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  On 05/08/2020 at 02:37, Gawndog98 said:

There is no point in trading brayshaw because we won't get any value at all for him, the absolute best a team would give for him is a second round pick, which especially in this year's draft doesn't have much currency to trade on for a need or will be good enough to pick a player that will have a big impact in the next few years. Trade Oliver or let Viney walk as a free agent for mine. If people want an outside classy player trading Brayshaw won't be enough to secure a player like that. Gotta give up value to get value. Brayshaw will also a better player by losing one of those 2 because he will actually get to play inside midfield. 

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Viney & Oliver won't be traded.

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I think people need to read the full Lloyd quote “Trade Oliver or Brayshaw... to Essendon”.

The fool. 

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Folks think that 2018 was an aberration for Gus.  It wasn't! 

He had an outstanding 2015; his first year, he played 21 games and just missed the top 10 in the b&f.  It was the year before Oliver arrived and Gus had a lot of midfield time.  Injured most of 2016/2017 and the whole club had a poor 2019.

He is just coming into his prime:  24 yo and approaching 100 games.  There would be many clubs who would take him and happily build their midfield around him. 

As I said a few days ago it will be our loss if we trade him.

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  On 05/08/2020 at 06:27, praha said:

Oliver would net us a first round pick + solid player. Brayshaw has about as much value as Nathan Jones atm.

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no where near enough. The keys to improving isn't trading your best midfielder of the last 30 years. 

It also makes little sense as he is our quickest midfielder also. Please up your medication before posting  

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  On 06/08/2020 at 00:41, spirit of norm smith said:

Trade Oliver !!  
 

Lloyd is a tool or a fool. Either way he’s got it wrong !!!


Go Dees. Go Clarry

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As alluded to on here a couple of times, s endun (bummers) would love Oliver. 

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  On 05/08/2020 at 07:04, Gawndog98 said:

I'm not saying we should trade Oliver, I'm just saying we won't get anything for Brayshaw if we get him. My opinion is we should let Viney walk then Brayshaw will be able to play inside mid and we get a good pick and cash to chase an outside classy player.

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You don't let a player like Viney walk. Ludicrous suggestion

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  On 06/08/2020 at 00:38, Dr.D said:

no where near enough. The keys to improving isn't trading your best midfielder of the last 30 years. 

It also makes little sense as he is our quickest midfielder also. Please up your medication before posting  

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I don't think Praha was saying we should trade Oliver. He was only stating what they would be worth in a trade

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  On 06/08/2020 at 00:38, Dr.D said:

no where near enough. The keys to improving isn't trading your best midfielder of the last 30 years. 

It also makes little sense as he is our quickest midfielder also. Please up your medication before posting  

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i agree. just outlining what we'd get in return. 


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  On 06/08/2020 at 00:41, spirit of norm smith said:

Trade Oliver !!  CB825D0A-FC49-4B04-A9E3-0C3DBF27A045.gif.83750bfff03784b30914777f670bd5f7.gif
 

Lloyd is a tool or a fool. Either way he’s got it wrong !!!


Go Dees. Go Clarry

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Can we have both?  ? 

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Having posted previously about Oliver it’s great to admit you are wrong.His game against the crows was probably one of  his best since 2018 if not even longer. At last showed he can do more than just handball and kick anywhere, became a far more balanced player and showed can become truly elite. As with Brayshaw in the second half moved back to the centre where he should always play became a real force with glimpses of 2018. Both are must keep . Oliver on the ball and Bradshaw in the centre. 

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  On 07/08/2020 at 01:14, Gee N said:

Having posted previously about Oliver it’s great to admit you are wrong.His game against the crows was probably one of  his best since 2018 if not even longer. At last showed he can do more than just handball and kick anywhere, became a far more balanced player and showed can become truly elite. As with Brayshaw in the second half moved back to the centre where he should always play became a real force with glimpses of 2018. Both are must keep . Oliver on the ball and Bradshaw in the centre. 

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Who is this Bradshaw that keeps popping up?

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Lloyd is saying that we need to balance the midfield. He isn't wrong.

We are super strong on the inside. On the outside we have Langdon, Tomlinson, vandenBerg, Jones and ANB. 

Langdon was a second rounder for a reason.T Tomlinsonlooks like a mistake. I love VDB but he is playing that role because we require him to not because he is suited. Likewise Jones. ANB shouldn't get another game.

If we replaced these guys with two hard running players with decent pace we would balance our list without giving up to much they don't need to be A graders.

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  On 07/08/2020 at 02:48, BAMF said:

 

Langdon was a second rounder for a reason.T Tomlinsonlooks like a mistake.

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If Landgon could clean up his kicking a bit he would be very good.  His ball drop is so bad.    He always seems so close to doing something really good then kicks a shocker or fumbles the ball.    His speed and running ability have helped us but yeah, those foot skills....

Tomlinson Im not ready to give up on. Lets see how he goes down back if they keep him there.

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