A pertinent question I think is: Does Viney deserve to be VC?

If he’s that far back in the votes amongst his peers, then he shouldn’t just be a walk up start for VC. 
 

I honestly think it’s great that the administration has given the power to the players to decide, and if Viney isn’t no.2 then he shouldn’t be VC.

Simon Goodwin preferences a co captain model. Fact

23 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

A pertinent question I think is: Does Viney deserve to be VC?

If he’s that far back in the votes amongst his peers, then he shouldn’t just be a walk up start for VC. 
 

I honestly think it’s great that the administration has given the power to the players to decide, and if Viney isn’t no.2 then he shouldn’t be VC.

Nobody has said it's up to the players to decide except the Media. The player vote is a FACTOR in the process and it has been like this at least back to Paul Roos starting.

13 hours ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

 

Are you saying Viney had a good 2019 season?  Because he didnt

 

Third in the B&F is, by definition, a good season. Happy to defer to the coaches/match committee in their assessment of players' performance.

14 hours ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

Are you saying Viney had a good 2019 season?  Because he didnt

I wouldn’t say he had a great year, but by the very fact he finished 3rd in our B&F you can’t say he had a bad year. He would probably be the first to say he didn’t meet his standards, but to totally dismiss his placing in the B&F suggests that you aren’t seeing things that the coach and match committee rate highly. 

On 2/22/2020 at 10:06 PM, Tony Tea said:

Antinomy is an aberration. I assume you mean antithesis. 

I thought it was an element.

46 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I thought it was an element.

must admit I thought the same but it has another meaning.

What a wonderful learning resource DL is !!

 

12 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

A pertinent question I think is: Does Viney deserve to be VC?

If he’s that far back in the votes amongst his peers, then he shouldn’t just be a walk up start for VC. 
 

I honestly think it’s great that the administration has given the power to the players to decide, and if Viney isn’t no.2 then he shouldn’t be VC.

I think the opposite. I'm not convinced players can be objective enough in their assessments or necessarily understand the totality of the job.

12 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Simon Goodwin preferences a co captain model. Fact

how do you know that ?

simon goodwin would not let the world know that view... 

I love it when our club makes the right decision.

12 hours ago, bing181 said:

Third in the B&F is, by definition, a good season. Happy to defer to the coaches/match committee in their assessment of players' performance.

Third in B&F in a side finishing 17th is very average in my view! Led poorly last year. Jones saw writing on the wall and acted appropriately.

Edited February 23, 20205 yr by picket fence

12 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

I thought it was an element.

antimony not= antinomy

At this stage it is still a fact that the horse has not spoken.

Will be announced today at a press conference at 12.40. If anyone is wondering.

Edited February 23, 20205 yr by AshleyH30

On 2/23/2020 at 1:12 AM, picket fence said:

Why would they think poorly of him if the only reason is because he was a poor captain??

 

What I meant was players can get p-ssed off easily these days and with Jack becoming a RFA at season's end, we don't need him thinking he is not popular with is team mates and using that as an excuse to look elsewhere.

I don't see the problem with Gawn and Jack as Co Captains for this year and if not, hope he is VC.

Feeling slighted can affect performance also. 

That is just my view.

Edited February 24, 20205 yr by Redleg

On 2/21/2020 at 9:38 PM, TGR said:

OK

Typical Melbourne.

Viney too tough and hard to be capt of the club.

Never seen Viney shirk a contest; from Wojo to Stack.  Same can’t be said for Gawn round 1 2019.

Is this about a popularity contest within the club?  Is this about Viney setting the bar too high and being too honest?  Is this about the club trying to wipe the slate clean in relation to 2019?  Is this more about PR and media?  Is this our answer to the Grundy 7 year deal?

Throughout his captaincy, Viney always thought we were much better than we actually were.  Always took confidence from the wrong things.  Gawn's message was spot on all last yeah, even when we won.  We sucked and had a lot of work to do.  This is a great call by the club.

2 hours ago, Ohio USA - David said:

how do you know that ?

simon goodwin would not let the world know that view... 

It was his idea to introduce it. It was his preferred model. However, with the inclusion of a few new assistants, he has recognised that an individual 'sole' captain may be a better model. Stand by for announcement. 

Gawn captain, Viney vice.

No official leadership group for the rest.

Gawn named captain for 2020

TAKE THE DISCUSSION HERE: https://demonland.com/forums/topic/47737-max-gawn-is-captain-in-2020/

 

Edited February 24, 20205 yr by Demonland
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