poita 3,945 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said: It’s looking like Jackson & Pickett is a lay down misere ~ The early mail: Who YOUR AFL club is considering drafting in the first round That would be an absolute, unmitigated disaster that will set this club back years and years. It breaks every drafting rule in the book. 1 2
Rednblueriseing 868 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said: We've had mixed results. Yes, the jury is still out on the Weid, while we've reached for others like Lucas Cook and Luke Molan when we didn't need to. However, even though it was the mini draft, we nailed the Hogan pick, plucked an AA ruckman out of the third round of the draft, got Tom McDonald with an even later pick... and so on. While I'm only just beginning to warm to the potential selection of Jackson, I can understand the reasoning. As much as we want to, Gawny can't play forever. We can see the influence he and guys like Grundy have and we can draft Jackson and give him time to develop into the player we want him to be. I agree with your comments, however with guys like Maxy, Oliver, Brayshaw, Petrecca, Viney all in or entering their prime, think we need to focus on the now and snag a premiership, before waiting for more players to develop. Pick 3 should be a gun like Chris Judd, or Dangerfield 1
Kent 2,920 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Wiseblood said: We've had mixed results. Yes, the jury is still out on the Weid, while we've reached for others like Lucas Cook and Luke Molan when we didn't need to. However, even though it was the mini draft, we nailed the Hogan pick, plucked an AA ruckman out of the third round of the draft, got Tom McDonald with an even later pick... and so on. While I'm only just beginning to warm to the potential selection of Jackson, I can understand the reasoning. As much as we want to, Gawny can't play forever. We can see the influence he and guys like Grundy have and we can draft Jackson and give him time to develop into the player we want him to be. I cannot understand Jackson at 3 please explain if you can? 1
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said: I agree with your comments, however with guys like Maxy, Oliver, Brayshaw, Petrecca, Viney all in or entering their prime, think we need to focus on the now and snag a premiership, before waiting for more players to develop. Pick 3 should be a gun like Chris Judd, or Dangerfield I think we would all love a Judd or Dangerfield, but let's be realistic here. Those guys don't grow on trees. It seems as though the club potentially believes that Jackson can play senior footy next year, and if we select Pickett at 10, we would be right to assume they believe he can play senior footy in 2020 as well. Those guys you mentioned are entering their primes. No doubt about it. But, outside of Max, they all still have plenty of footy left in them and Jackson will have more than enough time to be part of that push for a flag.
MikeAlphaTango 150 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 True Footy's Phantom Draft Pick 1: Gold Coast Suns Matthew Rowell (VIC) Pick 2: Gold Coast Suns Noah Anderson (VIC) Pick 3: Melbourne Luke Jackson (WA) Pick 4: GWS Giants Lachie Ash (VIC) Pick 5: GWS Giants (MATCHING SYD BID) Tom Green (NSW) Pick 6: Sydney Swans Deven Robertson (WA) Pick 7: Adelaide Crows Fisher McAsey (SA) Pick 8: Fremantle Hayden Young (VIC) Pick 9: Fremantle Dylan Stephens (SA) Pick 10: Carlton Sam Flanders (VIC) Pick 11: Fremantle (MATCHING MELB BID) Liam Henry (WA) Pick 12: Melbourne Kysaiah Pickett (SA) Pick 13: Hawthorn Brodie Kemp (VIC) Pick 14: Port Adelaide Caleb Serong (VIC) Pick 15: Western Bulldogs Cody Weightman (VIC) Pick 16: Geelong Miles Bergman (VIC) Pick 17: Gold Coast Suns Will Day (SA) Pick 18: Port Adelaide Trent Bianco (VIC) Pick 19: Geelong Josh Worrell (VIC) Pick 20: Port Adelaide Jeremy Sharp (WA)
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Kent said: I cannot understand Jackson at 3 please explain if you can? The final paragraph of my post explained it...
brendan 3,458 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, poita said: That would be an absolute, unmitigated disaster that will set this club back years and years. It breaks every drafting rule in the book. What rules are we breaking exactly? 1
JakovichScissorKick 771 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, poita said: That would be an absolute, unmitigated disaster that will set this club back years and years. It breaks every drafting rule in the book. Its either very brave or very stupid.
chook fowler 19,778 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 the picks we look like taking seem speculative at best. It's a high stakes game. Hope they have got a solid foundation for their decision.
ManDee 7,395 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 The angst about speculated picks amuses me. I suggest that no one on this forum knows who Melbourne will pick. I doubt that anyone in the media knows. It is possible that we have not even made a final decision yet. As a club we don't leak anymore and if news comes out it is intended. So why the angst? 3
Josh 1,420 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, poita said: That would be an absolute, unmitigated disaster that will set this club back years and years. It breaks every drafting rule in the book. Your right, because drafting Watts, Scully and Trengove, which were the unanimous best selections that year, worked out fantastic. They are kids, who knows what they are, or aren't capable of. 7
mfcrox 143 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 I remember a lot of "Why did we take Oliver?" comments a few years ago. "Overweight, did even make Vic. Country, blah blah blah". I'm backing Taylor and gang to get it right here... even if it is an 'unconventional' pick. 4
drdrake 3,203 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, mfcrox said: I remember a lot of "Why did we take Oliver?" comments a few years ago. "Overweight, did even make Vic. Country, blah blah blah". I'm backing Taylor and gang to get it right here... even if it is an 'unconventional' pick. Can you clarify, Oliver and who else has he drafted. We haven't had a rising star nomination for 2 years 1 1
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 Just now, drdrake said: Can you clarify, Oliver and who else has he drafted. We haven't had a rising star nomination for 2 years And?
drysdale demon 4,837 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, drdrake said: Can you clarify, Oliver and who else has he drafted. We haven't had a rising star nomination for 2 years So the rising star nominations is what clubs should be striving for?
drysdale demon 4,837 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, poita said: That would be an absolute, unmitigated disaster that will set this club back years and years. It breaks every drafting rule in the book. Time to console yourself Eric, so eat a Banana.
SFebes 4,884 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, drdrake said: Can you clarify, Oliver and who else has he drafted. We haven't had a rising star nomination for 2 years Gysberts went well with that theory.
Dees247 140 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, drdrake said: Can you clarify, Oliver and who else has he drafted. We haven't had a rising star nomination for 2 years We haven’t had a 1st rounder in those 2 years 1
drdrake 3,203 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said: And? Everyone is backing Taylor on the back of 1 draft pick, who else has he drafted out of the box that is playing above expectations, it is a massive risk taking Jackson at 3 a West Aussie that most experts have outside the top 10. Go and look at who we have drafted outside Oliver from the 2015 draft onwards 4 drafts not much else 1
roy11 4,076 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, drdrake said: Can you clarify, Oliver and who else has he drafted. We haven't had a rising star nomination for 2 years to be fair we gave a away picks at the pointy end for Lever/May etc. Got a picks in the top 30 so hoping that changes next year (not that noms are the be all and end all etc)
brendan 3,458 Posted November 25, 2019 Posted November 25, 2019 Some of the comments are amusing, Jackson and Pickett are not worth these picks yet the clubs picking directly after will consider drafting the same player, if we don’t take Jackson GWS Will and if we don’t take picket he will be gone before pick 15 10
roy11 4,076 Posted November 25, 2019 Posted November 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, brendan said: Some of the comments are amusing, Jackson and Pickett are not worth these picks yet the clubs picking directly after will consider drafting the same player, if we don’t take Jackson GWS Will and if we don’t take picket he will be gone before pick 15 Damned if you don't, Damned if you do. Fitting for a team called the Demons 2
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted November 25, 2019 Posted November 25, 2019 we don't generally leak this much either so i wouldn't be at all surprised if we went totally differently to what's been mocked. 2
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted November 25, 2019 Posted November 25, 2019 Sometimes drafts just aren't that good. If you look at the 2017 draft there are a lot of ordinary players taken high in the first round. Maybe this could be a year like that and that's why we are going for something different.
Kent 2,920 Posted November 25, 2019 Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, mfcrox said: I remember a lot of "Why did we take Oliver?" comments a few years ago. "Overweight, did even make Vic. Country, blah blah blah". I'm backing Taylor and gang to get it right here... even if it is an 'unconventional' pick. We haven't selected a superstar for ages why would you back Taylor unequivocally now? 1
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