19 hours ago, A F said:

19 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

 

Paradoxically, I'd still play Weideman deep and keep Tom roaming. Weideman is starting to look dangerous deep and will begin to worry defenders the more his confidence grows

Weid is good as a deep frwd but we definately need someone who can come down the ground and clunk 6 or 7 marks so the idea of tmac deep is probably an idea to consider with Jackson out. Otherwise I cant see a place for Tmac.

Edited August 24, 20204 yr by leave it to deever

On 8/24/2020 at 10:00 AM, S_T said:

So after a game where we get smashed around stoppages, smashed on the spread, smashed in transition, and smashed in skills, let's blame a guy who's 6'4.  Makes sense.

Every player needs to play their role. If anybody doesn't play their part it lets the team down.

TMacs been out of form for the best part of two years now.

Its just not good enough and we can’t afford to keep gifting him games until he is absolutely banging down the door with consecutive great performances in the twos.

We have to try guys like M. Brown and Joel Smith in his position until Jackson is ready to return.

2 hours ago, DeeZee said:

TMacs been out of form for the best part of two years now.

Its just not good enough and we can’t afford to keep gifting him games until he is absolutely banging down the door with consecutive great performances in the twos.

We have to try guys like M. Brown and Joel Smith in his position until Jackson is ready to return.

Not sure why Joel smith hasn't been tried in the fwd line. He is rubbish in the backline but looked great in last year's pre season in the fwd line. One of the bizarre goodwin decisions

Poor TMac .... he's cooked.

50 minutes ago, Elegt said:

Not sure why Joel smith hasn't been tried in the fwd line. He is rubbish in the backline but looked great in last year's pre season in the fwd line. One of the bizarre goodwin decisions

Because he won’t be at the club next year

On 8/23/2020 at 3:49 PM, Biffen said:

We can finally agree on something.

I know you think you're the missing forward coach we've needed but you really over do it.

It's a simple game ,over-complicated by off-field handicappers who are no longer able to physically play it.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

 

Joke warning AF.  I would not want to ask you for directions if I was lost.

3 hours ago, DeeZee said:

TMacs been out of form for the best part of two years now.

Its just not good enough and we can’t afford to keep gifting him games until he is absolutely banging down the door with consecutive great performances in the twos.

We have to try guys like M. Brown and Joel Smith in his position until Jackson is ready to return.

Think we are stuck with TMac for the moment as we need a backup ruck and we don’t want Weid playing that role now that he has clicked as a KPF. Can Brown ruck? Don’t know. Interestingly seeing the Dogs use Dunkley for boundary throw-ins to some effect I wonder if we couldn’t think outside the square on the backup ruck issue. Wonder if we are going to keep playing AVB, he could play the Dunkley roll in the forward part of the ground? 

Mitch Cleary on the AFL site suggesting Tom should look elsewhere next year. Mentioned Essendon and Collingwood as possible homes. Based this on the presumption that we do not want him as we picked Preuss against Freo. Says he still has something to offer, cited the fact he kicked 4 goals in a semi final in 2018. Clearly has not done his research or seen Tom play this or last year.

So there you go, maybe some good will come out of this year after all!

 

 

Edited September 9, 20204 yr by Guest

I think it’s a good move for player and club.

He’s seemed very disgruntled for the last 18 months and I’m not sure there is a clear role for him at the Dees. 
 

If, as suggested, he was asked to put on 10kg to play as a bigger stay at home forward, the club owes him an apology. His strength was his tank and they took that away from him

47 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

Mitch Cleary on the AFL site suggesting Tom should look elsewhere next year. Mentioned Essendon and Collingwood as possible homes. Based this on the presumption that we do not want him as we picked Preuss against Freo. Says he still has something to offer, cited the fact he kicked 4 goals in a semi final in 2018. Clearly has not done his research or seen Tom play this or last year.

So there you go, maybe some good will come out of this year after all!

 

 

Their welcome to have him. 

Hope he plays some more footy. Probably best as a defender. Just not at Mfc.

On 8/22/2020 at 5:51 PM, titan_uranus said:

As is too often the case, you're wrong.

His efforts are fine.

His ability is the problem.

His ability is not the problem.

His problem is obviously related to his physical condition 

7 minutes ago, binman said:

His ability is not the problem.

His problem is obviously related to his physical condition 

The two attributes are interrelated not mutually exclusive.

Tom was a great endurance athlete, probably still is.

Something physically happened to him, foot, back, hips that has ruined his agility and flexibility. Fatally.

I also get the impression he's a big sook and is a confidence player more than anything.

His career has been cruelled by injury. He is obviously not fit. If Burgess can’t get him right then I’m not sure anyone can. Hawthorn have a lot of faith in their medical team so perhaps they might take the chance. Very sad to see as I like Tmac.

Would still like Tmac to be tried at CHB before we part ways or consider that a possibility.

At This  Stage of the season Goody should be trying Brown down back Tommy at CHB or leave him in the ruck ad he offers more than Pruess in that second rival role and Joel Smith up forward!

He  owes it to himself as coach not to be too stereotyped about players ( and stubborn) and also as an opportunity to the players to develop and succeed.

We know the definition of insanity and Goody is one it it's disciples based on his lack of dare and flexibility in selections.  

On 8/23/2020 at 8:57 PM, rjay said:

Thanks 'AF'...

That was also what I meant to post and got sidetracked.

I sure hope we get that news very soon...

So R Jay you don't think Pickett has a future?

Really we are damned if we do or even if we don't sometimes 

That is a great show of faith in an 18/19 yo and will reaffirm confidence in him.

Yes he has faults but look at the 2018 Riding star at the Pies he has had a rough nearly 2 years since.

We are too easily impatient With  youth!!!

On 7/30/2020 at 8:50 PM, Elegt said:

Does anyone actually rate this guy? Don't think I've ever seen a slower footballer in my life

Short memory !!

Think of Tommy's  2018 season no lack of pace opened up on the wing on occasions.

Burgess needs to have a look and see why he can do I feel unless his body is totally wrecked.

We can only hope he sorts his body out. It's his lateral agility that seems to have gone.

No value in a trade and still might come good.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but does anyone know his contract status?

I hope Petty is injury free in 2021. Forward line of Petty, Weid and Jackson make more sense than persisting with Tmac.

Take what we can get for him in a trade or he's depth for us 

11 minutes ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but does anyone know his contract status?

Signed until end of 2022.

13 minutes ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

We can only hope he sorts his body out. It's his lateral agility that seems to have gone.

No value in a trade and still might come good.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but does anyone know his contract status?

2 years to run on his contract

1 hour ago, Coq au vin said:

The two attributes are interrelated not mutually exclusive.

Depends on how you define ability.

I define is as talent

Injury and condition impacts on your capacity to optimize your ability.

Take Tiger Woods.  Arguably the greatest  golfer ever. Certainly close tot he most talented golfer ever.

Went fourteen years without a major in large part because of a chronic back injury. Didn't play competitive golf or more than 3 years. He didn't lose his talent in that time, thought of course he is closing in on 45 so getting older and won the masters. 

At his age Tmac should be at the peak of his career as a power forward. It has is very unlikely he has lost his ability. Confidence yes, injury can do that (just look a Lever coming back after his knee injury), but talent and ability no. 

He is clearly hampered by injury, chronic or otherwise.

I should be amazed, but am not, that so few seem to be acknowledging this seemingly evident fact (on here and worse football commentators and so called analysts who express confusion as to what has happened to him).

3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Signed until end of 2022.

Which isn't really an issue if he is OK to go and and another club incorporates these two years into a 3 or 4 year deal 

Is he on big coin with us? Wouldn't have thought so

TMac is a defender if I have ever seen one. 

He is fools gold as a power forward.

He kicked goals in 2018 finishing off amazing pre-6,6,6 midfield pressure dominance. He did great! But he was always a trumped up swingman. 

Poor bugger should be an AA defender right now.