old dee 24,097 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said: You must be one of the few who has, Cheap Deal? I like my car's to have a bit of grunt and nothing got close in my price range. Also think they are under rated. All of a sudden is not cool to own a Holden. But my black beauty goes well and rocks my boat when I look at it the drive way. 5 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,514 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, old dee said: I like my car's to have a bit of grunt and nothing got close in my price range. Also think they are under rated. All of a sudden is not cool to own a Holden. But my black beauty goes well and rocks my boat when I look at it the drive way. Well that’s what counts. I think GM were wrong to continue the Holden Badge on European Opels. Many Holden owners find the whole thing offensive Ford were smart. The Mustang was already an icon 1 Quote
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, old dee said: I like my car's to have a bit of grunt and nothing got close in my price range. Also think they are under rated. All of a sudden is not cool to own a Holden. But my black beauty goes well and rocks my boat when I look at it the drive way. Is that a good thing? Sounds dangerous to me. Quote
AllMyTeamsAreWank 564 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: Well that’s what counts. I think GM were wrong to continue the Holden Badge on European Opels. Many Holden owners find the whole thing offensive Ford were smart. The Mustang was already an icon If the Ranger didn't sell, Ford would be in a much worse position than Holden. It's the only car they can sell. 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,514 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, AllMyTeamsAreWank said: If the Ranger didn't sell, Ford would be in a much worse position than Holden. It's the only car they can sell. Both the Ranger and The Mustang are selling. I don’t think the Commodore is at all, partly because of its name. Rusted on GMH customers won’t touch them 1 Quote
Satyriconhome 10,880 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 I tried to get the Club interested in Razor or Micro, but scooters don't do well in snow 1 2 Quote
jnrmac 20,393 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, old dee said: it surprises me why some car companies bother with sponsorship of AFL teams. Take Jeep as an example in spite of being with Richmond for the last five years and winning 2 flags their sales continue to dive. You could say what would their sales be without Richmond? The same IMO. Exposure OD. Brand building, Recognition. Demographics Premierships are nice but its not all about that for sponsors, 1 Quote
old dee 24,097 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, jnrmac said: Exposure OD. Brand building, Recognition. Demographics Premierships are nice but its not all about that for sponsors, Spent all my working life in sales and if it does not sell more you don't do it. 1 1 Quote
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 5 hours ago, old dee said: it surprises me why some car companies bother with sponsorship of AFL teams. Take Jeep as an example in spite of being with Richmond for the last five years and winning 2 flags their sales continue to dive. You could say what would their sales be without Richmond? The same IMO. Imagine actually choosing to buy a Jeep. Easily the worst least reliable cars on the market. 1 Quote
sisso 2,647 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 Spotting a new Jag on the road is a fairly rare event At that price point most people buy a BMW Quote
ManDee 7,412 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 12 hours ago, old dee said: Spent all my working life in sales and if it does not sell more you don't do it. When I was studying marketing (a long time ago) they said that "We know that about half of all advertising works, but nobody knows which half" 1 Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 12 hours ago, old dee said: Spent all my working life in sales and if it does not sell more you don't do it. Sales: "we need to sell more sh*t" Accountant: "sounds good to me" Marketing: "we need to increase our brand awareness, leverage our synergy, innovate across our categories, and become an integral part of our customers' success stories. Oh yes, and something something social media." Accountant: "well ... if you say so ... it sounds like bulldust to me ..." Marketing: "and we'll get a corporate box at the G" Accountant: "deal" 1 Quote
AllMyTeamsAreWank 564 Posted November 8, 2019 Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said: Both the Ranger and The Mustang are selling. I don’t think the Commodore is at all, partly because of its name. Rusted on GMH customers won’t touch them They sold 437 Mustangs in September, not exactly huge numbers. Ranger they absolutely knock out of the park. If they sold them at Colorado numbers they would be in serious strife. Every single one of their other carlines are terrible sellers. Holden has given up on Commodore and is pretty much just waiting for its commitments to Opel to expire out so it can stop importing them. Full disclosure, I work for Holden. Edited November 8, 2019 by AllMyTeamsAreWank 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,514 Posted November 8, 2019 Posted November 8, 2019 37 minutes ago, AllMyTeamsAreWank said: They sold 437 Mustangs in September, not exactly huge numbers. Ranger they absolutely knock out of the park. If they sold them at Colorado numbers they would be in serious strife. Every single one of their other carlines are terrible sellers. Holden has given up on Commodore and is pretty much just waiting for its commitments to Opel to expire out so it can stop importing them. Full disclosure, I work for Holden. I am glad the Commodore is going. It is almost offensive to see them on the road, considering what they really are. i see heaps of Mustangs on the road where i live, so i am only going on sight, that said, they do get noticed. Rangers probably pass me all day, i don’t notice them. They are a fake 4wd that have sadly killed the wagon. And are much harder to get in and out of for older people. Quote
daisycutter 30,030 Posted November 8, 2019 Posted November 8, 2019 how long has jonesy been wearing a yarmulke? 1 Quote
Clintosaurus 7,961 Posted November 8, 2019 Posted November 8, 2019 14 hours ago, sisso said: Spotting a new Jag on the road is a fairly rare event Actually saw one last night here in Hobart. Beautiful looking car. Quote
Youngwilliam 381 Posted November 8, 2019 Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said: I am glad the Commodore is going. It is almost offensive to see them on the road, considering what they really are. i see heaps of Mustangs on the road where i live, so i am only going on sight, that said, they do get noticed. Rangers probably pass me all day, i don’t notice them. They are a fake 4wd that have sadly killed the wagon. And are much harder to get in and out of for older people. The VB Commodore shared the same design as the Opel. 1977 Opel Commodore was a thing before we produced them in Australia. And now that GM have sold Opel to Peugeot, that will stop Holden badges going on Opels. Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,514 Posted November 8, 2019 Posted November 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, Youngwilliam said: The VB Commodore shared the same design as the Opel. 1977 Opel Commodore was a thing before we produced them in Australia. And now that GM have sold Opel to Peugeot, that will stop Holden badges going on Opels. Yes i know the history of the original Commodores. They needed Australian running gear in them, to survive out here, even if they looked the same. Were never that good towing heavy loads (the chassis would often bend in the middle). The Commodore became Australian and it is sad they were discontinued. The final Commodore was an excellent Car. I bought Mazda Rotary’s back when Australian’s didn’t know what they were. They were great days Always loved the Jaguar though, and very happy (albeit a little suprised) they have stuck with us for another year. Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,782 Posted November 8, 2019 Posted November 8, 2019 As an aside Jaguar are owned by Tata a massive Indian conglomerate. I think it's now run by the grandchildren of the original founder. Almost every truck in India is a Tata. Anyway not so many years ago (2008) Tata announced that they would build a car for the masses of India that would be very affordable. Price around $2k. They called it the Nano. In 2018 the project was cancelled after selling three cars. It out Edselled the Edsell not to mention the P76. 1 1 1 Quote
darkhorse72 1,949 Posted November 8, 2019 Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 11:25 AM, Sir Why You Little said: You must be one of the few who has, Cheap Deal? More Merc's than Holdens were sold in the last year! Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,514 Posted November 9, 2019 Posted November 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Darkhorse72 said: More Merc's than Holdens were sold in the last year! Not suprised at all, if that happened Quote
blue and red in the head 95 Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 So now that jag have signed on will we be wearing the same jumper next year? And if not when will the 2020 jumper be available? Quote
AllMyTeamsAreWank 564 Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 11:04 AM, Sir Why You Little said: Not suprised at all, if that happened Not true, but not as far from the truth as I would like Quote
Demon Disciple 12,545 Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, blue and red in the head said: So now that jag have signed on will we be wearing the same jumper next year? And if not when will the 2020 jumper be available? I would've thought it would be the same as this years. Seems odd going into a new season with the same jumper Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,514 Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, AllMyTeamsAreWank said: Not true, but not as far from the truth as I would like Neck and Neck? German Cars are all over Melbourne now VW, Mercedes, Audi and Porsche. where are the GM products? Seriously i see about 2 a week now. Quote
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