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3 hours ago, dpositive said:

At the AGM there was an emphasis on the two oval model. Pert stated needed 16 acres to consolidate all club functions. Also stated a number of times that 16 hours of training time for players. Maybe just fixated on number 16.

Im still ambivalent on Caulfield, it still seems to have quite a few issues relying on cooperation with other parties that do not have the MFC as their primary focus. There will be compromises that may degrade the outcomes desired.

In a number of random informal conversations at the AGM it was mentioned that the club had invested a large sum on Goschs and leaving the site to another club was not ideal. That that club appears to be the Pies was even worse. MFC would be abandoning its status as the founding club at the MCG site if relocated to the recognised race track. Our history was acknowledged by Brad and recognised as a significant identity factor for the club. I see it will be difficult to establish that at a site that is so strongly identified as a racing site. it was also recognised that there is an identified population demographic that is not as diverse as an expanding and progressive club needs to grow.

A closet TJ fan maybe? Personally, I've been fixated on the number 11 for 40 years.

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2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Just drove into the racecourse mid field area and it is massive.

It is isn't it.   Very deceiving from any other vantage point. 

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Posted
7 hours ago, Farmer said:

I think the article raises many issues worthy of thought.

Gosch’s Paddock we share with Storm and Victory. Quite unsatisfactory, we must have our own space and facility. 
Waverley apparently available pre season 2026

Caulfield available when? Likely next decade. Ever heard of VCAT? Even if we have broad support, any local individual or sporting association can issue proceedings in VCAT which takes 2 years .

none of our present top line players will get to use the facilities at Caulfield. 

Hawks are leaving W because, like all AFL teams, they need 2 ovals so they are going to Dingley— further from the CBD. They are NOT leaving because of poor facilities. The facilities have enabled them to win 4 flags !
Whether we go to Caulfield or Waverley we will keep Casey ( upon which we have spent a lot ). A combination of Waverley/ Casey works fine. Surface conditions at W are apparently first rate .

Lighting? AFL players train during the daytime , not at night. Lights are needed for matches at night. There won’t be matches at night at Waverley ( or Caulfield)

when we all struggled to get to and from Waverley it was due to the fact that 20,00 to 40,000 others were trying to do likewise. Waverley is very close to the freeway, in fact easier for  most MFC supporters to get to than will be Caulfield . Admittedly there will be public transport access to C .

Ryan’s piece mentioned 2 options, buying Waverley or leasing it . I’m concerned that putting all eggs into the C  basket makes us vulnerable to pressure from anyone wanting to make the most of the situation. If my suggestions as to the drawn out timetable are accurate, why not lease Waverley for, say 3/4 years . Suck it and see. If Caulfield becomes just too hard we are not bound to it .

And finally cost! Do we really need to spend $100m for training facilities ? I suspect that the Waverley option would cost less than one third of that 

 

 

 

Totally understand that Waverley could be seen as an upgrade on our current situation allowing us to bring Admin and the Footy Dept together. But it would really only be a band-aid solution and we’d be in the same position Hawthorn have found themselves in, needing more space and eventually moving further out.

IF we can pull Caulfield off we’ll have all the space we need and (finally) our own first class admin / office and training grounds / gyms / rehab areas etc etc all together in the one CLUB. It’s a no-brainer.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Redleg said:

Just drove into the racecourse mid field area and it is massive.

It’s a huge amount of largely wasted land. It’ll be a real shame if this doesn’t go our way.

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It's not wasted,  52 years ago I used it for football training    running around twice. Was enough to get nice and warm. Then play with the footballs 

Federal league well and truly gone. Someone must run around it these days,

But yes.  I think a wasted opportunity if we let it slip 

 

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The difference with ware we train now is really only the time delay between Richmond and Caulfield. And there are express trains what 15 minutes, or less

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1 hour ago, 640MD said:

It's not wasted,  52 years ago I used it for football training    running around twice. Was enough to get nice and warm. Then play with the footballs 

Federal league well and truly gone. Someone must run around it these days,

But yes.  I think a wasted opportunity if we let it slip 

 

i think it's not so much a case of us letting it 'slip' but if it doesn't work out, it's not for want of trying

we've had three or goes at getting a home base in the last decade or so, and we feel - to me at least - like we are closer than we've been in my lifetime, and probably since the 60s

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