Adam The God 30,706 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, Demon3 said: I think they will be in real flag contention, if not next year, the year after, they have got pillars on every line they are young and will develop beautifully. They have a very well balanced, list, great talls, good mediums, good smalls, really good contested footy players, pace and well coached. Reckon you're massively overrating them, but each to their own. 2 Quote
Red and Blue realist 2,063 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, Demon3 said: St Kilda are fast becoming a very well managed Football club.. they are giving us windburn as they go past us. They identify what they need and they act, swiftly and with out fuss. For some reason the Saints seem to think they are in win now mode, but I'm not convinced their list actually allows for that. Steele had an amazing year, and Marshall, Billings, Clark, Gresham, King and Coffield will all be really good players, but their older players in Hannebery, Ryder, Ross, Carlise and Hill have all past their best and don't have the class to carry them to far. Crouch doesn't add much either - although their end of season trips would be massive with Crouch, Hannebury and Carlise! Them overpaying for Hill, Crouch, Ryder and Hannebery ensures their likely to stay in that 5-10 range, but I don't see that they'll challenge seriously because there list is too unbalanced between those under 25 and those very close to the end. Quote
old dee 24,079 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, A F said: Reckon you're massively overrating them, but each to their own. Amen to that AF. Quote
Demon3 2,541 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, A F said: Reckon you're massively overrating them, but each to their own. Well i think you might be massively underrating them, but like you say, each to their own. Quote
Die Hard Demon 1,224 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Demon3 said: Well i think you might be massively underrating them, but like you say, each to their own. I agree with @Demon3 .. I reckon the saints have a very complete list.. can’t think of many, if any holes. Considering how many players they recruited last year, the “taking a while to gel” nonsense that gets overused here didn’t seem to affect them. They will consolidate this off season & push for a top 4 finish next year. Our trading has been very reactive of late & we seem to be behind the pace of most clubs. 2 Quote
Adam The God 30,706 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said: I agree with @Demon3 .. I reckon the saints have a very complete list.. can’t think of many, if any holes. Considering how many players they recruited last year, the “taking a while to gel” nonsense that gets overused here didn’t seem to affect them. They will consolidate this off season & push for a top 4 finish next year. Our trading has been very reactive of late & we seem to be behind the pace of most clubs. The midfield is pretty ordinary... Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,677 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, A F said: The midfield is pretty ordinary... Saints midfield - Inside: Steele, Ross, Hannebery, Dunstan. Outside - Hill, Z.Jones, Billings, Clark. Gresham also rotates through. Add in Crouch to inside mid for contested footy and they start to look complete. It’s not elite overall but highly effective as 2020 demonstrated. Quote
adonski 13,235 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Reckon Crouch is one of those guys who is a good player, looks good of paper, but makes your team no better 1 Quote
Demon3 2,541 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 28 minutes ago, A F said: The midfield is pretty ordinary... Its not Pretty ordinary at all.. i would say its pretty good. Not amazing and the best.. but it is far from "pretty ordinary" Quote
Pickett2Jackson 3,904 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, adonski said: Reckon Crouch is one of those guys who is a good player, looks good of paper, but makes your team no better Agreed, they can have him. Quote
roy11 4,058 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Side query: Is there anyone the cats will target now instead? They've got picks, we have an abundance of inside mids etc Quote
The heart beats true 18,201 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 I will say it’s interesting how quickly St Kilda have become a much more desirable proposition for players than they were 2 years ago. Ratten has been fantastic for them so far, if even just for their perception. 2 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, A F said: Reckon you're massively overrating them, but each to their own. 2 hours ago, Demon3 said: Well i think you might be massively underrating them, but like you say, each to their own. I think they will be lucky to make the 8 next year... I guess I'm massively underrating them...let's check in around September 2021 and see how I go. 2 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,529 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, adonski said: Reckon Crouch is one of those guys who is a good player, looks good of paper, but makes your team no better You might be right but he single handedly got them over the line against us in Darwin last year with 30 possessions, 3 goals and 3 Brownlow votes. Quote
BDA 23,048 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Demon3 said: St Kilda are fast becoming a very well managed Football club.. they are giving us windburn as they go past us. They identify what they need and they act, swiftly and with out fuss. I'm not bothered by the saints at all. We picked the better freo player last year. We are better than them defensively, our midfield has a much higher ceiling and the addition of Brown will give us a more potent attacking threat. Crouch will get on like a house on fire with Carlisle and Hannebury i'm sure. peas in a pod. Edited October 21, 2020 by Better days ahead 1 Quote
DubDee 26,666 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Demon3 said: I think they will be in real flag contention, if not next year, the year after, they have got pillars on every line they are young and will develop beautifully. They have a very well balanced, list, great talls, good mediums, good smalls, really good contested footy players, pace and well coached. Don’t agree. They are sorely missing class and X factor. Ironically a player like Trac is what they need. but a solid team none the less Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,364 Posted November 2, 2020 Posted November 2, 2020 Nominated the Saints so this thread heads off to our main board. Quote
whatwhat say what 23,808 Posted November 2, 2020 Posted November 2, 2020 adelaide talked a tough game - pick 2 as compo or they match and force a trade now, the q is whether they will hold to that or not Quote
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