1 minute ago, Rusty Nails said:

I would happily lean towards that way of thinking SW...

If we were coming off a strong successful base and some recent (say last two decades) success with say 70k plus members.

If the cost of doing so weren't so prohibitive (CBD and nearby region) AND....

IF the MCC were right behind us and showing signs of supporting/backing us in eg; ....

?? allowing us to return to the G to train again

?? Concrete evidence that the MCC were looking to step in and help in any said discussions with local council (or the MCC Itself) to redevelop an area at our around Yarra Park....OR similar support (direct $$/helping to find or raise $$ via high level MCC backers etc) if that is not viable.

It's a nice romantic thought SW but where is any eveidence of the above from the MCC??  If you can show it to me i will happily sit up and take notice.

If not then after 35 years since being kicked off the G and just having an affiliation, like many other big clubs have with the MCC now and the Pies taking over the G and the surrounds as the main player, it's time we found our own identity.

Members / Admin / the FD and players will be much better off once we have that identity.  And part of that identity is physical bricks and mortar where you walk in and can see / feel / breathe the culture.

At this point i cant see that ever happening while we are talking Pollyanna/Walter Mitty type piece together pipe dreams in or near the CBD,  where there are just too many obstacles and financial hurdles for us (as a struggling smallish club) to go through.

Time to look elsewhere before most have gone past us in a big way and we are left in the wilderness to bemoan our inability to bite the bullet and move forward with a viable option further out.

Time to look forward....not back SW IMHO.  And part of doing that means being realistic with regard to our genuine options.

Where is there any evidence of the MCC not wanting to be part of the future??

Don’t make things up to suit your agenda. 

Neither the Club or the MCC have said anything is off the table yet, and i believe Pert when he says this is a long term project, because it is. 

As i said earlier, we have already cut ties with the MCC once before and it was a disaster, ultimately leading up to the dreaded 1996 Merger options

i don’t want to go through ANY of that ever again...

19 hours ago, ding said:

I will have another play when i get home.... i have no life and a kids imagination so, what the heck.

I was imagining trying to get the Large Building block,  away from the street frontages as much as possible, for Local amenity reasons.

 

Is there a chance you could give it another go...  with the buildings around the Southern side of your original concept Image, but say move the Oval 25 Mtrs toward Punt Rd.?

Don't change your orientation of the Oval,  as it's almost the same as the Mcg.

 

This would mean a Building block South-West of the Oval,  around the Full-Back to Back-Pocket area of your Image...  and also Built  'above'  the AAMI Park car-park...  & joined together with a 2nd building block,  around the Southern Wing of your Image.?

 

What do you think,  Ding ?

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31 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Where is there any evidence of the MCC not wanting to be part of the future??

Don’t make things up to suit your agenda. 

Neither the Club or the MCC have said anything is off the table yet, and i believe Pert when he says this is a long term project, because it is. 

As i said earlier, we have already cut ties with the MCC once before and it was a disaster, ultimately leading up to the dreaded 1996 Merger options

i don’t want to go through ANY of that ever again...

I was asking the question SW.  If you are happy with none (so far) then that is your position and you are more than entitled to hold it.

It's just come to me. Put a roof on top of the MCG and put turf on it. Right size, right orientation, right location.

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

That could possibly get up if the car race was traded for it. Give the local sports clubs back their facilities the entire 365 days. Give the residents back (most of) their park.

Seem to be a lot of ovals around there regardless of the race track.

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

It's just come to me. Put a roof on top of the MCG and put turf on it. Right size, right orientation, right location.

I suggest that a while back, would be good if possible but $$$$$$$$

We need to speak to both the storm and the rebels, and see if they may be willing to relocate near Marvel.

The place i think they wanted us to build a base, i know it's a long shot but hey you never know?

1 hour ago, GM11 said:

Seem to be a lot of ovals around there regardless of the race track.

Correct, and they get thrown off in January to make way for Ron's Folly. Puts a bit of a dent in the cricket season. Also the indoor sports clubs get thrown out. We need your netball court for 80 spare tyres.

Nice digs, shame about the race.

Not the mention the people who live and work around there just love the race. Absolutely live for it.

Someone who came along and promised no race in return for all year access to sport facilities, upgraded ovals, oh ... and an MCG-sized oval, pool, gym, offices, convention area, social club, iMAX, theatre and helipad might find considerable local support.

Might be a bit tough to get over the line, but this whole situation is tough. Ripping park land from well heeled East Melburnians is a hell of a lot tougher.

 

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Correct, and they get thrown off in January to make way for Ron's Folly. Puts a bit of a dent in the cricket season. Also the indoor sports clubs get thrown out. We need your netball court for 80 spare tyres.

Nice digs, shame about the race.

Not the mention the people who live and work around there just love the race. Absolutely live for it.

Someone who came along and promised no race in return for all year access to sport facilities, upgraded ovals, oh ... and an MCG-sized oval, pool, gym, offices, convention area, social club, iMAX, theatre and helipad might find considerable local support.

Might be a bit tough to get over the line, but this whole situation is tough. Ripping park land from well heeled East Melburnians is a hell of a lot tougher.

 

This .

the sooner f1 fcoffski somewhere else hello SYDNEY and radelaide the better 

On 5/13/2019 at 4:00 PM, DV8 said:

Ding, did you do this modification on this Image ?

This is brilliant. Now just imagine Richmond station being moved closer to the city around about gate 1 and opposite the tennis centre along with Hisense and Storms home ground.

2 hours ago, deebug said:

We need to speak to both the storm and the rebels, and see if they may be willing to relocate near Marvel.

The place i think they wanted us to build a base, i know it's a long shot but hey you never know?

couldn't the other aami tenants actually just train on aami itself?

34 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

couldn't the other aami tenants actually just train on aami itself?

Probably not dc. Like the MCG they would be protective of the turf

25 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Probably not dc. Like the MCG they would be protective of the turf

they don't get used anywhere near as much as the g or marvel

4 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Correct, and they get thrown off in January to make way for Ron's Folly. Puts a bit of a dent in the cricket season. Also the indoor sports clubs get thrown out. We need your netball court for 80 spare tyres.

Nice digs, shame about the race.

Not the mention the people who live and work around there just love the race. Absolutely live for it.

Someone who came along and promised no race in return for all year access to sport facilities, upgraded ovals, oh ... and an MCG-sized oval, pool, gym, offices, convention area, social club, iMAX, theatre and helipad might find considerable local support.

Might be a bit tough to get over the line, but this whole situation is tough. Ripping park land from well heeled East Melburnians is a hell of a lot tougher.

 

Thanks. Out of interest, is that where South Melbourne home ground was located?

6 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

I was asking the question SW.  If you are happy with none (so far) then that is your position and you are more than entitled to hold it.

You are aware that we did break away from the MCC before RN?

It's not just having to find a new home for us; it's also getting rejected by our government ever time we ask for help.

Yet all other clubs have been given money and help form the government. 

Why does this keep happening? 

At this rate we might as well build a floating oval over the Yarra.

I like Goschs Paddock because it's both close to public transport and near the MCG.

I don't see why we can't use the MCG for the admin staff and move the demon shop out from where it located at the moment? Maybe where the MCG shop is located and have both our demon shop and MCG shop together?

6 hours ago, deebug said:

I don't see why we can't use the MCG for the admin staff and move the demon shop out from where it located at the moment? Maybe where the MCG shop is located and have both our demon shop and MCG shop together?

Because it is even smaller than our current allocation of space, and is too small for our current needs and there is no more room at the MCG. .

11 hours ago, GM11 said:

Thanks. Out of interest, is that where South Melbourne home ground was located?

South Melbourne played at the Lake Oval which is within the Albert Park precinct.

I's now called Lakeside Stadium.

"Lakeside Stadium is a sports arena in Albert Park, Melbourne, Australia. Comprising an athletics track and soccer stadium, it currently serves as the home ground and administrative base for the South Melbourne FC, Athletics Victoria, Athletics Australia, Victorian Institute of Sport and Australian Little Athletics. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakeside_Stadium

51 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

South Melbourne played at the Lake Oval which is within the Albert Park precinct.

I's now called Lakeside Stadium.

"Lakeside Stadium is a sports arena in Albert Park, Melbourne, Australia. Comprising an athletics track and soccer stadium, it currently serves as the home ground and administrative base for the South Melbourne FC, Athletics Victoria, Athletics Australia, Victorian Institute of Sport and Australian Little Athletics. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakeside_Stadium

Thanks?

Another $20m promised to Geelong Today

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16 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Another $20m promised to Geelong Today

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Geelong is smart. Getting the promise from the party most likely (if the polls are correct) to form Government.

21 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Another $20m promised to Geelong Today

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Interesting that so much money is being poured into a stadium that is only used 8 odd times a year. You would think that someone would be insisting it be used more.

BTW... Corio which includes the metropolis of Geelong is considered federal Labour's safest non metropolitan seat.

 

Edited May 15, 20195 yr by Diamond_Jim

Bugger Eddie McGuire. Give me Brian Cook, who wiped out Geelong's debt with one phone call, has helped the Cats go from strength to strength, has governments falling over themselves to splash around money, and doesn't put his foot in his mouth or make a fool of himself.

I love Ding's mock up Gosch's Paddock ideas. Storm and Victory have a perfectly good purpose built stadium to train in.

If we move out of AAMI Park, then they benefit by gaining more internal space. We should benefit from more external space.

11 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Because it is even smaller than our current allocation of space, and is too small for our current needs and there is no more room at the MCG. .

During the week the MCG has rooms and plenty of them not in use, it seems such a bloody waste to me.

We have been trying to get funds from our government and they just keep kicking us in the guts, saying no every time.

How the hell do the all the other clubs get funding? 

I would love to find out why? 

I think this will be about the 4th or 5th time around every other club has had new club rooms, new locations given to them.

I remember Travis Johnston saying back when we were at the Junction oval, that at the time if we had what collingwood had we would have won 4 flags.

We are so far back from all other clubs, with everything, we will only be in the AFL just to make up the numbers.

It just makes my blood boil, that you hear of all the other clubs given money and help, and all we get is zero.