11 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

ANB just runs a lot but not enough 2 help us get better

Im assuming you’re one of Goodwins assistants with that comment.  Lets keep the same players in then, that don’t run and chase.  

 

12 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

When are teams announced? 

Most likely today either 12pm or 6pm

Edited April 21, 20195 yr by Nudge

53 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Tyypical from someone who would not have a clue.

And how would you know??

please explain in detail...

20 hours ago, Stormy Dee said:

Spargo is 173cm=5ft8inches.

Lou Richards was 170cm allegedly although he looked shorter than that when I met him.

Aaron Davey is 177cm.

I don’t care how tall he is - can’t play. The stats prove this. He may be ok in a few years. But not now

10 hours ago, Deemanding said:

Does Christian Petracca have a left foot? Continually getting caught out turning to the right, when clear opportunities are available on his left. Beggars belief a No 2 draft pick is so weak on their left side. I like to see his stats of left sided kicks and handballs, compared to his right. Has the potential to be a star but needs to use his left side whether by foot or hand  when it is the first and best option.

 

 

He can’t even kick straight with his right. How about that set shot missed goal from 25m directly in front against St Kilda?

Goody must know this season is cooked unless he makes some dramatic changes ... even with limited personnel.. the fixture ahead is tough with tigers, pies and eagles twice, hawks giants crows and saints again, and seven possible wins against flakey sides akin to us .. dockers, Lions, blues, dogs, swans , suns, and Roos... but at this point it’s hard to see a win ahead.

Here’s an idea Goody for the tigers ...

Back six ..

Lockhart TMac (Lynch) Hore

Salem Frost (Jack R) Frittata 

Front six..

Melksham Weed Hunt

Garlett  Preuss Chandler

Mid six..

Oliver Harmes (Martin) Brayshaw

Gawn Viney Stretch 

(Oliver and Brayshaw to the wings)

I/C... Petracca Sparrow J Wagner Keilty

Out.. Lewis, Jones, Hibberd (managed) Jetta (sore) Spargo, C Wagner (omitted)

In.. Stretch, Sparrow, Garlett, Chandler, Lockhart Keilty

 

Come on Goody show some imagination!

 

 

45 minutes ago, grey wolf said:

Goody must know this season is cooked unless he makes some dramatic changes ... even with limited personnel.. the fixture ahead is tough with tigers, pies and eagles twice, hawks giants crows and saints again, and seven possible wins against flakey sides akin to us .. dockers, Lions, blues, dogs, swans , suns, and Roos... but at this point it’s hard to see a win ahead.

Here’s an idea Goody for the tigers ...

Back six ..

Lockhart TMac (Lynch) Hore

Salem Frost (Jack R) Frittata 

Front six..

Melksham Weed Hunt

Garlett  Preuss Chandler

Mid six..

Oliver Harmes (Martin) Brayshaw

Gawn Viney Stretch 

(Oliver and Brayshaw to the wings)

I/C... Petracca Sparrow J Wagner Keilty

Out.. Lewis, Jones, Hibberd (managed) Jetta (sore) Spargo, C Wagner (omitted)

In.. Stretch, Sparrow, Garlett, Chandler, Lockhart Keilty

 

Come on Goody show some imagination!

 

 

I love it, BUT might have a few other positional changes. Agree with all outs except Jones who plays midfield

Not sure about Gus and Clarry on wings

Big Tim Smith also comes in 

Something like this 

B  SALEM  T MAC  HORE

HB FRITTA  FROST  HUNT

C SPARROW JONES CHANDLER

HF MELKSHAM  KEILTY  PETRACCA

F GARLETT  BULL SMITH LOCKHART

RUCKS  GAWN  CLARRY  HARMES 

INTER  WEEDS, STRETCH , VINEY , GUS 

INNS  SPARROW, CHANDLER, GARLETT KEILTY, BULL SMITH LOCKHART  STRETCH ( 7 INNS)

OUTS PRUESS inj, JETTA Inj, WAGNERS BOTH, SPARGO ,HIBBERD  AND LEWIS ( RETIREMENT) 

Offers pace on wings run of half back strength in the spine and crumbers in Full Forward 3 

Thoughts?? ( Wont happen though club is scared to drop/ rest a few big names) But I'm with you Grey Wolf

Cmon Goody be BOLD!

Edited April 22, 20195 yr by picket fence

Won’t really matter unfortunately, Richmond will win by 10 goals plus 

17 minutes ago, brendan said:

Won’t really matter unfortunately, Richmond will win by 10 goals plus 

That probably correct but at least if you try some new thing you may uncover some nuggets. Definitely would not drop Jones he won us the game against Swans. Really like TMac to defence.

OUT- meaningless post-game statements from the coach, such as:

• "we're easy to play against" (why is that- bad plan perhaps?)
• "we're still getting some supply but we're getting beaten in transition" (sound like middle management speak to me)
• "there is a lot of things going wrong in our game at the moment" (not S*#t Sherlock)
• "it's really challenging to play the way we want to play" (it looks good at training without any opposition)
• "were breaking down in a few too many areas" (So....is there a fix in sight?)
• "we need to connect better with the ball" (isn't this a fundamental skill for a team playing football?)
• "Our boys are disappointed, our club is disappointed and our fans are disappointed" (another statement stating the bloody obvious)

IN - post-game statements from the coach that show insight and honesty:

• "the plan we devised preseason is being exploited by the competition and we are developing a new plan - fast"
• "some of the assistant coaches are not up  to it and I have briefed Mahoney and Pert to get some new ones - spewing Ratten went to Saints"
• "its time to focus on 2020, as our GF window is still open, but I need to start blooding some younger players, which unfortunately means some of our "old warriors" like Jordan and Nathan will need to spend time in the VFL teaching our young talent"
• " we have completely stuffed up at the selection table, both this year and last, which probably cost us the double chance last year. I made a mistake sticking with players who I thought would find form, unfortunately, they didn't"
• "I wish I could reverse some of the trades we made, some of the players we kept will never make it, and some we let go we could have developed- except I insisted on a culture that worships "hard contested footy"- Unfortunately for me, the club, the players and the fans the game is now all about  players with "super fast, elite footy skills" and we don't have too many of those"
• "I honestly did not think that the rule changes brought in by that D*#khead Steve Hocking would impact on our plan as much as it had - sorry"
• "I admit now, that all the surgery the boys had preseason has impacted both our ability to execute our game plan and our belief that  we could get by in the first 6 rounds while they got back to full fitness"
• "we totally had our "eye of the ball" or should I say "off Steve May" and should have done a fitness test on him as we signed him. That way we would have known his fitness was sub-par and we could have put in a regime to ensure he was not the most unfit player a the Dees. Even our first year players outran him- I was not happy Jan"

 

 

2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Tyypical from someone who would not have a clue.

Disagree, DD. Most probably a sensible - and rational - evaluation. Would Roos, for example, or other mainline coaches tolerate such ineffectiveness, repeatedly? Would these other coaches allow a season to be destroyed by losing such a list of ball-winners, by mishandling players and recruits on medical lists, by allowing 'big' recruits to arrive unready for the rigours of football, by not competently developing younger players with outstanding skills and aptitudes? He has been less that successful as a coach by pushing a series of onfield strategies that have questionable outcomes, are completely misinterpreted, misunderstood and poorly applied by the players themselves,  and then, despite the evidence all around him, stubbornly refusing to change to alternatively successful methodologies?

3 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Tyypical from someone who would not have a clue.

 

3 hours ago, Nudge said:

Talk about your typical “Sack the Coach” OTT simpleton dramatist -  How about to take a Valium or two with a  Xanax Chaser & Nitrazapam mixed w/oxazepam combo Cocktail?

Simon Goodwin isn’t the issue - the players not running back defensively, constantly making poor rotational judgements in transition - followed by poorly executed gob [censored] decisions w/ball heading inside 50 combined with the fact that ALL our high intercept high IQ defensive talls & contested marks up fwd  are either out, or entirely out of form due to being hurt by all the above?! Joel Smith was to be our 3rd tall up fwd that could take a grab AND apply pressure, Garlett was is only now fit - which we’ve missed dearly for groundball issues & May/Lever/T Smith have all been out inj too as well as KK not getting decent run now Lewis having no continuity and just coming back in - we have ZERO continuity and all combined it equals a [censored] start - it’s really that simple but thats FOOTY!!! Our pre season showed us up in R1-2 Essendon we just came up against a team that was red hot and didn’t miss and we didn’t capitalise when on top.. LW was awful and worst loss so far but again the issues listed above can easily be factor and thems the brakes - StK go some good fortune and ran away, we didn’t connect up fwd and lost structure way too often which combined with personnel issues meant a poor loss!!!

If you can’t handle the ups and downs of a game where these things happen to teams all the time then maybe think about supporting soccer more or NBL which is great quality now, less of these types of issues by someways but even then you’ll still get issues and luck that falls against your team so I dunno.. quidditch?! 

Seriously - Yes it’s bloody horrible but I’m so damn sick of ppl always blaming same BS and taking their own insecurities out on the club.. we had some crappy luck and have major continuity issues re personnel and it happens to of made gaps in gameplan worse but it Will turn, Saints proving it now with AWFUL list but they’ve had continuity and are resetting to a simpler style that makes them competitive but ultimately will need to be overhauled to take next step, like we had to 30 months ago.. Their supporters wanted Richo’s head for YEARS & the very same are the ones all over social media banging on about their LOVE for the club etc it’s such a cliche - Faaaarrrkkkkkk!!!

 

Fingers crossed May Lever gets 10 weeks to click and they have massive pre seasons for lead a huge push into next year and in process turn form around wherein we win half our games and compete for 8th with a sneaky shot - that’s our lot this year I’m afraid but we support for the long game not the short!

 

I am telling you NOW - If we sack Goodwin (wouldn’t, ever but let’s say we did and he hadn’t re-signed) we’d be set back 24 months!!! It’s just idiocy to blame him and to compare him to NEELD?!?! 

 

Talk about apples and oranges - [censored] it’s more like apples and compost!

Maybe sit back when we’ve got some back in 6-8 weeks and see what we turn out then, I suggest it’ll be a “miracle” turnaround that the media say came from “nowhere”.. pffttt!!!

 

You make some good points Nudge

but one aspect worries me. 

During the first half of the Preliminary Final last year we were completely and utterly smashed and annihilated. 

and we are still playing the same way. 

1 goal during quarters 2 and 3, in a game that was on the line on our home deck. 

Why were Lewis and Jones playing the wings?

that is White Flag stuff

i was in shock when i saw that

(sorry about the font change, not sure why that happened!!)

I thought St Kilda played through Spargo for a lot of the game. he was regulalry caught between players which opened up their free man. So, Spargo out. I also thought neither Wagner contributed much. So, my Outs are Spargo, J and O Wagner. In would be Stretch, Garlett and ANB. 

That would make the seven defenders Frost, Hibberd, Lewis, Salem, Fritsch, Hore and Jetta. (Lewis MUST NOT PLAY ON THE WING).

 

16 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Not sure why everyone wants ANB back in. 

Our biggest weakness against St Kilda was when players got caught off their man, particularly in our forward line. It happened regularly with Spargo (to the extent that I think St Kilda identified this as a weakness and played through him as much as possible). ANB makes lots of skill errors, but the one thing he does well is keep pressure on opponents. That's why I would bring ANB back in. 

Curious. What would the plan be after Saturday? Recovery yesterday, review today, a few laps and kick to kick tomorrow? 

I read Viney has been cleared after scans on his hand yesterday. Some good news there I suppose.

Given the skill levels of our VFL players, I don’t think it’s going to make too much difference whoever we bring in - but I would like to see Fritta and Hunt play full time on the wings - and certainly not Lewis and Jones.

Edited April 22, 20195 yr by Neil Crompton

16 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Who’s left, I’d drop both Jones and Lewis but it won’t happen. ANB is the best of what’s left in terms of experience until AVB/Hannan are good to go.

 

KK (1.450) and Stretch (1.825) have been marginally better statistically BA.  A coin flip on KK vs ANB though.

ANB was just too far off his best over the first 3 rounds and i don't think he's done enough to justify a recall before those two, albeit it's a very close call, i still think they just get the nod if we had to choose....

12 hours ago, nosoupforme said:

Changes will happen but how many? Maybe 3 to  due to a compulsory one in Preuss who had his shoulder injected and won't be risked against Richmond.  Jetta touch and go knee ? why risk him.

We dropped a tall in Omac  and didn't replace him with another tall. and Membery  marked  everything  that came his way.

So 3 speedsters and 2 talls      have to come in I suppose. 

IN.      Garlett  Stretch    Lockhart  Keilty and  Petty  at CHB . 

OUT. Preuss and Jetta  ( injured ) Spargo,   Cory Wagner and  Lewis  Rested  for ever ?????  

Pruess injured NoSoup.

Good changes aside from the forced Pruess which is unfortunate.

But if it's a choice between Lewis or Petty i would be going Lewis provided he is being played in his usual position as HB sweeper.  If not then a scarecrow on the wing might be a better option.  Petty's last entre' on the big stage wasn't Pretty unfortunately.  Would not be risking another entre' untill he's busting the door down at Casey and we are sitting on positive Wins v Losses.  2020 maybe?

The main problem is we have no key position forwards, the Weid will never be and Tmac is in worse form than playing me. Put Tmac back in the back line to hopefully get his mojo back and replace the Weid with Keilty how could he be worse. As for Spargo I have been saying for years now he is a short player of average talent. They don't make it al AFL level. we will finish near the bottom this year but lets at least have a team on the field that has some ability/ desire and not continue to hope a miracle happens to the talent of some players ability.

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

 

You make some good points Nudge

but one aspect worries me. 

During the first half of the Preliminary Final last year we were completely and utterly smashed and annihilated. 

and we are still playing the same way. 

1 goal during quarters 2 and 3, in a game that was on the line on our home deck. 

Why were Lewis and Jones playing the wings?

that is White Flag stuff

i was in shock when i saw that

(sorry about the font change, not sure why that happened!!)

I thought you were just really trying to get your point across 

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

I thought you were just really trying to get your point across 

Not this time, but it does help!!

4 hours ago, Nudge said:

Most likely today either 12pm or 6pm

Tomorrow night more likely

Drove past Gosch’s Paddock about an hour ago. We must have been training as there were a number of support staff packing up the oval, although the players were not training. I did see Mitch Hannan doing 1 on 1 work with a coach. Marking drills. Obviously after the main session finished. I hope this means he is progressing well and we see him soon. 

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Edited April 22, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

We can’t play Weid/TMac/Preuss in the same forward line. Teams walk it out when it hits the ground.

If all three are to play TMac to play CHB and take one of Lynch/Riewoldt. We have been hiding him up forward and he’s in Struggletown big time. 

ANB may have had plenty of it in the twos but still butchered it from all accounts. He has to stay and work on that as he’s a momentum killer in the ones and the biggest down hill skier we have. I’d be disappointed if he was back in.

Stretch didn’t deserve to be dropped after one match and should come back in. Garlett as well must play.

Lewis, well I loved recruiting him and his first year and a half I was a big fan. He has his superfund topped up and now he can sail into the sunset. He will be destroyed by the tigs leg speed. It’s time to put a line through him like the hawks did courageously three years back. I hate the hawks but admire the way clarko is ruthless to win.

So for me:

Out: C Wagner and Lewis

In: Stretch and Garlett.