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Anyone the Hawks are interested in, we should also be doing our due diligence on. 

“The General” was on an upward form curve prior to his knee injury last year and word is his prospects of a full comeback at AFL level are better than good. And he’s coming out of contract.

A genuine tall marking target who can kick 50+ goals, bust packs and straighten up the side must be recruiting priority number one heading into 2020. With this type of player and some quick classy mids in the draft I believe we can bounce right back into contention in 2020.

Watch Weid, Tracc, TMac and the Melky Bar Kid walk a foot taller with a fit Jonno Patton commanding the forward 50. 

Risk v Reward is massive with this guy. What would it take in trade to get him? Start the bidding at our 2nd round pick? 

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-06/cashedup-hawks-linked-to-recovering-giants-forward-patton

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Hawks will probably get Patton for an 8th rd draft pick and then demand a sweetener from GWS.

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https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-2019-gws-jon-patton-heading-to-us-to-work-with-knee-guru-who-helped-tiger-woods-kobe-bryant-and-peyton-manning/news-story/a5e97209ea378e746231666aa2196e01

“I don’t have the mindset to just come back and play, my mindset is to come back and win a premiership and potentially be an All-Australian forward. I feel if I fulfil my potential I can be one of the best forwards in the league.”

 

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Prefer Jeremy Cameron...

Has the edge over Patton where it counts playing as a key forward (career averages)...

> Marks inside 50 (elite)

> Marks on a lead (elite)

> Score involvements (6.4 per game!)

> Goals (2.6 per game... elite).  Finished 7th for average goals scored per game 2018 (just  behind T-Mac) and presently leading the Coleman.

Free agent.  No brainer.

Stats:  Courtesy of AFL Stats Pro

https://m.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Compare?playerIds=CD_I291821,CD_I293845&comparisonTab=h2h

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3 minutes ago, olisik said:

Wouldn’t Hawks need to fill their quota of first round draft picks taken? 

Good point you make, unless I’m mistaken (can happen) they haven’t used a first round pick since 2015.

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11 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Prefer Jeremy Cameron...

Has the edge over Patton where it counts playing as a key forward (career averages)...

> Marks inside 50 (elite)

> Marks on a lead (elite)

> Score involvements (6.4 per game!)

> Goals (2.6 per game... elite).  Finished 7th for average goals scored per game 2018 (just  behind T-Mac) and presently leading the Coleman.

Free agent.  No brainer.

Stats:  Courtesy of AFL Stats Pro

https://m.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Compare?playerIds=CD_I291821,CD_I293845&comparisonTab=h2h

Cameron is better than Tom Lynch and he went for around $1.4M back ended as I understand from the reports.

Very serious money

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2 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Prefer Whitfield.

As good as he is the greater priority for us is a key forward. Can’t go into 2020 with current personnel in the forward half. 

We will have a top 4 pick to draft a quick midfielder with. Quite possibly pick 1.

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Once someone is linked to a hawks you might as well walk away.. They are so ruthless and just know how to get the job done.

 But how come they are always cashed up? Everyone plays for peanuts down there.  O’Meara, Mitchell, Wingard, “he who shall not be named”, McEvoy, Chip, are all on Newstart. Smith, Roughy on the pension? 

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31 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

As good as he is the greater priority for us is a key forward. Can’t go into 2020 with current personnel in the forward half. 

We will have a top 4 pick to draft a quick midfielder with. Quite possibly pick 1.

Cognilio as a FA and Rowell or similar as 1st round pick would help us more than a kneeless, highly priced KPF.

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Cognilio as a FA and Rowell or similar as 1st round pick would help us more than a kneeless, highly priced KPF.

Both those guys would be great but who do you propose we kick the prune to inside F50 next year? What’s your solution?

His knee doesn’t appear to be putting off Hawthorn.

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2 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

forget him; he's going to hawthorn, if he leaves the franchise

and jeremy cameron is signed up to gw$ long-term and under massive, massive money

 

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Once someone is linked to a hawks you might as well walk away.. They are so ruthless and just know how to get the job done.

Defeatist thinking.

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Both those guys would be great but who do you propose we kick the prune to inside F50 next year? What’s your solution?

His knee doesn’t appear to be putting off Hawthorn.

Better delivery inside 50 will lead to goals. Tmac and Weid have had horrid delivery. Games are won in the midfield, the 666 rule has emphasised this. But I guess you knew that.

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1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Better delivery inside 50 will lead to goals. Tmac and Weid have had horrid delivery. Games are won in the midfield, the 666 rule has emphasised this. But I guess you knew that.

What I know is that we kicked 1 goal from 28 entries to close out Thursday night’s debacle. What I know is that TMac has kicked 3 goals for the year, Weid 5. In 6 games. But I guess you also knew that.

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How is it that Hawthorn are always cashed up and don’t go to the draft in the first round? My understanding is that they have to go to the 1st round this year as they have traded their picks the last few years. It’s amazing how we sell the farm for average players and they get stars for next to nothing.

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18 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

What I know is that we kicked 1 goal from 28 entries to close out Thursday night’s debacle. What I know is that TMac has kicked 3 goals for the year, Weid 5. In 6 games. But I guess you also knew that.

Thanks for proving my point 

Name one of our mids with A grade foot skills, partic inside 50 delivery? Oliver comes closest, but no cigar. Salem and Fritter are playing back. The rest are average to poor. What hope do our forwards have?

Cognilio and Rowell/Anderson/Young would be a massive improvement going inside 50

Patton can't get on the park, would command $800k pa and cost a 1st round pick in trade. But sure, I'll go with your call.

FMD...

 

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13 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

How is it that Hawthorn are always cashed up and don’t go to the draft in the first round? My understanding is that they have to go to the 1st round this year as they have traded their picks the last few years. It’s amazing how we sell the farm for average players and they get stars for next to nothing.

Makes me want to throw up.

Wish nothing but bad things for the smelly Hawks

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8 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Thanks for proving my point 

Name one of our mids with A grade foot skills, partic inside 50 delivery? Oliver comes closest, but no cigar. Salem and Fritter are playing back. The rest are average to poor. What hope do our forwards have?

Cognilio and Rowell/Anderson/Young would be a massive improvement going inside 50

Patton can't get on the park, would command $800k pa and cost a 1st round pick in trade. But sure, I'll go with your call.

FMD...

 

If you think the quality of entries is the sole reason Weid and TMac can’t mark the footy you’ve got rocks in your head. You’re way too forgiving.

Or maybe you’re right and that Clarko is a mug when it comes to recruiting.

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