On 22/04/2019 at 07:14, Deeko2 said:

I get what you’re tying to stay but all teams have to give players mandatory leave post the end of the year and then usually start preseason the moment that finishes. 

So teams finishing earlier without finals obviously start preseason earlier.

One would expect the boys who finish late in September would still be professional enough to look after themselves.

 

It’s about maintaining conditioning during the off season. Obviously our boys weren’t given strict enough regimes to maintain and when they finally came back they were so far behind the 8 ball.

  On 22/04/2019 at 07:18, olisik said:

It’s about maintaining conditioning during the off season. Obviously our boys weren’t given strict enough regimes to maintain and when they finally came back they were so far behind the 8 ball.

All these comments on the teams fitness/conditioning are you guys working with Mission to know this???

Now channel 7 questioning if Viney will be  fit for Wednesday night.

  On 22/04/2019 at 06:54, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Jetta kept playing didnt he? tough lil solider.

This has become our Achilles Heal, over the past couple of Years.

Gambling with players Health and Fitness issues.   Playing them when they are not OK.

Edited April 22, 20196 yr by DV8

  On 22/04/2019 at 07:26, loges said:

Now channel 7 questioning if Viney will be  fit for Wednesday night.

We could almost have WERRIDEE making a 'BEST 22 PLAYERS WHO ARE INJURED' list right now.

  On 22/04/2019 at 06:03, dazzledavey36 said:

Hahah what an absolute joke... 

3 first round draft picks for May and Lever..  

No wonder Gold Coast were laughing to the bank when they got rid of May and KK for pick 6.

Only us.

  On 22/04/2019 at 07:26, loges said:

Now channel 7 questioning if Viney will be  fit for Wednesday night.

Article on AFL.com has him cleared to play after scans yesterday.

  On 22/04/2019 at 06:58, A F said:

It would now seem that way. Of course, it could be bad luck. Jetta certainly came off second best early on in the game, but to me, he looked unfit to play the first time he went near it.

He (Jetta) hasn't been right all season, for some reason.

But He would Not have played any games carrying a torn Meniscus.   So that must be a New injury, ontop of his other ailments this season.

Edited April 22, 20196 yr by DV8

  On 22/04/2019 at 05:56, Big Gun said:

Been reported on the Channel 7 pre-game today that May has had a major set back with his groin injury and will most likely not be back till July.

Well what GREAT FRIGGEN VALUE HE HAS BEEN!!!

  On 22/04/2019 at 07:07, Soidee said:

Diabolical!  The handling of this team pre season is a disgrace!  As a paid up member I am sick of mismanagement of player injuries and fitness. Keep throwing money at the club that is giving nothing in return.  The club is not accountable to its supporters.  Stuff them!!!

Joel Smith being a Prime example! clearly injured in a meaningless JLT Garbage game he was forced to STAY OUT THERE when clearly injured Serious serious questions need to be asked!! Rubbish player management suburban footy stuff really!

  On 22/04/2019 at 07:35, picket fence said:

Well what GREAT FRIGGEN VALUE HE HAS BEEN!!!

Hopefully that send May overseas, where Preuss went Pre season ... to get some real workload into May, aerobically.

  On 22/04/2019 at 07:39, picket fence said:

Joel Smith being a Prime example! clearly injured in a meaningless JLT Garbage game he was forced to STAY OUT THERE when clearly injured Serious serious questions need to be asked!! Rubbish player management suburban footy stuff really!

Thats spot on  'PF'.

One of the worst decisions I can recall,  sending a player back out injured with a groin injury,  and making it so much worse in a meaningless practice game

  On 22/04/2019 at 06:49, DeeSpencer said:

Chad Wingard looks is awful shape and is only just going for the Hawks.

Looks OK this arvo

Any news on Preuss? Heard his shoulder is giving him issues?

Must admit, at least big Preuss is playing his role. Cant fault his effort the past 2 weeks and someone who we just need to continue to gove games now that our season is shot.

After we get smashed by the Tigers, I would try out all the guys that can cope physically, to see who stays on the list next year.

I would rest all injured players like Tom Mc and put a line through Lever and May and let them be cherry ripe for next year,  after a full pre season.

I would make sure we get a good kid in the mid season draft.

I would chase the best conditioning guy around.

I would look at the assistant coaches and set up deals to get the best available in place for next year. 

I would be prepared to delist anyone who is not up to it at season end, even if that number is 12-14 players. Of course the core of good players must be kept.

I would target pace and skill in the draft, a key forward and an extra rookie experienced ruckman as Insurance, and to help Casey in developing their AFL listed players.

I would free up the game style for the rest of the season, playing a more basic game and letting players take the game on.

While not tanking, I would make development, not winning the key.

We have the basis of a good side which needs some consolidation and filling the gaps in a list that is not well balanced.

One bad year is bearable, if the next 5 are successful.

Anyway that’s how I see it now, with the long injury list and poor start to the season.

PS. If we win the next 4 ignore my post, but given our current circumstances that won’t be happening.

Edited April 22, 20196 yr by Redleg

  On 22/04/2019 at 08:03, Redleg said:

After we get smashed by the Tigers, I would try out all the guys that can cope physically to see who stays on the list next year.

I would rest all injured players like Tom Mc and put a line through Lever and May and let them be cherry ripe for next year after a full pre season.

I would make sure we get a good kid in the mid season draft.

I would chase the best conditioning guy around.

I would look at the assistant coaches and set up deals to get the best available in place for next year. 

I would be prepared to delist anyone who is not up to it at season end even if that number is 12-14 players. Of course the core of good players must be kept.

I would target pace and skill in the draft and a key forward and an extra rookie experienced ruckman as Insurance and to help Casey developing players.

I would free up the game style for the rest of the season playing a more basic game and letting players take the game on.

While not tanking I would make development not winning the key.

We have the basis of a good side which needs consolidation and filling the gaps in a list that is not well balanced.

One bad year is bearable if the next 5 are successful.

Anyway that’s how I see it now with the long injury list and poor start to the season.

I pretty much agree with all of that Red.

Steven May's preparation is clearly an absolute joke. Fingers crossed we have a strong enough culture to carry people like him for the next few years until he sorts his standards out. 

Lots of footy to play, but all signs point to this being an unmitigated disaster.

  On 22/04/2019 at 06:11, Wiseblood said:

Also, [censored] happens.

If I were Goody I'd be looking, firstly, at bringing Petty into the side.  If May is out long term, and Lever isn't due back for 5-6 at least, then it's time to see if this kid is up to it.  His form hasn't been too bad and he can't do any worse than Oscar has.

Josh Wagner might also get an extended run, while we know Jay Lockhart can play down there as well.

I'm annoyed, but I'd rather look at what we can get out of it than moaning about it.

Petty was killed by the U18s last week. He very much can do worse than Oscar, even on this season's form. You just have to think about his debut. No use bringing the saviour kids in like its 2009 if they can't do a job against underaged opposition.

  On 22/04/2019 at 06:17, Wiseblood said:

Be prepared for this comment re: his recruitment to be littered throughout the thread.

While May was unprofessional with the way in which he approached pre-season, and I'm willing to give him a little leeway as he came from the worst club in the comp, we can't judge this deal until he retires.  Moaning about the deal just because it's hit a roadblock early in the piece isn't solving anything.  

We know the bloke can play.  If he is part of a premiership side, with Lever right beside him, then I'll be a happy man.  I'm judging it on that.

Hitting a roadblock implies that this was unavoidable. This is more like driving with your phone in one hand, a dart in the other and three kids in the backseat and then wondering why the police have pulled you over.

  On 22/04/2019 at 06:51, Sir Why You Little said:

That hurts. Lynch has hit the ground running. We will see him rip us apart on Wednesday night

Not entirely true. There were question marks over his shape in pre-season as well. Obviously he knuckled down, shut his mouth, and worked his way back into shape.

What is the source of the May news? I haven't seen anything anywhere except here

Saw May on Saturday at the ground.  A big boy, looked in pretty good nick.  Wouldn’t be saying too much to his face, that’s for sure!

  On 22/04/2019 at 08:18, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

What is the source of the May news? I haven't seen anything anywhere except here

Yeah me either. 

The original poster said it was mentioned in Ch.7 but I can’t see it anywhere. 

Our current injury dilemma will be the opportunity for Petty, Kielty and Oskar Baker to break into the side and get a real taste if AFL level footy. 

Similarly you would think Jeffy will get a go and young Lockhart who has over delivered from being a total nobody only 5 weeks ago.

We won't win too many games blooding young talent but they may inject the enthusiasm and urgency we so badly lack.

The players expected to return from injury in the back half of the year should not be rushed, as is our tendency to do.

As for the game plan, it is too late to change it now, we recruited for it. However, it should be obvious it needs to be reviewed and enhanced with outside pace seen as important as hard nuts.

Having been here so many times before over the last 50 years plus, l am very disappointed but not destroyed by our current position. 

I believe the players the coaches and the admin crew are all fully aware of the damage we have already done to our so called "brand".

We have passed the close enough is good enough mentality of prior decades in my view, this is serious and will be treated as such at all levels.

 

This season can just go and eat a bag. 

So much excitement completely obliterated within a month.