Demons Grand Plan for Yarra Park Training HQ

[Wrecker45 3,378]

Pert will have us positioned somewhere between Melbourne and Perth.

Dud.

Why does he go on triple m and talk about our game plan? He was removed from Collingwood for having too much involvement with the football department. 

He should be getting us the football facilities we need as CEO. Needs to learn his position.

[old dee 24,001]

46 minutes ago, —coach— said:

I don’t think Casey will ever be a viable option, it’s 55km from the MCG and takes anywhere from 55mins to 90mins to get too (it’s quicker to get to my parents farm in Trentham which is 101km away from the MCG than Casey Fields in peak hour) Waverley and Dingley are 24 and 26km respectivley from MCG and take far less time to get too. Plus Waverley is the Hawks previous home ground and they have considerable membership located around the area.

If we’re considering a home base miles away from our home ground, it’s far quicker by road to go the same distance north than south east from the MCG, so we would be better off with a base in the acres of free space near Taylor’s lakes which is only 26km from the city and takes around 47mins in peak hour.

I live at Taylors Lakes, no spare land here coach, perhaps they could pull down Thunder Dome and build it there.

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,935]

4 hours ago, SPC said:

It is still hard to believe we are the oldest club and the only club with a 'pop-up' training ground. AFL should compensate for kicking us off the G and allowing other clubs to play at 'our' ground. 

 

4 hours ago, old dee said:

SPC I think it was the MCC who kicked us off in the mid sixties so Richmond could play games there and it was the VFL in those days. We have been dithering ever since.

Oh for an "Eddy McGuire " at the MFC.

Bang . . . nailed it. 

The VFL/AFL have been &^*#ing us for the best part of 50 years. We've been too incompetent, too slow or too poor (pick whatever justification you like) to see what's going on. 

Kevin Sheedy (who hates us BTW) nailed it 23 years ago when we were debating the merger with the Dorks. . . 

McAvaney: Kevin, what would you do if you were running Melbourne?

Sheedy: Eyeball the members (both MFC and MCC) and get them to put their hand in their pockets.

McAvaney: They (the Melbourne board at the time) said they've done that.

Sheedy: Well they didn't eyeball them hard enough did they!

Does not get more true, simpler or accurate than that.

[The Red Fox 216]

Junction Oval looking okay about now... ??

[Sir Why You Little 37,307]

2 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Any ideas SW?  Wait for the Hawks to vacate Waverley and refurb in 2022?  Casey development?  Need funding help for either etc.

Continue with the present mish mash and no genuine club/home?

We should still locate near the MCG

Patience is needed. Casey is not a home. It is an area

Pert is here to do a job. I hope he can do it

[Sorry kids 635]

1 hour ago, praha said:

Growth area for the club is the CBD. We need greater presence there. Undoubtedly. If we don't someone else eventually will. It's no longer just a business hub it is now home to tens if not hundreds of thousands of people and will continue to grow. Sport is an effective means to get new people to a city and especially a country to "fit" in. We have rightly targetted the Asian student demographic and you see more of them at games now, either as a "day out" for fun to check it off the bucket list or even more people you can tell have embraced the club. I see them because I sit in AFL Members near GA and the number is growing. 

If we want to be the Yankees or the Knicks or the Lakers of the AFL, we need those supporters. Our core base is too concentrated and small to rely upon exclusively for growth. We need presence in growth areas with young populations.

I think it was Bartlett who said we needed a shop front in the CBD. Sell tickets exclusively to Melbourne games. Small steps but we need a foothold.

I am very familiar with MFC and the Asian market as I am the person who put the idea to the Club for a students welcome day some years ago. I set out a whole strategy for attracting international students to Melbourne home games. The only difference being I proposed our members could sit with students and explain the game to them.  I specifically gave  the Club information on international student numbers in Melbourne  as well as the opportunity it could represent for our corporate market. Sadly none of my emails were ever acknowledged at the time although the proposal was taken up the following season. When I finally received a response from the Club they informed me the key people in the Marketing Department had left the Club. I then advised them I had other ideas for the concept but they never got back to me. I was not looking for any recognition or money, just to have a better opportunity to further discuss my ideas. 

[Mach5 4,768]

28 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

I am very familiar with MFC and the Asian market as I am the person who put the idea to the Club for a students welcome day some years ago. I set out a whole strategy for attracting international students to Melbourne home games. The only difference being I proposed our members could sit with students and explain the game to them.  I specifically gave  the Club information on international student numbers in Melbourne  as well as the opportunity it could represent for our corporate market. Sadly none of my emails were ever acknowledged at the time although the proposal was taken up the following season. When I finally received a response from the Club they informed me the key people in the Marketing Department had left the Club. I then advised them I had other ideas for the concept but they never got back to me. I was not looking for any recognition or money, just to have a better opportunity to further discuss my ideas. 

It’s a little naive to think the club haven’t had the same ideas and haven’t tried to implement what you’re talking about. 

As someone once said, there’s never a shortage of good ideas inside a footy club, but you have to pick and choose carefully which ones to spend your limited resources on trying to achieve.

[old dee 24,001]

54 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We should still locate near the MCG

Patience is needed. Casey is not a home. It is an area

Pert is here to do a job. I hope he can do it

Where exactly SWYL ?

[Sorry kids 635]

11 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

It’s a little naive to think the club haven’t had the same ideas and haven’t tried to implement what you’re talking about. 

As someone once said, there’s never a shortage of good ideas inside a footy club, but you have to pick and choose carefully which ones to spend your limited resources on trying to achieve.

Love to know who the someone who once said, "there s never a shortage of good ideas inside a footy club". And the MFC, that  well know Silicon Valley hub of footy ideas. Naive perhaps. On the other hand there are 17 other Clubs who didnt think up the idea and only one, MFC who took up  my idea the following season. 

[Sir Why You Little 37,307]

9 minutes ago, old dee said:

Where exactly SWYL ?

Buy up land and build if necessary. It’s time this club built an asset, put its balls on the line. 

We have been bent over for long enough

i don’t care if it takes 10 years to formulate. 

We must be smart, tough and patient 

[chookrat 4,268]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We should still locate near the MCG

Patience is needed. Casey is not a home. It is an area

Pert is here to do a job. I hope he can do it

Casey is part of a growth corridor which is home to our VFL team and where we run clinics to build our supporter base and membership through young families in the area. It works for this purpose. 

We shouldn't consider a permanent training base that is not within an easy walk of the 'G'.

[Sir Why You Little 37,307]

3 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Casey is part of a growth corridor which is home to our VFL team and where we run clinics to build our supporter base and membership through young families in the area. It works for this purpose. 

We shouldn't consider a permanent training base that is not within an easy walk of the 'G'.

I think we should stay within the MCG Precinct

that is our true heritage 

casey is just a faceless suburb in the middle of nowhere...

[daisycutter 29,892]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

the starting point was their abode not the mcg. 

Anyway, the original point to which the travel time relates was it is the admin staff that would have travel difficulties to Casey more than the players who tend to live east and south of the cbd and travel outside peak time against the flow of peak traffic.

 

well i live at burwood, so well clear of the mcg and inner east and the shortest distance (google maps) to casey fields is 45km. no way i could do it anywhere near 30mins even in off peak. I'm also not too far from the monash fwy or dandenong rd.

realistically i'd allow an average of 1 hour (and each year it gets worse)

[daisycutter 29,892]

2 hours ago, W I S E said:

Junction Oval looking okay about now... ??

best possums in melbourne

[Diamond_Jim 12,687]

16 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I think we should stay within the MCG Precinct

that is our true heritage 

casey is just a faceless suburb in the middle of nowhere...

famous maxim in politics....

Politics is the art of the possible.

Time perhaps to stop tilting at windmills

[—coach— 3,496]

2 hours ago, old dee said:

I live at Taylors Lakes, no spare land here coach, perhaps they could pull down Thunder Dome and build it there.

Thanks OD, was probs thinking more on the north eastern side of the Calder to Taylor’s Lakes on the empty paddocks that boarder the valley that the maribynong runs through, next to the Keilor public golf course.

PS I don’t actually want the club to have their training base there, was more a point that Casey is a hell of a long way away from the G.

[old dee 24,001]

35 minutes ago, —coach— said:

Thanks OD, was probs thinking more on the north eastern side of the Calder to Taylor’s Lakes on the empty paddocks that boarder the valley that the maribynong runs through, next to the Keilor public golf course.

PS I don’t actually want the club to have their training base there, was more a point that Casey is a hell of a long way away from the G.

As I understand coach it is in the Tullamarine flight restricted area. However there is no way  the establishment that is the MFC could stomach a facility in the northern surburbs so neither of us will have to worry about a site.

 

[old dee 24,001]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

famous maxim in politics....

Politics is the art of the possible.

Time perhaps to stop tilting at windmills

You are correct DJ but I fear the tilting will go.

[old dee 24,001]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I think we should stay within the MCG Precinct

that is our true heritage 

casey is just a faceless suburb in the middle of nowhere...

I keep asking where?

[PaulRB 6,432]

Ideal spot is over the train lines to the west of the MCG..? 

[chookrat 4,268]

11 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Ideal spot is over the train lines to the west of the MCG..? 

This would be the logical choice. The troublesome residents in East Melbourne can get on board or GAGF. We might need to send in some hevaies to fix them up. 

[spalding 1,128]

3 hours ago, Mach5 said:

It’s a little naive to think the club haven’t had the same ideas and haven’t tried to implement what you’re talking about. 

As someone once said, there’s never a shortage of good ideas inside a footy club, but you have to pick and choose carefully which ones to spend your limited resources on trying to achieve.

It’s called sportshost. We’re already doing it. I have been part of it via our central Victorian supporters group. It was advertised during the Saints game. Lots of new arrivals from overseas being hosted at demons games by rusted in supporters. I did it last year with a group of Indian guys. They loved it - and hopefully now Demob supporters. 

[Demon Disciple 12,452]

1 hour ago, PaulRB said:

Ideal spot is over the train lines to the west of the MCG..? 

Building over the rail lines would be $$$ but probably the most logical choice. All of that space that could be utilised and the NIMBYS wouldn’t be able to do a thing about it. It would simply add to the MCG sporting precinct.

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, PaulRB said:

Ideal spot is over the train lines to the west of the MCG..? 

 

4 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Building over the rail lines would be $$$ but probably the most logical choice. All of that space that could be utilised and the NIMBYS wouldn’t be able to do a thing about it. It would simply add to the MCG sporting precinct.

... so another 20 yrs time,  we'll get our training ground,  bewdy.

[Lucifers Hero 40,515]

10 hours ago, daisycutter said:

well i live at burwood, so well clear of the mcg and inner east and the shortest distance (google maps) to casey fields is 45km. no way i could do it anywhere near 30mins even in off peak. I'm also not too far from the monash fwy or dandenong rd.

realistically i'd allow an average of 1 hour (and each year it gets worse)

you win dc?

My original point was we won't be moving the club to Casey as (several hundred) admin staff (who live in all parts of Melbourne and often rely on public transport) would be more affected than players.  Still think that, even if it takes players an hour several times a week to get there.   Casey is not an option for a whole of club venue.

Edited May 9, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero