1 hour ago, GCDee said:

Yep Stephens looks twice the player.

Weightman is a purely a small forward, Stephens can play both the forward and back flanker roles, wing and possibly even a run through the middle.

2 hours ago, GCDee said:

Yep Stephens looks twice the player.

Stephens, Kemp, Young, Ash and Robertson are players I would happily take at 10 ahead of Weightman.

1 hour ago, Fifty-5 said:

If we bid Green at 3 the best move for GWS if they want to match is to trade 4 for a 2019 pick in the teens and a 2020 1st rounder.  That way only the 2019 pick and later picks get swallowed up and the 2020 1st is quarantined. No doubt they will have this contingency pre organised if they plan to match.

Could that put them in trouble next year though? As in, do they have a similar academy player to think about then? There's a heap of them next year isn't there?

 

not thilled with this constant trying to split the picks and take us further down the pecking order. we only have a very limited number of slots available. we should be taking the best players we can. Quality not quantity.

5 minutes ago, Deecisive said:

not thilled with this constant trying to split the picks and take us further down the pecking order. we only have a very limited number of slots available. we should be taking the best players we can. Quality not quantity.

Would you rather fill our list spots with first and second round picks, or one top pick and a bunch of rookies? If anyone should know about not putting all the eggs in one basket, it's Dees fans.

29 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Stephens, Kemp, Young, Ash and Robertson are players I would happily take at 10 ahead of Weightman.

Agreed. I really hope we don't split 10 again, I doubt we will be in a position to get 2 top picks in for quite some time this draft could really set us up of for a real flag tilt. 

Could Pickett slide to 28 or is that way to optimistic? 

3 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Could that put them in trouble next year though? As in, do they have a similar academy player to think about then? There's a heap of them next year isn't there?

 

My uncle coaches the Sydney under 17 northern development squad and he said the Swans have 2 players coming through next year as good as Heeney. I've shared this before and will try and track down the names, not that it really bothers us I suppose

38 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Could that put them in trouble next year though? As in, do they have a similar academy player to think about then? There's a heap of them next year isn't there?

 

I'm not sure how having an extra 1st round pick next year is a disadvantage?

2 hours ago, Josh said:

My uncle coaches the Sydney under 17 northern development squad and he said the Swans have 2 players coming through next year as good as Heeney. I've shared this before and will try and track down the names, not that it really bothers us I suppose

16 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I'm not sure how having an extra 1st round pick next year is a disadvantage?

That's why I was asking questions about the specifics of next year's academy picks. Just wondering who they have coming through, and if it just means their first rounders get burned next year anyway in the same they would this year. Hopefully that makes sense?

Edited November 22, 20195 yr by Lord Nev

How tall is he?

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

That's why I was asking questions about the specifics of next year's academy picks. Just wondering who they have coming through, and if it just means their first rounders get burned next year anyway in the same they would this year. Hopefully that makes sense?

They traded their 2020 1st to Adelaide in the deal for 4.  Getting a 2020 1st back offers flexibility and scope next year and is far better than trading down for 2 picks this year that would definitely be swallowed up if they match.

7 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

They traded their 2020 1st to Adelaide in the deal for 4.  Getting a 2020 1st back offers flexibility and scope next year and is far better than trading down for 2 picks this year that would definitely be swallowed up if they match.

My question was about what their academy player status is expected to be next year though. I get what you're saying, but was interested to weigh up the chances of it pending what they have planned to do/need for next year. Cheers.

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

My question was about what their academy player status is expected to be next year though. I get what you're saying, but was interested to weigh up the chances of it pending what they have planned to do/need for next year. Cheers.

They have Green’s brother, Josh, available next year. He played in the U17 All Stars futures game this year

7 minutes ago, Males said:

They have Green’s brother, Josh, available next year. He played in the U17 All Stars futures game this year

Wow! I know brother's don't always end up playing together, but that's an intriguing point. Thanks.

4 hours ago, GCDee said:

Agreed. I really hope we don't split 10 again, I doubt we will be in a position to get 2 top picks in for quite some time this draft could really set us up of for a real flag tilt. 

Could Pickett slide to 28 or is that way to optimistic? 

Cal Twomey said a couple of weeks ago Pickett would be out in the 30s, he said this week he'd be late teens. Who knows. Fingers crossed I guess

4 hours ago, Josh said:

My uncle coaches the Sydney under 17 northern development squad and he said the Swans have 2 players coming through next year as good as Heeney. I've shared this before and will try and track down the names, not that it really bothers us I suppose

Are you hinting around p5, for 10 and a couple of future picks?

11 hours ago, ProDee said:

As I said, I'll be surprised and exceedingly disappointed if we took Weightman at 10.

He's simply not a top 10 talent.

One skill that I believe  you are underestimating about Weightman PD is his goal sense.

Boy do we need a smaller type busy bee and in oppo face which I believe is Cody's mantra.

Henry is best but Cody 2nd if we are to balance out team on forward skill.

Pickett might have more tricks and he is ferocious as well but may not be there at 28. Also do we want both?

That is assuming that we don't do any more pick splitting.

Happy for Jackson or Young at 3 and Weightman 10 and Pickett / best Key Position player left at 28.

97 or about 70 may be a surprise VFL or SANFL or left field  type Like a AVB..

Thats a fair haul if you then add Harley and Brown Maybe Sokol from WAFL and on top of Langdon and Tomlinson.

"New recruits" like AVB Neitschke Joel Smith And Hannan And KK Lever And May even Melksham Tom Mac  and Jetta all fit and firing would make an unbelievable difference to skill confidence and ability to see out games and follow a decent game plan that must be implemented for success.

Coaching snd Fitness seems to be going to a new  level. Am intrigued by Alan Richo's role. Under wraps and bit like Brendan Mac over the board.

And not a Basket Case in sight I might add!!

 

My gut feel is that we will pick Draft bolters Jackson and Pickett at 3 and 10.

Best available at 28.

Jeremy Sharp would be a good get at 28.

3 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

Jeremy Sharp would be a good get at 28.

Yes he would very good ball user, and flourished in the seniors at East Freo after the Championships

20 hours ago, SwissDee said:

Cal Twomey said a couple of weeks ago Pickett would be out in the 30s, he said this week he'd be late teens. Who knows. Fingers crossed I guess

 

Surely this was based on an expectation we’d split 8 for picks in the teens.

I think we expect Pickett to be there at 28.

On 11/22/2019 at 3:10 PM, Pennant St Dee said:

Hope we hold it, speaking to a few in recruiting and development in WA word is top 6 to 10 in this draft are rated a lot higher than the next 20-25 who they still feel are ahead of next seasons batch.

I think the needs basis of the clubs in front of us will see one of Ash/Young (i expect GWS to take either at 4), Kemp, Serong or Stephens to be there at 10.

I'm happy to take a Jeremy Sharp or Elijah Taylor with 28

Any chance at all Freo don't take Robertson, mate?

2 hours ago, A F said:

Any chance at all Freo don't take Robertson, mate?

Can't see it unless Sydney or Adelaide spring a couple of surprises 

I feel in these situations and it's definitely strange to go from a Prelim to 17th you can afford a little bit of room to take a risk with those picks. 

however, i would only do that with 1. if we take Jackson we should take best avaliable at 10 

if we take Green or Young we should be able to take a weightman or Pickett a little early if that's who we really want. 

I see a bit of the MFC trying to be too clever in this.