POSTGAME: Rd 14 vs Fremantle

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Is that the first time weve won after a bye in a while??

[Earl Hood 6,082]

45 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

TMAc deserves credit for winning us that match, but boy did he have some stinking moments out there today. His best and worst are so far apart and today both were on full display. Dr Jeykell and Mr Hyde sorta stuff. He kills me at times.

He persisted today and to his credit, came good when it mattered. 

Yes Tommy had a fair few possessions in the first 3 quarters but had stuffed up just about every possession and then at the start of the fourth he stuffed a kick forward again and I noticed him yelling a response to some fans on the northern stand Punt Rd flank. I thought that’s about it he is mentally shot. However from that point on he put on a clinic of contested marking, goal kicking and competitive ruck work. Just like we thought he could do. One difference today I think was Tom spent a lot of time on the wing and ruck that he was able to get into the game and finally it clicked. 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

6 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Yes Tommy had a fair few possessions in the first 3 quarters but had stuffed up just about every possession and then at the start of the fourth he stuffed a kick forward again and I noticed him yelling a response to some fans on the northern stand Punt Rd flank. I thought that’s about it he is mentally shot. However from that point on he put on a clinic of contested marking, goal kicking and competitive ruck work. Just like we thought he could do. One difference today I think was Tom spent a lot of time on the wing and ruck that he was able to get into the game and finally it clicked. 

Thats interesting. Sometimes i think we just need to be more angry as a team. Forget all this laughing and team jokes before the game starts.

[Skuit 10,031]

8 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Is that the first time weve won after a bye in a while??

Does 2017 count?

We came out looking the goods post-bye before being ravaged by injuries and a horrible schedule.

[Skuit 10,031]

Season average marks: 83.6

Versus the Dockers: 106

It was the most noticeable tweak.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

2 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Does 2017 count?

We came out looking the goods post-bye before being ravaged by injuries and a horrible schedule.

Seems a long time ago now Sku. I do vaguely remember us winning one. So good to get a win today, hope you saw it.

[Sir Why You Little 36,971]

8 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Thats interesting. Sometimes i think we just need to be more angry as a team. Forget all this laughing and team jokes before the game starts.

Yep more “Angry” Pills ? i agree, without being violent. No point getting suspended or giving away free kicks. But Anger at being “almost good enough”, rather than the winners. 

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

19 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Yes Tommy had a fair few possessions in the first 3 quarters but had stuffed up just about every possession and then at the start of the fourth he stuffed a kick forward again and I noticed him yelling a response to some fans on the northern stand Punt Rd flank. I thought that’s about it he is mentally shot. However from that point on he put on a clinic of contested marking, goal kicking and competitive ruck work. Just like we thought he could do. One difference today I think was Tom spent a lot of time on the wing and ruck that he was able to get into the game and finally it clicked. 

Yep, I saw it. I was sitting on the members balcony and it was directed at fans in what would have been the old ‘red seats’ where our old player race was. I presume a fan gave him some feedback that he didn’t like. His disposals were all very poor and he is lucky that he somehow turned it on when it counted 

[Sigil 1,001]

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yep more “Angry” Pills ? i agree, without being violent. No point getting suspended or giving away free kicks. But Anger at being “almost good enough”, rather than the winners. 

May is starting to cover that

[Sir Why You Little 36,971]

9 minutes ago, Sigil said:

May is starting to cover that

I wasn’t a fan, but i have been rapt with his last 2 games for us. Happy to eat Humble....

[Fork 'em 6,983]

We've embarrassingly lost games that we should have won with the opposition 2 rotations down so I'll take the win today.
 
 

Edited June 22, 2019 by Fork 'em

[layzie 33,752]

Good win today! Behind at every change but showed real character to pull it off. I don’t care where you are on the ladder is there anything better than going to the g on a Saturday afternoon and getting a win!

Plenty of good performances. For the first time in ages we all had to leave good ones out of the DL voting. Viney was immense today and I thought Gawn was serviceable in the first half before really taking over in the second. Harmes sacrificed his game a bit to slow down Fyfe who was just rinsing us in the first half.

Jay Lockhart, I just love a kid that comes in and still has the head bobble. No complications just see ball, get it, kick it towards goal through the big sticks. Sam Frost is working his way into some rich form, seemed to go pretty hard at it today, but could also just be his haircut.

I definitely saw a turn in confidence and willingness to go with the first option more today. Ok we benefited from Freo losing man power but we did what we needed to do and transitioned the ball very well in that last quarter. Bravo Dees, let’s build on this!

[DeeSpencer 25,464]

2 hours ago, A F said:

Fyfe is ordinary in defensive transition and I was hoping Harmes would give him more to think about, but at least he got one goal on him. 

Fyfe is see ball, get ball and a brilliant marker. I wouldn't have him in the top 10 players in the league, but some people love him. 

In terms of switching, I was thinking more between the backs. Often a Melbourne back would intercept mark or receive a mark at half back. We'd have May, Hore or Salem set up for the initial switch, which would then release to a quick running player in space like you note Baker or a half forward. Problem was, we didn't have the confidence to hit it.

Frost's kicks are too loopy and only May can really kick low and flat to enact the switch. The kicking from Lever, Salem and even Fritsch will be handy in this respect if we set up for the switch. We're far too predictable otherwise.

Yep Fyfe is the weak defensive link in Freo’s midfield but usually a tagger sits on him so it’s irrelevant. Agree about Harmes, thought he looked flat all game, maybe a virus?? Took until the last to make Fyfe chase him. 

Fyfe’s such a beast, but I think he’s close to 10th than 1st. He’s a freak in the air and at stoppages but otherwise like Oliver but without the younger legs and upside (hopefully). 

The backs seem reluctant to switch because they don’t trust the mids and half forwards to win the spread race outside. Better spread and they’ll be more encourage.

May needs to pick up the tempo to then use the ball to his potential. He’s still dump kicking every now and then, which is understandable given he’s played in perennially crap teams. His ability to slide through traffic for a big man is wonderful and was on display in the last term especially. 

[picket fence 17,048]

1 hour ago, dave said:

Currently in Denver but listened, great to see big Tom MacDonald back 

Ah yep have to agree and add Gus, Clarrie when going got really tough, Viney, Maxy, Frosty AND.. MAY!

[picket fence 17,048]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I see the usual negative Nazi's have gone missing now that we had a win..

So close to naming them but I'll leave that be for now.

Sheeeit Dazzle why not!

[Sir Why You Little 36,971]

6 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Ah yep have to agree and add Gus, Clarrie when going got really tough, Viney, Maxy, Frosty AND.. MAY!

9 to go...

[picket fence 17,048]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

9 to go...

Cant have it all ways! But I saw the Remnants of what we were like in the finals last year. GROWING BELIEF and playing with some Abandon.. but Strangely more belief in the way defense was set up..

May was enormous, so too Frosty, Now just get LEVER back and  Hnmmmmm

Still many deficiencies but with Sage recruiting, development of existings Et AL we might be Ok In 2020

[daisycutter 29,604]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

take out the howlers ?? which century will that happen

4.2 v 4.1  well have to give that to you eh

only got in front once opposition vanished off the bench. You really going to argue otherwise ?

you're being over harsh methinks. there was quite a lot to like despite the usual melbourne errors

margin in game only ever got out to 3 kicks and that was for a short time. most of game was only one or two kicks in it. our endeavour, effort and hardness stood out all game. 

[RalphiusMaximus 6,024]

Pretty happy with the game all things considered.  The tweaks to the gameplan are good.  I loved seeing us using the short pass to a leading player to advance the ball rather than just bombing it down the line for a stoppage.  It did cost us a few goals due to poor skills, but that will improve as the players get used to it.  I also loved seeing how quickly we switched the ball when we got it right.  One play in particular where we'd bombed into the 50 twice only to have the ball come straight back out, Jones used his head, hit a quick pass to CHB which then went out the other side and resulted in an uncontested mark in the f50.  We only got a point, but the play was beautifully executed. 

I love the look of May.  He's a wrecking ball in the contest and has a beautiful kick.  His presence and leadership in the backline is already having an impact.  If we can get games into Lever as well I think we'll see some drastic improvement there. 

Frost as well.  He's loving playing as the third tall.  He gets to use his pace and leap to intercept and run away from people.  His kicking is a bit of a problem at times, but he just set up so much play today. 

I am still bothered by our i50s though.  We were better today, but still scored from less than 30% of our entries.  That lack of efficiency is still our biggest issue.  Hopefully Rawlings can figure it out. 

[Stein9193 129]

5 hours ago, stranga said:

Wouldn't have won in Freo weren't two players down. 

Who cares 

[old dee 23,781]

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Whiskey ? Time

Yes SWYL I have had  a wee dram or two on a new one tonight called the Naked Grouse. Very nice little number.

[Sir Why You Little 36,971]

Just now, old dee said:

Yes SWYL I have had  a wee dram or two on a new one tonight called the Naked Grouse. Very nice little number.

Excellent, will look that one up

[nosoupforme 3,085]

2 hours ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

What’s with peoples love affair with maxy he was Terrific again and is probably out most consistent player but he makes terrible mistakes like most the team yet nobody seems to notice.

viney was by far our best player today and the best on the ground 

Yes of course he does make mistakes . You see if he didn't he would be perfect. You can play him at full forward and he wouldn't drop the mark or miss goals would he. Just kick it to him. However they all make mistakes and the ball gets turned over.

Gawny  makes less mistakes  and we give him the benefit of the doubt not like some who don't learn from their's they just keep making them. 

Without Gawn we would struggle as a team he is  good at his craft and vital to our cause as we all noticed in 2017.He is the vital piece of the team.

Viney was hand fed well today. Watch the replay. He had a good game but made his fair share of mistakes but the good outweighed the bad today. Please be more constructive with your post.  I won't be answering any of your questions again.  

Edited June 22, 2019 by nosoupforme

[old dee 23,781]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Excellent, will look that one up

It is a blend which I don't often have but enjoying it. Of course winning probably adds to the flavour.

[binman 42,659]

2 hours ago, Skuit said:

Season average marks: 83.6

Versus the Dockers: 106

It was the most noticeable tweak.

Exactly what i thought. After the first we had he way more uncontested marks than them. Played much slower

Edited June 22, 2019 by binman