Training Ground?

[Demonsone 2,037]

On 11/28/2022 at 6:04 PM, Matt Demon said:

Kate Roffey did an interview on SEN this morning and the last question she was asked was about the progress of a new training facility, her response was something about the challenge is trying to find a patch of grass in the city area. It sounded to me we were back at square one.

Unbelievable & not acceptable situation when the Cats get 140 mill , tigers & Dogs 30-70 million from state gvts & we are training in a paddock! Who’s to blame here as successive administrations have failed thus far to find a solution! Going around in circles once again and a credit to coaches & players to have had premiership success in both men & women sides. Is the club that stubborn with staying in this Precinct that other opportunities have gone missing??

Edited December 3, 2022 by Demonsone

[BDA 22,743]

12 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Is the club that stubborn with staying in this Precinct that other opportunities have gone missing??

Yes

[Demonsone 2,037]

1 hour ago, BDA said:

Yes

Is that yes both ???

The question is what contract have they signed with Josh’s Paddock since the increase of size, which would suggest the club was/will be close to a training centre nearby??

Edited December 4, 2022 by Demonsone

[BDA 22,743]

1 hour ago, Demonsone said:

Is that yes both ???

The question is what contract have they signed with Josh’s Paddock since the increase of size, which would suggest the club was/will be close to a training centre nearby??

Yes to first part.

I don't know if other opportunities have definitely been missed. There is an opportunity cost in terms of wasted time. 

[kev martin 9,887]

6 hours ago, Gouga said:

You're right regarding potential to be redeveloped. We would need to displace the port football and cricket clubs...

Not the kind of ruthless move we are capable of. 

We could break with Casey, and with agreement, use Port as our VFL feeder/affiliate club. 

Gosch's and Aami to be used during cricket. 

 I reckon the reason to have a place around the MCG must be related to where they want the administration to hub.

[old dee 23,787]

2 hours ago, kev martin said:

We could break with Casey, and with agreement, use Port as our VFL feeder/affiliate club. 

Gosch's and Aami to be used during cricket. 

 I reckon the reason to have a place around the MCG must be related to where they want the administration to hub.

Port don't want to be affiliated with anyone. They want to remain a stand alone club.

[Demon Disciple 12,120]

55 minutes ago, old dee said:

Port don't want to be affiliated with anyone. They want to remain a stand alone club.

And good on them

[george_on_the_outer 7,590]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Port don't want to be affiliated with anyone. They want to remain a stand alone club.

This has been spoken about plenty of times, but the North Port oval isn't the only option.  And why would we want to step into Ports home?

Just down Williamstown road is the Murphy, Anderson reserve with 4 ovals and room for development both on the site and adjacent.  Then even further around the corner is Fishermans bend and plenty of space. Even Melbourne Grammar have their sports oval ( Flack Parkl) there.

But while we have a Board which is fixated on MCG proximity alone, these sort of options are not explored.

 

 

Edited December 4, 2022 by george_on_the_outer

[Lord Nev 13,512]

15 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Then even further around the corner is Fishermans bend and plenty of space.

Bit going on with future planning around Fishermans Bend too. I'm not a massive fan of the area in general, but you'd take it ahead of moving out to Casey.

Bernadene Voss, former Port Phillip mayor and now president of the Fishermans Bend Business Forum, said with a dearth of parkland in the area, the community would welcome any increase in green space.

“It’s the only development I’m aware of that is making significant green space on the ground for the wider community,” Voss said.

Future Docklands? Fishermans Bend ‘Miyawaki’ forest a promising step for green space

[chookrat 4,247]

Realistically there is space in the MCG precinct, the challenge is securing buy-in from the necessary stakeholders to cut through the red tape. I believe we will have first class facilities in the MCG within the next 5 - 7 years I just think we don't have the political clout to drive the process and so need to work within the process set out by the State Government.

[Deemania since 56 6,634]

On 11/17/2022 at 11:40 PM, Demonsone said:

Port Melb FC ground is ripe for development  along with all the current redevelopment of Fisherman’s bend, an expected extra 20k in population growth, not to mention Port Vfl team has the same  theme song and colours & long successful history founded in 1874 & 17 flags 

This could be a good outcome if the development funds are possible. Transport to this ground is not ideal but could be improved. I'd personally hate to lose the 'G but truly resent dual occupancy. A home ground close to the city is everything; it is an identity and singular right. We are the Mighty Demons, the Melbourne Football Club. It is about time that the truth and the acquisition details are announced, settled, achieved. 

[bandicoot 1,395]

Very little chance of getting a favour from a labor government in relation to facilities around Yarra park. 
Andrews  has a habit of endorsing funding around labor or swing districts. There is no political benefit for him to back a MFC development 

[Deemania since 56 6,634]

26 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

Very little chance of getting a favour from a labor government in relation to facilities around Yarra park. 
Andrews  has a habit of endorsing funding around labor or swing districts. There is no political benefit for him to back a MFC development 

We could make it such; he's a little bit 'Trumpish' and is sensitive to 'accolades'. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

36 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

Very little chance of getting a favour from a labor government in relation to facilities around Yarra park. 
Andrews  has a habit of endorsing funding around labor or swing districts. There is no political benefit for him to back a MFC development 

I mean, they gave us $2 million just to make Gosch's bigger so I think you're peddling agendas rather than facts here.

[rjay 24,917]

42 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I mean, they gave us $2 million just to make Gosch's bigger so I think you're peddling agendas rather than facts here.

Box Hill just got a $6mill upgrade for a VFL ground that doesn't need an upgrade...go figure.

For whatever reason we don't seem to be selling the right story.

[old dee 23,787]

4 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

This has been spoken about plenty of times, but the North Port oval isn't the only option.  And why would we want to step into Ports home?

Just down Williamstown road is the Murphy, Anderson reserve with 4 ovals and room for development both on the site and adjacent.  Then even further around the corner is Fishermans bend and plenty of space. Even Melbourne Grammar have their sports oval ( Flack Parkl) there.

But while we have a Board which is fixated on MCG proximity alone, these sort of options are not explored.

 

 

Spot on George! 

[Mach5 4,767]

Ongoing gross negligence and incompetence.

[Kent 2,909]

21 hours ago, BDA said:

Yes

So they should be in my opinion!

[layzie 33,794]

12 hours ago, chookrat said:

Realistically there is space in the MCG precinct, the challenge is securing buy-in from the necessary stakeholders to cut through the red tape. I believe we will have first class facilities in the MCG within the next 5 - 7 years I just think we don't have the political clout to drive the process and so need to work within the process set out by the State Government.

I'm just not confident we'll get big enough scissors. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

10 hours ago, rjay said:

Box Hill just got a $6mill upgrade for a VFL ground that doesn't need an upgrade...go figure.

For whatever reason we don't seem to be selling the right story.

I'm holding fire on all these kinds of conspiracies until I see what support we get once we have an actual location locked in. IMO we've had pretty decent support from the government given it's been money for stop gaps.

[durango 2,007]

If you look at some TV footage showing MFC training they actually used the Port Melbourne ground on some occasions.

[old dee 23,787]

12 hours ago, bandicoot said:

Very little chance of getting a favour from a labor government in relation to facilities around Yarra park. 
Andrews  has a habit of endorsing funding around labor or swing districts. There is no political benefit for him to back a MFC development 

Spot on,I have been saying this for years. 

[rjay 24,917]

13 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I'm holding fire on all these kinds of conspiracies until I see what support we get once we have an actual location locked in. IMO we've had pretty decent support from the government given it's been money for stop gaps.

This one's not a conspiracy 'Nev'...

...I just fail to understand how a club that pioneered football, then pioneered women's football in the AFL is not getting anything (well a pittance) where a club who didn't want anything to do with womens football now gets funding to upgrade facilities and their pitch was based on the women's game.

 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

7 minutes ago, rjay said:

This one's not a conspiracy 'Nev'...

...I just fail to understand how a club that pioneered football, then pioneered women's football in the AFL is not getting anything (well a pittance) where a club who didn't want anything to do with womens football now gets funding to upgrade facilities and their pitch was based on the women's game.

Because we haven't got a location.

[old dee 23,787]

14 hours ago, chookrat said:

Realistically there is space in the MCG precinct, the challenge is securing buy-in from the necessary stakeholders to cut through the red tape. I believe we will have first class facilities in the MCG within the next 5 - 7 years I just think we don't have the political clout to drive the process and so need to work within the process set out by the State Government.

Good luck with that, the stake holders have little if any enthusiasm for taking away green space in inner Melbourne. On top of that there are no votes to be obtained.