32 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

I think they will be in real flag contention, if not next year, the year after, they have got pillars on every line they are young and will develop beautifully.

They have a very well balanced, list, great talls, good mediums, good smalls, really good contested footy players, pace and well coached. 

Reckon you're massively overrating them, but each to their own.

36 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

St Kilda are fast becoming a very well managed Football club.. they are giving us windburn as they go past us. They identify what they need and they act, swiftly and with out fuss.

For some reason the Saints seem to think they are in win now mode, but I'm not convinced their list actually allows for that. Steele had an amazing year, and Marshall, Billings, Clark, Gresham, King and Coffield will all be really good players, but their older players in Hannebery, Ryder, Ross, Carlise and Hill have all past their best and don't have the class to carry them to far. Crouch doesn't add much either - although their end of season trips would be massive with Crouch, Hannebury and Carlise! Them overpaying for Hill, Crouch, Ryder and Hannebery ensures their likely to stay in that 5-10 range, but I don't see that they'll challenge seriously because there list is too unbalanced between those under 25 and those very close to the end.

21 minutes ago, A F said:

Reckon you're massively overrating them, but each to their own.

Amen to that AF.

30 minutes ago, A F said:

Reckon you're massively overrating them, but each to their own.

Well  i think you might be massively underrating them, but like you say, each to their own.

4 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Well  i think you might be massively underrating them, but like you say, each to their own.

I agree with @Demon3 .. I reckon the saints have a very complete list.. can’t think of many, if any holes. Considering how many players they recruited last year, the “taking a while to gel” nonsense that gets overused here didn’t seem to affect them. They will consolidate this off season & push for a top 4 finish next year. Our trading has been very reactive of late & we seem to be behind the pace of most clubs. 

10 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said:

I agree with @Demon3 .. I reckon the saints have a very complete list.. can’t think of many, if any holes. Considering how many players they recruited last year, the “taking a while to gel” nonsense that gets overused here didn’t seem to affect them. They will consolidate this off season & push for a top 4 finish next year. Our trading has been very reactive of late & we seem to be behind the pace of most clubs. 

The midfield is pretty ordinary...

17 minutes ago, A F said:

The midfield is pretty ordinary...

Saints midfield - Inside: Steele, Ross, Hannebery, Dunstan.  Outside - Hill, Z.Jones, Billings, Clark. Gresham also rotates through. Add in Crouch to inside mid for contested footy and they start to look complete.  It’s not elite overall but highly effective as 2020 demonstrated.  

Reckon Crouch is one of those guys who is a good player, looks good of paper, but makes your team no better 

28 minutes ago, A F said:

The midfield is pretty ordinary...

Its not Pretty ordinary at all.. i would say its pretty good. Not amazing and the best.. but it is far from "pretty ordinary"

10 minutes ago, adonski said:

Reckon Crouch is one of those guys who is a good player, looks good of paper, but makes your team no better 

 

Agreed, they can have him.

 

Side query: Is there anyone the cats will target now instead? They've got picks, we have an abundance of inside mids etc

I will say it’s interesting how quickly St Kilda have become a much more desirable proposition for players than they were 2 years ago. Ratten has been fantastic for them so far, if even just for their perception. 

3 hours ago, A F said:

Reckon you're massively overrating them, but each to their own.

 

2 hours ago, Demon3 said:

Well  i think you might be massively underrating them, but like you say, each to their own.

I think they will be lucky to make the 8 next year...

I guess I'm massively underrating them...let's check in around September 2021 and see how I go.

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Reckon Crouch is one of those guys who is a good player, looks good of paper, but makes your team no better 

You might be right but he single handedly got them over the line against us in Darwin last year with 30 possessions, 3 goals and 3 Brownlow votes.

4 hours ago, Demon3 said:

St Kilda are fast becoming a very well managed Football club.. they are giving us windburn as they go past us. They identify what they need and they act, swiftly and with out fuss.

I'm not bothered by the saints at all.

We picked the better freo player last year. 

We are better than them defensively, our midfield has a much higher ceiling and the addition of Brown will give us a more potent attacking threat.

Crouch will get on like a house on fire with Carlisle and Hannebury i'm sure. peas in a pod.

Edited October 21, 20205 yr by Better days ahead

5 hours ago, Demon3 said:

I think they will be in real flag contention, if not next year, the year after, they have got pillars on every line they are young and will develop beautifully.

They have a very well balanced, list, great talls, good mediums, good smalls, really good contested footy players, pace and well coached. 

Don’t agree. They are sorely missing class and X factor. Ironically a player like Trac is what they need. 
but a solid team none the less

Nominated the Saints so this thread heads off to our main board.

adelaide talked a tough game - pick 2 as compo or they match and force a trade

now, the q is whether they will hold to that or not