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  On 25/11/2019 at 00:15, Patches O’houlihan said:

we don't generally leak this much either so i wouldn't be at all surprised if we went totally differently to what's been mocked. 

We don't leak at all these days, so maybe it is journos looking at our needs and making assumptions?

 
  On 25/11/2019 at 00:48, Clintosaurus said:

We don't leak at all these days, so maybe it is journos looking at our needs and making assumptions?

I think it will be other recruiters talking. As has been said a few times, recruiters generally won't talk about their plans but are happy to talk about other clubs plans.

How close to the truth they are, who knows?

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      On 25/11/2019 at 00:48, Clintosaurus said:

    We don't leak at all these days, so maybe it is journos looking at our needs and making assumptions?

    It's never clubs telling the journos who they are going to take. It's managers and other clubs telling journos who they think another club will pick based on their contact with the players. Every club would be asking each player they talk to which other clubs they have been talking to.

     

    The only thing we really know is Jason Taylor has said. 

    the three players we rate high enough for pick 3 are Luke Jackson, Hayden Young and Tom Green 

    He said we wouldn't trade pick 8 unless we were 100% sure we'd get our guy at pick 10 

    so the conclusion i make is either we were never interested in Hayden Young from the start an he wasn't telling the truth 

    or 

    we are supremely confident he will get through to 10 

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      On 25/11/2019 at 00:48, Clintosaurus said:

    We don't leak at all these days, so maybe it is journos looking at our needs and making assumptions?

    No one would have us taking Jackson at 3, not one journo or draft expert had Jackson anywhere near top 3.

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      On 25/11/2019 at 00:57, Patches O’houlihan said:

    The only thing we really know is Jason Taylor has said. 

    the three players we rate high enough for pick 3 are Luke Jackson, Hayden Young and Tom Green 

    He said we wouldn't trade pick 8 unless we were 100% sure we'd get our guy at pick 10 

    so the conclusion i make is either we were never interested in Hayden Young from the start an he wasn't telling the truth 

    or 

    we are supremely confident he will get through to 10 

    Or we're supremely confident he wouldn't get through to 8.

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    I wouldn't take much notice of Buckenara.  Great player, but a lightweight who now can't get a gig within the industry.

    In fact, he's recently been sacked by both the North Ballarat Roosters and the Frankston Dolphins.  Hardly a glowing endorsement.

    Edited by ProDee

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    Doerre's latest take although they are saying his 'final' update will be out tomorrow so might not be much new here...Green gets a glowing review.  Likens Young to a Paddy Ryder style ruckman.

    Check out Schoenburg also...one of the more under-rated mids imho from the u18s.  Ranked 27th in this guide only a month ago, now into 15th.  Guy is all class and a beautiful mover away from congestion...very quick thinker & slick with the disposal...

    https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/28148905/afl-draft-power-rankings-late-bolters-make-their-run

    Edited by Rusty Nails

     
      On 25/11/2019 at 00:48, Clintosaurus said:

    We don't leak at all these days, so maybe it is journos looking at our needs and making assumptions?

    This is no longer correct. 2-3 years ago we didn't leak, I couldn't get anything at all from contacts at the club! This year past 12 months or so are different and there's definitely leaks now. I can now get decent info from contacts at the club.

      On 25/11/2019 at 03:39, ProDee said:

    I wouldn't take much notice of Buckenara.  Great player, but a lightweight who now can't get a gig within the industry.

    In fact, he's recently been sacked by both the North Ballarat Roosters and the Frankston Dolphins.  Hardly a glowing endorsement.

    100% correct. He's a muppet who says outlandish things to try and get into the media. Just look at his list ratings for a bloody good laugh. Apparently the Wagners are better than Viney and Lever ?

     

    I can't wait for this draft period to be done so we can stop with all this rubbish and get on with reloading for 2020 after such a pathetic showing this year!

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      On 25/11/2019 at 04:17, Lord Travis said:

    This is no longer correct. 2-3 years ago we didn't leak, I couldn't get anything at all from contacts at the club! This year past 12 months or so are different and there's definitely leaks now. I can now get decent info from contacts at the club.

    100% correct. He's a muppet who says outlandish things to try and get into the media. Just look at his list ratings for a bloody good laugh. Apparently the Wagners are better than Viney and Lever ?

     

    I can't wait for this draft period to be done so we can stop with all this rubbish and get on with reloading for 2020 after such a pathetic showing this year!

    I actually agree with Clint here LT. We have not leaked anything of substance for a couple of years now. Gotta be honest, it kinda pisses me off that we dont because i would love to hear some developments on our home base. 

    If you are being told things, and they are not making the forums, then i have a brickbat for your source and a bouquet for you.

     

     

    *please tell me you have heard something positive about a permanent home? Inbox if its too secret to be made public :)

    Edited by ding
    typo

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      On 24/11/2019 at 21:52, MikeAlphaTango said:

    True Footy's Phantom Draft

    Pick 1: Gold Coast Suns
    Matthew Rowell (VIC)
    Pick 2: Gold Coast Suns
    Noah Anderson (VIC)
    Pick 3: Melbourne
    Luke Jackson (WA)
    Pick 4: GWS Giants
    Lachie Ash (VIC)
    Pick 5: GWS Giants (MATCHING SYD BID)
    Tom Green (NSW)
    Pick 6: Sydney Swans
    Deven Robertson (WA)
    Pick 7: Adelaide Crows
    Fisher McAsey (SA)
    Pick 8: Fremantle
    Hayden Young (VIC)
    Pick 9: Fremantle
    Dylan Stephens (SA)
    Pick 10: Carlton
    Sam Flanders (VIC)
    Pick 11: Fremantle (MATCHING MELB BID)
    Liam Henry (WA)
    Pick 12: Melbourne
    Kysaiah Pickett (SA)
    Pick 13: Hawthorn
    Brodie Kemp (VIC)
    Pick 14: Port Adelaide
    Caleb Serong (VIC)
    Pick 15: Western Bulldogs
    Cody Weightman (VIC)
    Pick 16: Geelong
    Miles Bergman (VIC)
    Pick 17: Gold Coast Suns
    Will Day (SA)
    Pick 18: Port Adelaide
    Trent Bianco (VIC)
    Pick 19: Geelong
    Josh Worrell (VIC)
    Pick 20: Port Adelaide
    Jeremy Sharp (WA)

    Wouldn't pick Pickett in front of Serong or Kemp

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      On 25/11/2019 at 04:41, Pennant St Dee said:

    Wouldn't puck Pickett in front of Serong or Kemp

    I think that is more a stab at which players are likely to go where given needs and jungle drums PSD.

    Giving GWS a second stab at a top 5 player is a crime and for mere insurance we must bid on Green.  If we get him even better.  He is easily top 3 material from what i witnessed after giving the u18 replays a fair shake.

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      On 25/11/2019 at 04:47, demonstone said:

     Unfortunate typo there, PSD ... or rhyming slang?

    Or possibly some Kiwi heritage?

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    Another thing i'd add is the Giants are crying out for a small forward. so if they do get  a bonus top 5 pick that might well be something they look at. Serong is probably one they could take who could make a quick impact as a forward. 


    While I support Taylor, I have this gnawing feeling, that Pickett could be another Dion Johnstone, while Kemp becomes a Fyfe/Cripps/Dangerfield type. 

    If Kemp is what he is described as I would take him and look for a small forward with our last pick.

    A strong, tall, quick mid, is far more value imo, than a small forward and harder to come by.

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      On 25/11/2019 at 00:48, Clintosaurus said:

    We don't leak at all these days, so maybe it is journos looking at our needs and making assumptions?

    I don't think this really applies come draft time - mock drafts in the media are generally pretty spot on a week out from the draft (especially for the first round). Clubs might still be weighing up certain picks, but if all the phantom drafts have us taking Pickett, at worst it means we are strongly considering him. 

      On 25/11/2019 at 04:58, Redleg said:

    While I support Taylor, I have this gnawing feeling, that Pickett could be another Dion Johnstone, while Kemp becomes a Fyfe/Cripps/Dangerfield type. 

    If Kemp is what he is described as I would take him and look for a small forward with our last pick.

    A strong, tall, quick mid, is far more value imo, than a small forward and harder to come by.

    Whilst I support Redleg, I have a gnawing feeling that Pickett could be another Eddie Betts whilst Kemp becomes an Anthony Morabito/Blake Acres type.

    ?

    Edited by Axis of Bob

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      On 25/11/2019 at 05:03, Axis of Bob said:

    Whilst I support Redleg, I have a gnawing feeling that Pickett could be another Eddie Betts whilst Kemp becomes an Anthony Morabito/Blake Acres type.

    ?

    For once Bob, I hope your feeling is right and mine is wrong.

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      On 25/11/2019 at 00:57, Patches O’houlihan said:

    The only thing we really know is Jason Taylor has said. 

    the three players we rate high enough for pick 3 are Luke Jackson, Hayden Young and Tom Green 

    He said we wouldn't trade pick 8 unless we were 100% sure we'd get our guy at pick 10 

    so the conclusion i make is either we were never interested in Hayden Young from the start an he wasn't telling the truth 

    or 

    we are supremely confident he will get through to 10 

    If we believe all the Young @ 3 chatter and the True Footy phantom, by giving up 8 we have effectively handed Freo an extra free hit probably giving them Young, Stephens & Henry.

    What a haul of outside finish / talent and three of the best ball users in this draft.  Huge win for them.

    Edited by Rusty Nails

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    How could we take Pickett if Robertson and Kemp are both still there?

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    Interesting that he thinks a bid for Green won't come until our second pick.

    Edit: No Sharp in the top 30 and states Rivers is a chance to slide to our pick. Would be very happy with either of those two.

    Edited by Nascent

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      On 25/11/2019 at 06:52, Rusty Nails said:

    The final call...

    Cal Twomey's 2019 Phantom Draft: Top 30, your club's whispers -

    http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-11-25/cal-twomeys-2019-phantom-draft-top-30-your-clubs-whispers

    I’d be disgusted with the club if it panned out that way.

    Edited by Lord Travis

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    There is absolutely no chance the Swans will decide not to bid on Green with their first pick. 

     

     

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