Weideman's Future?

[Demon Disciple 12,520]

23 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING THIS FOR WEEKS. GIVE WEIDEMAN 5-6 WEEKS. I DONT CARE IF HE DOESNT GET A KICK IN WEEK 1.  
He’s critical to our future and we need to back him in. If he doesn’t stack up, then ok set for trade and get best outcome for all. 

Give him the rest of the year SONS

[Pates 9,692]

24 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING THIS FOR WEEKS. GIVE WEIDEMAN 5-6 WEEKS. I DONT CARE IF HE DOESNT GET A KICK IN WEEK 1.  
He’s critical to our future and we need to back him in. If he doesn’t stack up, then ok set for trade and get best outcome for all. 

Thing is, if we lose this week the season is pretty much a wash anyway. So might as well look at development and surely he falls into that category.

[Coq au vin 755]

25 minutes ago, Pates said:

Thing is, if we lose this week the season is pretty much a wash anyway. So might as well look at development and surely he falls into that category.

He will be delisted at years end and go to Collingwood where he will become the greatest goal kicker of modern history.

[picket fence 18,114]

18 hours ago, Grr-owl said:

So, the question is Where is Weid?

OK I reckon this guy like many others is devoid of confidence , and the club has mystifyingly not played him in a team which is crying out for KEY marking  forwards because of Goodwins shanbolic, forward structure!

ok he kicked 3 GREAT GOALS in a cut throat elimination final, but also did some great work in creating opportunities up the ground!!

If i CAN SEE IT and many on demonland can see it WHY the perfuurg cant Goodwin and match brains trust????

To answer the main question...

He will move to COLLINGWOOD and become a superstar like Howe and to a lesser extent Dunne

TYPICAL MFC INCOMPETENCE in developing players!

Edited July 7, 2020 by picket fence

[Deecisive 1,709]

We need to give the guy a chance to feel comfortable playing CHF, then maybe he can play the type of football that we have seen glimpses of. Hell he cannot do much worse than some of our existing forwards.  If we dont play him then he will be wanting to be traded and we will lose him for a round 3 pick because we dont value him as much as another side will. He is young enough and talented enough to hold down CHF for the dees, so give him a chance.

 

[DeeSpencer 26,629]

My frustrations with the Weid's development are:

1. He's never really had a consistent run in the VFL to become 'the man'. He had a good stretch in 2018 when he started to find consistent form down a level and that translated in a really nice end to that season. Last year was clearly a disaster. But now that he's healthy he could've had a really strong patch of form in the VFL and convinced everyone that he's a proper goal kicker and reliable target.

2. Apart from runs in the ruck with various success (average in ruck contests, good around the ground) he hasn't had a lot of variety in his development. He's never had a go down back and rarely has been asked to do much of anything particular as a forward as far as I can tell. Usually it's just be the 2nd tall and try to stay out of the way whilst the main tall target and a dangerous (in theory) Melksham type get the forward targets.

Now he's out of VFL or scratch matches so the idea of a consistent run of good form down a level won't happen. Hopefully he gets a consistent run at the top level and a role to play that actually can develop his game. 

 

[Wrecker45 3,381]

40 minutes ago, Pates said:

Thing is, if we lose this week the season is pretty much a wash anyway. So might as well look at development and surely he falls into that category.

So Weid has gone from an early draft pick to a charity selection?

[Pates 9,692]

3 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

So Weid has gone from an early draft pick to a charity selection?

It's not charity selection if he's taking marks and kicking goals in the only form of practice matches we have available, and the first team is not doing either.

[Wrecker45 3,381]

5 hours ago, poita said:

Why have we not had Schwarz, Neitz or Lyon down at the club working with Weideman from day dot? All of these guys were competitors, they attacked the football and they demanded the ball from their teammates. If not them, then find someone who will help him out, because it sure is not going to be coming from Rooke, Chaplin or any of the other lightweights we have running the forward line.

Weideman is lacking in all of these respects and we should have been constantly working on these parts of his game. Instead we waste crucial development time playing him in the ruck or letting him chase kicks around the ground. It is alarming how badly we develop players over and over again.

Nobody came down to the club to train Lyon, neitz or the ox. They were competitors, Weid isn't.

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

The Choofta will be in the side this week. Article praising his 3 goal game. 
 

bennell with 35 can no longer be ignored either. 

[Wrecker45 3,381]

4 minutes ago, Pates said:

It's not charity selection if he's taking marks and kicking goals in the only form of practice matches we have available, and the first team is not doing either.

I'm yet to see him take a pack mark unless everyone else falls over and he does a Bradbury.

[John Demonic 5,987]

29 minutes ago, picket fence said:

OK I reckon this guy like many others is devoid of confidence , and the club has mystifyingly not played him in a team which is crying out for KEY marking  forwards because of Goodwins shanbolic, forward structure!

ok he kicked 3 GREAT GOALS in a cut throat elimination final, but also did some great work in creating opportunities up the ground!!

If i CAN SEE IT and many on demonland can see it WHY the perfuurg cant Goodwin and match brains trust????

To answer the main question...

He will move to COLLINGWOOD and become a superstar like Howe and to a lesser extent Dunne

TYPICAL MFC INCOMPETENCE in developing players!

Fagan plays Hipwood. He hardly contributes from week to week and pops up occasionally with a brilliant quarter. also a player who had a very good patch of form in his first or 2nd year, like Weid. Hipwood is getting experience, building a tank, learning what works and doesn't, by being played week to week. Weid is in the same boat and should be played all year for development. 

Edited July 7, 2020 by John Demonic

[Pates 9,692]

1 minute ago, Wrecker45 said:

I'm yet to see him take a pack mark unless everyone else falls over and he does a Bradbury.

You obviously had your eyes closed for the Geelong and Hawthorn finals then. I'm not saying he should dine out on it and that makes him an automatic selection but it shows he was capable then, he should be capable now. I think a lot of it is confidence.

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

It hurts to watch this now.  He really put it all together that night.  The hit on Dangerfield really topped it off.

Really hope he comes in this week and launches his career properly.

 

 

[Biffen 12,949]

Tired of coaches teaching the talent and will out of players.Just get our best 22 out there and win us  game you grimacing idiot.

Get them playing a with a sense of purpose.

Coach with some passion-as if your career depends on it-because it does.

[Vineytime 854]

33 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

The Choofta will be in the side this week. Article praising his 3 goal game. 
 

bennell with 35 can no longer be ignored either. 

3 weeks after the whole AFL supporter base has been questioning why these two haven’t been in the team, will the club finally see what everyone else does. 

[Rednblueriseing 866]

On 6/19/2020 at 8:28 PM, MyFavouriteMartian said:

This is close to what I think.  

I'm of the view that either they both play side by side,  or its one or the other to play deep.

I could see a forward-line of Weide & TMc,  and Brown out at CHF.  With Brown leading up into the midzone,  with Weide and TMc revolving around the F50.

I like this idea could also allow Fritsch to play high half forward 

[rjay 25,404]

1 hour ago, John Demonic said:

Fagan plays Hipwood. He hardly contributes from week to week and pops up occasionally with a brilliant quarter. also a player who had a very good patch of form in his first or 2nd year, like Weid. Hipwood is getting experience, building a tank, learning what works and doesn't, by being played week to week. Weid is in the same boat and should be played all year for development. 

Yep, no point wasting him in the scratch matches and couldn't do any less than Tommy.

Let's see what Weid can do with a consistent rum at it...

[Pates 9,692]

2 minutes ago, rjay said:

Yep, no point wasting him in the scratch matches and couldn't do any less than Tommy.

Let's see what Weid can do with a consistent rum at it...

I mean this is the other concerning part to our team, Tommy keeps getting a game when he is doing sweet bugger all. I really think that both of them play better when there is another tall option in the team. 

TMac - CHF/stints in ruck
Weid - FF
----
Gawn - rest period in forward line as tall marking option, push Weid into CHF

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

2 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

The Choofta will be in the side this week. Article praising his 3 goal game. 
 

bennell with 35 can no longer be ignored either. 

ANB has 27 touches ... grain of salt. 

[Coq au vin 755]

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

OK I reckon this guy like many others is devoid of confidence , and the club has mystifyingly not played him in a team which is crying out for KEY marking  forwards because of Goodwins shanbolic, forward structure!

ok he kicked 3 GREAT GOALS in a cut throat elimination final, but also did some great work in creating opportunities up the ground!!

If i CAN SEE IT and many on demonland can see it WHY the perfuurg cant Goodwin and match brains trust????

To answer the main question...

He will move to COLLINGWOOD and become a superstar like Howe and to a lesser extent Dunne

TYPICAL MFC INCOMPETENCE in developing players!

Yes you are absolutely right.

[Coq au vin 755]

2 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Fagan plays Hipwood. He hardly contributes from week to week and pops up occasionally with a brilliant quarter. also a player who had a very good patch of form in his first or 2nd year, like Weid. Hipwood is getting experience, building a tank, learning what works and doesn't, by being played week to week. Weid is in the same boat and should be played all year for development. 

Hipwood is six light years ahead of weed.

[Coq au vin 755]

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

My frustrations with the Weid's development are:

1. He's never really had a consistent run in the VFL to become 'the man'. He had a good stretch in 2018 when he started to find consistent form down a level and that translated in a really nice end to that season. Last year was clearly a disaster. But now that he's healthy he could've had a really strong patch of form in the VFL and convinced everyone that he's a proper goal kicker and reliable target.

2. Apart from runs in the ruck with various success (average in ruck contests, good around the ground) he hasn't had a lot of variety in his development. He's never had a go down back and rarely has been asked to do much of anything particular as a forward as far as I can tell. Usually it's just be the 2nd tall and try to stay out of the way whilst the main tall target and a dangerous (in theory) Melksham type get the forward targets.

Now he's out of VFL or scratch matches so the idea of a consistent run of good form down a level won't happen. Hopefully he gets a consistent run at the top level and a role to play that actually can develop his game. 

 

He’s out of favour with Badloss.

[ding 5,126]

On 6/19/2020 at 12:28 PM, faultydet said:

The fact that nobody else does it kind of pointless isn't it? Weideman doesn't. Which means that it is a moot point to look to him for something he doesn't provide.

We have a massive weakness in our key position players in that we are always exposed aerially. I hope our free agent focus is on people who can address this weakness while we are in possession  of a ball winning midfield. Our "window" will never truly open unless we find players who can grab a contested mark.

We desperately need the next Stewie Lowe with the kicking accuracy of fat-guts Tony Lockett.

Shouldnt be too hard to find.

The sort of player you pick up n the draft at pick 68-ish (No idea when he was drafted)

Over to you recruitment team

[Grr-owl 1,258]

Thought Weid was good today. Sure, dropped a couple e shoulda taken, but he can look at himself in the mirror tonight and feel good. Play the boy the rest of the year and give ‘I’m a fair dinkum run at it..