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Not wishing to claim a scoop but this news doesn't 'seem' to have appeared elsewhere on a demonland thread. According to an article on afl.com 'Coaching squeeze hits as Dees make tough calls' Daniel is not unfortunately one of the twenty five staff currently retained at MFC. A sign of the times sadly. Daniel has been a loyal servant to the club both as an experienced player, member of the coaching staff and runner on match days. Max Roach has also been stood down from the coaching staff. Wish them both well.

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1 hour ago, Tarax Club said:

Not wishing to claim a scoop but this news doesn't 'seem' to have appeared elsewhere on a demonland thread. According to an article on afl.com 'Coaching squeeze hits as Dees make tough calls' Daniel is not unfortunately one of the twenty five staff currently retained at MFC. A sign of the times sadly. Daniel has been a loyal servant to the club both as an experienced player, member of the coaching staff and runner on match days. Max Roach has also been stood down from the coaching staff. Wish them both well.

Rooke actuallyย 

Bothย unluckyย 

 
6 hours ago, 58er said:

Rooke actuallyย 

Bothย unluckyย 

Isnt Rook our forward coach?

If so no loss.


I wonder if this means that the AFL plan to abolish match day runners altogether? I know many, if not all coaches, think they are essential. However, if I were running the newย financially constrained model of the AFL, I think getting rid of runners would beย an easier option thanย many other tougher decisions.

I may be biased, though. I've been in favour of abolishing runners well before Covid-19.

Unlucky and well wishes to both.

Justย had a look at our coaching staff on the website and Stafford isnโ€™t listed in any official capacityย as either ruck or goal kicking coach. Have I missed something?

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2 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Unlucky and well wishes to both.

Justย had a look at our coaching staff on the website and Stafford isnโ€™t listed in any official capacityย as either ruck or goal kicking coach. Have I missed something?

Youโ€™d assume many โ€œspecialistโ€ positions would have been cut amid all of this.ย 


Sad news for Crossy. He has brought so much to our club, and the players speak so highly of him.

Robbo doing a duel entertainment /runner role for the club now?ย 

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I wonder if this means that the AFL plan to abolish match day runners altogether? I know many, if not all coaches, think they are essential. However, if I were running the newย financially constrained model of the AFL, I think getting rid of runners would beย an easier option thanย many other tougher decisions.

I may be biased, though. I've been in favour of abolishing runners well before Covid-19.

Shows the complete lack of understanding of the Club by many posters on here

Daniel Cross was not just the runner, he worked as part of both Misson's and Burgess'ย staff as part of the rehab team

With only 3 players in rehab at the moment, it was obviously decided he could be stood down as part of the culling

Max Rooke is a development coach, obviously something Egan can do on his own for a while, especially with Richo still there asย well

Jared Rivers at North is an interesting case, Rhys Shaw, being a defender, obviously thinks he can handle that

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Many of these assistant coaches would in normal times find jobs with private schools and community leagues but I cannot see that happening.

Horrible times

3 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Shows the complete lack of understanding of the Club by many posters on here

Daniel Cross was not just the runner, he worked as part of both Misson's and Burgess'ย staff as part of the rehab team

With only 3 players in rehab at the moment, it was obviously decided he could be stood down as part of the culling

Max Rooke is a development coach, obviously something Egan can do on his own for a while, especially with Richo still there asย well

Jared Rivers at North is an interesting case, Rhys Shaw, being a defender, obviously thinks he can handle that

You are quite right to point out that Cross was more than just the runner and I apologise to him for minimising his importance. At the personal level, it's a terrible time for all the coaching and ancillary staff who are losing their jobs or being required to work reduced hours. However, I wonder whether the AFL might actually be better overall with all the mooted changes which might force clubs to become more grass roots focussed.ย Clubs might return to relying more on volunteers and members like in the past before full professionalism took over.

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Crossy is such a good bloke and has theย exact attitude that the players needed around them when he came to the club. I hope he can find his way back to our club.

Good luck to Crossy and Rooke they tried their best.

Sad to hear, he's been a fantastic person to have around the club. Given his additional role as runner is it possible he may be retained in the role exclusively for the time being and perhaps given the opportunity to come back next season in full capacity?

I'm hoping many of the younger assistants in the coaching ranks are able to stay in the game and provide for their families. With the growth in the women's game and also if draft age increases this may help in raising the profile of the state based leagues along with grass roots footy.


9 hours ago, Demonland said:

Youโ€™d assume many โ€œspecialistโ€ positions would have been cut amid all of this.ย 

Wrong assumption Stafford is still Coaching would be negligent to scrap goal kicking program!

Stood down means they are still on the books- just not being paid (probably other than JobKeeper) as there isย no work for them currently due to unforeseen and uncontrollable circumstances.

Unless they resign or are made redundant they can be reactivated when circumstances change.ย 


I hope they do and they both are able to return.

6 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

You are quite right to point out that Cross was more than just the runner and I apologise to him for minimising his importance. At the personal level, it's a terrible time for all the coaching and ancillary staff who are losing their jobs or being required to work reduced hours. However, I wonder whether the AFL might actually be better overall with all the mooted changes which might force clubs to become more grass roots focussed.ย Clubs might return to relying more on volunteers and members like in the past before full professionalism took over.

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If the bushfires taught us nothing else, we cannot rely on volunteers. The response to the virus did not come aboutย through volunteer involvement.

volunteers may be well intentioned and even well credentialed but if there is a necessity for a role it is best achieved by appointing the correct person and paying them for their output..

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10 hours ago, dpositive said:

If the bushfires taught us nothing else, we cannot rely on volunteers. The response to the virus did not come aboutย through volunteer involvement.

volunteers may be well intentioned and even well credentialed but if there is a necessity for a role it is best achieved by appointing the correct person and paying them for their output..

This assumes that there is sufficient money available to pay people. That's what this whole debate is about.

Also, I don't agree with your opening statement, unless you mean we cannot rely on volunteers by themselves. I don't have any figures, but I suspect a large proportion of the firefighting effort was undertaken by volunteers without whom the extent of damage would have been far greater.

6 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

This assumes that there is sufficient money available to pay people. That's what this whole debate is about.

Also, I don't agree with your opening statement, unless you mean we cannot rely on volunteers by themselves. I don't have any figures, but I suspect a large proportion of the firefighting effort was undertaken by volunteers without whom the extent of damage would have been far greater.

Yes I also agree with you.re "volunteers by themselves", and the effort undertaken by them.

My intention is to recognise that effort.

Money is available for executive lunches and privileges for example, examination of the tasks, the value of the performing of those tasks does need some debate. It was acknowledged after the fact that firefighters needed some recompense although I believe the actual undertaking of this pronouncement was somewhat sporadic.

Perhaps if the true cost of the firefighting and the damage avoided included a true cost for the volunteers efforts more examination of mitigation including management of the environment would happen.

its like the debate about valuing and paying for domestic duties which are not included in productivity figures but let's not go there on this forum.

Would like to meet and discuss during half time or whilstย celebrating a win.

Go Dees


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