and we can become unstuck.

Go too conservative and potentially miss out on %

If Saints win, just need to get the points and pray for Freo.

 

In: Jackson, Harmes

Out: ANB, Tomlinson

 

If the Dogs lose, we just need to win. Doesn't matter by how much. We're 3% ahead of Footscray.

[Jack7 528]

Just bought tickets,anyone else going to the game,lets meet for Beers.

 

Forecast is 24 and little wind,hopefully not as bad as the Bulldogs game,i could barely walk into Metricon,we don't play well in wind and Rain-Bulldogs,Swans,Freo.

 

 

[Mr Steve 3,820]

Id take a punt on Brown wanting to tear Essendon a new butt hole on the weekend. 

[Kent 2,914]

3 hours ago, Ham said:

Could not disagree anymore.

How is LJ not ready? Just because you don't play a game in 5 weeks, doesn't automatically equate to you not being ready. He has clearly proven he is more than up to AFL standard from a handful of games this year, if the club says he is ready, then bring him in. Otherwise leave Brown.

Weid competed well and he was involved in multiple score involvements. Just because you aren't hitting the scoreboard, doesn't mean you're out of form. He can get involved in other ways, which he did, we still found a way to kick a winning score? Imagine when he's firing as well (which he's proven he can... multiple times).

Every game you play is about cohesion, clearly this is the way the senior coach sees it as well, having mentioned it multiple times. You achieve cohesion by playing the main stay players when and how ever you can, not fringe players whose only purpose, is to fill a backup. 

Yep Jones Ang and Melksham

You play they 

[chook fowler 19,533]

7 hours ago, Kent said:

Why would you drop Brown?

more than serviceable and solid defensively

Agree. It's not like for like and i think Brown and LJ can play together because he is so mobile and could have a roaming role on the wing. I would drop ANB or AVB for him 

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,765]

On 9/13/2020 at 8:58 PM, Jerry Lundergard said:

I haven't gone through this whole thread, but there is a lot of hate for Melksham on here.  He has been playing a defensive midfield role the last 2 weeks and did a great job on Taranto last night who figured to be a key inside mid for the Giants with Coniglio out. Add to that he is just about our best kick in a team with poor foot skills, there is no way I can entertain dropping him. Stick him on Merrett next week, and we'll be good.

Don't mind this call. I've been a bit critical of him, mainly because of ill discipline but I think this is a great role for Melky and you're right, he is definitely one of the more skilled players in our side.

[DeePressed 114]

I'd be picking the team that can kick the biggest score

My gut feel is Dogs will win but Saints game is 50/50 and they've been shaky under pressure. 

So it's all about our margin, but we'll know the result anyway so late changes a chance?

Must start well. Once Bombers give up they fold pretty quick.

[Demon17 5,202]

4 hours ago, DeePressed said:

Interesting for the selectors.

Win by 50+ points and we would overtake a beaten St Kilda. 

Go too attacking and we can become unstuck.

Go too conservative and potentially miss out on %

If Saints win, just need to get the points and pray for Freo.

 

In: Jackson, Harmes

Out: ANB, Tomlinson

 

Good summary.

 

Bottom line is we need to probably win by 6 goals unless the saints lose by heaps. Thus we need a team that can score quickly in short quarters and has good accuracy, not wasting chances . A narrow win serves no purpose.

The team needs the talent accordingly and that includes jackson if fit. And i would punt with Bennell also

[Spit Demon 58]

12 hours ago, 58er said:

But Dr Meaningless it is a double possibility and not so rare as you think. 

You are willing us to Not make Finals so  YOU Can criticise the Club all summer.

Generally your posts  are Negative dismissive and not balanced. While there is a mathematical chance live the dream and rejoice if it happens IF NOT we have got what we deserve 9th or 10th.

Should a team that is simply not good enough to challenge the top teams in the comp be playing finals (any team, not just MFC (unless perhaps it is a young team on the rise))??? I am only saying it like it is. If time and time again a team isn't good enough and consistently inconsistent, supporters will be venting and yes it's likely to be negative. If you can take positives from stuffing up a pretty damn good run to the finals you are better than I am, the time for excuses has long past.  This team should be the most feared team in the comp, and they have the talented players to be exactly that, yet they are not...

[Coq au vin 755]

3 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Agree. It's not like for like and i think Brown and LJ can play together because he is so mobile and could have a roaming role on the wing. I would drop ANB or AVB for him 

You’ve been cooked in red wine foul chicken. LJ isn’t ready. Leave the team alone. They won last week. No need for changes unless there are injuries.

[Cards13 9,117]

On 9/13/2020 at 8:58 PM, Jerry Lundergard said:

I haven't gone through this whole thread, but there is a lot of hate for Melksham on here.  He has been playing a defensive midfield role the last 2 weeks and did a great job on Taranto last night who figured to be a key inside mid for the Giants with Coniglio out. Add to that he is just about our best kick in a team with poor foot skills, there is no way I can entertain dropping him. Stick him on Merrett next week, and we'll be good.

Hate? People expressing an opinion that he has underperformed badly this year? Not sure that’s hate. Most have given him plenty of time to shine and he’s less than delivered. 
I’d rather see Harley back in the side this week, I don’t this Milky will win or lose is the game and HB will be interesting to see where he’s at.