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POSTMATCH: Rd 19 vs St. Kilda

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  On 27/07/2019 at 12:47, Webber said:

Wow. You guys just don’t get it. Read carefully.....total games unavailable from the WHOLE list have a near to linear relationship to ladder position across a season. It’s NOT my opinion, it’s a stat, a fact, not a theory. 

So our inept skills, non existent game plan, and clueless game day coaching, have nothing to do with it?

Whew! What a relief.

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:32, dees189227 said:

     

    Anyway Im going to cheer myself up and go to you tube and look at highlights from the 2 final victories last year. Just remind myself that we were a good team and we actually put geelong and the hawks out of the finals and I wasn't dreaming it. 

    Good god are you insane ? Like Anthony kiedes says in point break - that would be a waste of time

    real athletes currently heading up to val thorens in Le tour

     

     

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    There is no rectification. Our recruiting is diabolical. How is it possible to have so many bad players. There is simply no easy fix but years of pain and drafting. How has it got so bad. Who is accountable? The decline in membership will be devastating but who can blame people. If the Suns improve we will finish last next year.

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    Enough is enough really. That was a depressing night at the footy and considering every week has been that is saying something. I see a few people are leaving the country, I honestly wish I was. Football this year has been a complete and utter waste of time and I say that about the league in general. I'd love to sit here and look for the positives but sometimes you just have to call a spade and spade and acknowledge that you physically cannot polish a turd. 

    Midfield - Slow, picks when they want to run. This group doesn't get us there, we all know it can be good but it needs tweaking and we all know it.

    Wagners - Honest goers, not gonna win us a flag.

    ANB - The best heatmap in football, yay.

    Co- captains - Not the worst but definitely show 50% leadership each right now.

    Jayden Hunt - You look ready for the footy trip mate. Token tackling, token decision making, token effort.

    Oscar Mac - I've backed you a lot and will not pile on but you seem allergic to phsycial contact. Granted you played on decent forwards but seriously the effort is not where it needs to be. 

    Petty was a plus. I would have loved them to shift him back to Bruce or Membrey because if we were going to lose this flub of a game at least someone like him could get some good learning in whereas I don't know if Omac is gonna learn much more getting torched repeatedly and possibly could use a stint up forward. 

    We were great last season absolutely, but we over performed. Our list was never a top 4 list it was a 5-8 at best. This is very much about the mid tier. Everyone has list cloggers but we have too many, simple. Hard decisions to be made, possibly a trade or 2 that gets us arm in arms is necessary. We need to send the message that 2020 will not come automatically. 

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    Goodwin: We were outplayed for majority of the night. In the end, we were lucky to be in it. Our decision-making and fundamentals are just stressing our game.

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    The players are scarred and it is going to be a massive job to fix. Some wont get over it, others will get sick of it. Standby for big offers coming our star players way. Max and Oliver in particular.

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:19, Gorgoroth said:

    Here is a positive.

    In 6 days I fly to Europe, my season is done. Later fuxkers!

    Lucky bastard. I have 2 more games then I’m off overseas. Opposite time zone means no footy! 

     

      On 27/07/2019 at 12:31, Webber said:

    So the fact that we have had the most players unavailable week to week of any club this season, and up to round 12 (it could be still) of any club in the AFL EVER means nothing to you over-reactive clowns? The single most reliable stat to predict a club’s ladder position is players unavailable week to week, thus through a season. Not speculation or supposition....this is fact. Nobody wants to talk about it because it takes the art discussion out of the game. We are where we are because week to week we have been playing with a decimated list. Brisbane are 2nd for the opposite reason. 

    Nobody can deny injuries and lack of fitness have ruined our season. And to be honest if we finished 9th-12th you’d say ok we’ve been so unlucky what a shocking year. But come on, injuries alone cannot be blamed for a 4 win season. Our midfield has been intact all year. Yes they have been down on fitness due to post season surgeries, but as a whole we’ve had a good run with midfield injuries. The backline has suffered and so has our forwardline. It is absolutely the reason for some of our performance, but you can’t keep hiding behind injuries when we are staring at a bottom 2 finish. Our skills, our game plan, our lack of defensive running, it is all deplorable. 

    I repeat injuries have ruined our season. But even injuries as bad as ours don’t simply cause a team to go from 4th to 17th. 

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:55, Deesprate said:

    There is no rectification. Our recruiting is diabolical. How is it possible to have so many bad players. There is simply no easy fix but years of pain and drafting. How has it got so bad. Who is accountable? The decline in membership will be devastating but who can blame people. If the Suns improve we will finish last next year.

    Well with a priority pick we should be able to land some good friends at pick 1 & 2 who'll drive the standards and stand up for one another from the get go

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:29, Lord Nev said:

    Geez Gawn's insights into the post-match message from Goody are horrible.

    Apparently we played well but couldn't finish off.

    Apparently they DON'T KNOW why they get killed on transition.

    Talking up the Richmond game, pretty much brushing off today.

    What a soulless club.

    He could start by saying "Let's not gift 14 goals to the opposition with our turnovers"

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:29, Return to Glory said:

    The usual suspects were on display but Viney plays a bash/crash brand of footy that's increasingly devoid of thought.

    Unfortunately JV seems more intent on the contest, rather thanhat he is required to do with it. We often criticise Clarrie for his manic movement between contests, but he at least is trying to keep the ball moving, whereas JV wants the game to contunually stop. Because the ball is not ocming out our midfielders think they have to help it come out AND then we are undermanned on the outside.

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:52, america de cali said:

    We are faarked just like the Melbourne building and recycling industry.

    Easily the toughest question after tonight's loss ADC....do we cancel our recycling bins?

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:55, praha said:

    Goodwin: We were outplayed for majority of the night. In the end, we were lucky to be in it. Our decision-making and fundamentals are just stressing our game.

    Also stressing the supporters who are a loss away from losing their [censored] minds. 

    The thing that hurts the most is we’ve had record membership and exposure on free to air tv this year and we’ve totally and utterly blown it. 

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:55, praha said:

    Goodwin: We were outplayed for majority of the night. In the end, we were lucky to be in it. Our decision-making and fundamentals are just stressing our game.

    Good pickup, Simon. Just a thought ... do you know anyone who knows about coaching AFL level football?

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    Just watched the entire game in under 2 minutes thanks to Foxtel’s 60x fast forward. Imagine if St Kilda weren’t terrible? 

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:58, Jaded said:

    Also stressing the supporters who are a loss away from losing their [censored] minds. 

    The thing that hurts the most is we’ve had record membership and exposure on free to air tv this year and we’ve totally and utterly blown it. 

    Spot on.

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:59, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Just watched the entire game in under 2 minutes thanks to Foxtel’s 60x fast forward. Imagine if St Kilda weren’t terrible? 

    Tune in next week against Richmond. They will pants us if they run at 50%.

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:56, Jaded said:

     

    I repeat injuries have ruined our season. But even injuries as bad as ours don’t simply cause a team to go from 4th to 17th. 

    Yes it does. And has.

    If people can't accept that then that's their problem

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:59, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Just watched the entire game in under 2 minutes thanks to Foxtel’s 60x fast forward. Imagine if St Kilda weren’t terrible? 

    Ask for your 2 minutes back. 

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:39, Moonshadow said:

    See ya.

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    That's hilarious. You're one funny guy. 

    We dont have enough members to lose  them through total ineptitude fin the club. There are plenty who won't renew or follow the club and that'll make you happy? Totally stupid. 

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:58, dimmy said:

    Unfortunately JV seems more intent on the contest, rather thanhat he is required to do with it. We often criticise Clarrie for his manic movement between contests, but he at least is trying to keep the ball moving, whereas JV wants the game to contunually stop. Because the ball is not ocming out our midfielders think they have to help it come out AND then we are undermanned on the outside.

    Dimmy, I think you expressed it better than me. It's turgid footy and it doesn't benefit his fellow midfielders at all, let alone players up the ground. The closest player to him in terms of style is maybe Luke Parker but Parker works to a plan. I'll be phucked if I know what JV's plan is. And when he does get it he now kicks it up in the air sideways.

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      On 27/07/2019 at 12:24, Older demon said:

    Well demonland will go into meltdown after that performance. It was actually 85 points from turn overs 13 goals 7 behinds from turn overs. Can you actually coach a team to handle the pill that badly. With so many professional footballers unable to kick or hand ball to maintain possession it augurs badly for next year simply because there are so many of them we cannot clear them all out at the same time.

    I also think it is time Goodwin ceased sending us the post match video. It is inane, densely and completely insincere because there is no improvement. I am embarrassed by this club.

    Wagner, Wagner, ANB, OMac & Smith hopefully won't be getting games (or on the list) next year.

    You can't win giving away 85 points from turnovers. For comparison we scored 22 pts from turnovers. That's on the players, not sure what Goodwin is meant to do about that.

    Brayshaw needs to learn how to use the footy instead of just bombing away and missing easy goals on the run. Another easy goal missed by Fritsch in the 3rd which turned into a goal down the other end.

    Our starting forward line tonight was Fritsch, Smith, Petty, Petracca, Lewis & Hunt. Petracca is the only one we would have had there in our starting 22 at the start of the season.

    The end of this season can't come quick enough, the whole club needs to reset to go again next year. I don't understand the level of vitriol on here, this year's been over for weeks.

    One positive I found tonight was Petracca, he's really matured over the last 2 or so months and been a consistently good player building more confidence. He needs to learn how to stay in the game longer (stints on ball will help) and nail his set shots but I'm more confident in him now than I was at the start of the season.

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      On 27/07/2019 at 13:01, binman said:

    Yes is does. And has.

    If people can't accept that then that's there their problem

    So injuries are why Brayshaw and Harmes have gone backwards at the rate of knots and refuse to play defensive footy? It’s why we can’t hit a target? It’s why we run around like headless chicken handballing to teammates feet? It’s why players miss from 20m out directly in front of goal? 

    I agree that the backline has really suffered this year and so we’ve been easier to score against. You can also argue the same about picking a target going forward, although if McDonald was injured all year why did they play him? 

    But like I said above, the basic skill errors and lack of two way running and effort can’t be all put back on the injuries. 

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