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9 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Our backyard isn't squeaky clean.

I don't want to give media or anyone else amunition but most of you 40 or over will know who I'm talking about.

There was a much loved indigenous player both by the players and supporters who had a nickname that never sat well with me.This isn't in hindsight.

 

I hope the club could own it and fix it, this stuff always comes out in the end. I always thought the way Gary Lyon put his hand up as part of the problem was decent!

 
8 hours ago, Darkhorse72 said:

It wasn't a nickname at the club, it was an incident by G.Lyons during an Eagles game when he abused Chris Lewis who pointed out Charles to him, which Lyon said something along the lines "he understands".   Lyon apologised publicly and acknowledge how wrong it was expressed the same in his book at the time.  It was around the time of the stand by Kraker and the start of the changing culture of the AFL.   

I was actually thinking of the Schwarz incident/s, which wasn't a club nickname either as far as I know.

49 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I was actually thinking of the Schwarz incident/s, which wasn't a club nickname either as far as I know.

Don't know of that one...

 
18 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I am staggered that McGuire kept his jobs in the media after calling Adam Goodes King Kong. 
 

If he had said it in the last month he would have been axed for sure. 
 

H.L.is not going to let this go...

I agree, which is ridiculous to think it would be based on when the pitch forks were out or not.

2 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

I agree, which is ridiculous to think it would be based on when the pitch forks were out or not.

Yes i know. But that’s how it all works. Eddie being the  “Head Honcho” of the Boys Club probably saved his [censored] as well. 
I don’t listen to MMM but I imagine they all had a laugh about it when first said, then a week later were seriosly apololgizing and backpedaling 


6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes i know. But that’s how it all works. Eddie being the  “Head Honcho” of the Boys Club probably saved his [censored] as well. 
I don’t listen to MMM but I imagine they all had a laugh about it when first said, then a week later were seriosly apololgizing and backpedaling 

Actually, to his credit, Luke Darcy did not laugh or encourage it at all, he actually pulled him up on it instantly.

 

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    1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Yes i know. But that’s how it all works. Eddie being the  “Head Honcho” of the Boys Club probably saved his [censored] as well. 
    I don’t listen to MMM but I imagine they all had a laugh about it when first said, then a week later were seriosly apololgizing and backpedaling 

    its all ok. Collingwood have an integrity unit with a board member co-opted in, so it will all be ok.

     

     

    15 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

    its all ok. Collingwood have an integrity unit with a board member co-opted in, so it will all be ok.

     

     

    “There’s Free Speech, as long as you don’t say too much...”

     
    16 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    Actually, to his credit, Luke Darcy did not laugh or encourage it at all, he actually pulled him up on it instantly.

     

    Would love to hear the original transmission of this. It disappeared very quickly 

    14 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Would love to hear the original transmission of this. It disappeared very quickly 

    I'm pretty sure it's in both of the Goodes' docos, which are both very much worth watching.

    Edit - found a part of the transcript:

    McGuire: "Get Adam Goodes down for it do you reckon?"

    Darcy: "No I wouldn't have thought so, absolutely not."

    McGuire: "You can see them doing that can't you?"

    Darcy: "Who?"

    McGuire: "Goodsey."

    Darcy: "What's that?"

    McGuire: "You know with the ape thing, the whole thing, I'm just saying the pumping him up and mucking around and all that sort of stuff."

     

    Edited by Lord Nev


    6 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    I'm pretty sure it's in both of the Goodes' docos, which are both very much worth watching.

    Edit - found a part of the transcript:

    McGuire: "Get Adam Goodes down for it do you reckon?"

    Darcy: "No I wouldn't have thought so, absolutely not."

    McGuire: "You can see them doing that can't you?"

    Darcy: "Who?"

    McGuire: "Goodsey."

    Darcy: "What's that?"

    McGuire: "You know with the ape thing, the whole thing, I'm just saying the pumping him up and mucking around and all that sort of stuff."

     

    Cheers 

    McGuire kept his job after saying that. 
    unbelievable

    i notice he has now stained Footy Classified...

    he was a lot worse with Caro, with the 'keep her head under water' comment, which was specifically hateful.

    and says a hell of a lot for both Eddie and Caro's 'moral fibre' that they now sell out and sit next to each other on footy classified. the almighty dollar overrides the conscience.

     

     

     

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    8 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

    he was a lot worse with Caro, with the 'keep her head under water' comment, which was specifically hateful.

    and says a hell of a lot for both Eddie and Caro's 'moral fibre' that they now sell out and sit next to each other on footy classified. the almighty dollar overrides the conscience.

     

     

     

    Good point. I had forgotten his comments about Wilson. The evidence mounts, but nothing is ever done

    There is real ignorance and stupidity shown. It’s quite amazing that racists and bigots can be tall or short, white or blue collar or male or female. But “it was out of context “ or “light hearted fun” is not accepted, nor it should. 

    Interesting that some anonymous person on social media attacks a player and it's media coverage for days on end. But the coverage of cultural issues embedded at the biggest club in the land is barely touched upon, relative. Anyone that has sat in corporate boxes during a Pies or Richmond home game with club heavyweights will know just how engrained racism, sexism and homophobia is in their cultures. And board members inn an earshot just letting it slide.


    4 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

    Actually, to his credit, Luke Darcy did not laugh or encourage it at all, he actually pulled him up on it instantly.

     

    Yes. thought Darcy was trying quite hard to give Eddie the hint to shut it down.

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      I saw a game at Victoria park during which the Filth were actually spitting on, throwing beer  and swearing at the fullback who was trying to  stay back on his man and had to watch the play upfield. It was one of the last games  ever at Vic Park, mercifully.

      Although Eddie has said some totally stupid things I don't think he is a racist.He's just a Boof head. Harry and Goodes have made their point but I doubt they have experienced anything near what say Sid Jackson would have endured in his time. I've had the pleasure of meeting Sid Jackson(twice)and he was an absolute gent.

     I think society is more civilised in some ways and less civilised in others.In general, standards of human behaviour have declined  as has the emotional strength of individual men. "Sticks and Stones" was the way I was brought up but then again I love giving and receiving insults.The generation younger than me are far more sensitive to words. 

      I've got no issue with black people pointing out racist behaviour. Having said that White woketivism is cringey.#Black Lives Matter is a total crock and #Take a Knee is also.Police brutality is one issue that has now been conflated into a number of American issues. Having said that ,H has issues that are nothing to do with Eddie or the Filth.

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    28 minutes ago, Biffen said:

        I've got no issue with black people pointing out racist behaviour. Having said that White woketivism is cringey.#Black Lives Matter is a total crock and #Take a Knee is also.Police brutality is one issue that has now been conflated into a number of American issues. Having said that ,H has issues that are nothing to do with Eddie or the Filth.

    You've got no issue with people pointing out a poor free kick, but heaven forbid anyone boo the umpires when the tally is 23-7?

    5 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

    You've got no issue with people pointing out a poor free kick, but heaven forbid anyone boo the umpires when the tally is 23-7?

    Do you have a point to make?

    13 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

    I'm pretty sure it's in both of the Goodes' docos, which are both very much worth watching.

    Edit - found a part of the transcript:

    McGuire: "Get Adam Goodes down for it do you reckon?"

    Darcy: "No I wouldn't have thought so, absolutely not."

    McGuire: "You can see them doing that can't you?"

    Darcy: "Who?"

    McGuire: "Goodsey."

    Darcy: "What's that?"

    McGuire: "You know with the ape thing, the whole thing, I'm just saying the pumping him up and mucking around and all that sort of stuff."

     

    Urgh, reading that is just cringe worthy. Darcy isn't even subtle about it, that Eddie keeps his job after that and so much more is disgusting. 

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    6 hours ago, Pates said:

    Urgh, reading that is just cringe worthy. Darcy isn't even subtle about it, that Eddie keeps his job after that and so much more is disgusting. 

    By that token, Waleed Aly should have been sacked many times because I disagree with most of his crafted speech and deliberate false assertions.In fact, you could sack most radio people based on dumb comments.

    How did we get to the point where we think it's ok to  take peoples jobs away for something they said? It happens nearly every week.

    I realise Eddie probably has plenty of income so it's not such a blow to him but the culture of "cancelling" is the start of something more sinister.

    Who arbitrates this Cancelling? Is it the CEO of a beer company or some other major sponsor-perhaps a bookmaker?   Are ALL men really responsible when a woman dies from domestic violence? I struggle with some of these leaps of logic.Modern wisdom leaves me feeling flat.

    13 hours ago, Biffen said:

      I saw a game at Victoria park during which the Filth were actually spitting on, throwing beer  and swearing at the fullback who was trying to  stay back on his man and had to watch the play upfield. It was one of the last games  ever at Vic Park, mercifully.

      Although Eddie has said some totally stupid things I don't think he is a racist.He's just a Boof head. Harry and Goodes have made their point but I doubt they have experienced anything near what say Sid Jackson would have endured in his time. I've had the pleasure of meeting Sid Jackson(twice)and he was an absolute gent.

     I think society is more civilised in some ways and less civilised in others.In general, standards of human behaviour have declined  as has the emotional strength of individual men. "Sticks and Stones" was the way I was brought up but then again I love giving and receiving insults.The generation younger than me are far more sensitive to words. 

      I've got no issue with black people pointing out racist behaviour. Having said that White woketivism is cringey.#Black Lives Matter is a total crock and #Take a Knee is also.Police brutality is one issue that has now been conflated into a number of American issues. Having said that ,H has issues that are nothing to do with Eddie or the Filth.

    If I hadn't read through to your last paragraph I was going to contact the Police and report a case of identity theft.

    20 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Would love to hear the original transmission of this. It disappeared very quickly 

     

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    52 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Wow ? Just Wow

    He kept his job after that!!!

    Had forgotten that the "excuse" was so lame


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