POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Geelong

[Demonsone 2,043]

Enough said  55 years will be 56 yrs of failure 

[Demonland 73,140]

I’m going a bit early but I don’t think we can win this one.

[McQueen 17,867]

[Wiseblood 24,637]

It's two things.  You can pin it on specific players all you like, but individuals aren't really the problem for us right now.  It's how quickly we move the ball, and the poor use of the ball going forward.

Both are related.  We get it, we bomb it and we generally turn it over at the moment.  Our gameplan is to kick it in there, keep it in there and get a goal.  Every now and then we might hit a lead, or get someone out the back, but it's a rarity.  Teams have pretty much worked us out when we go forward.  A prime example for me was the first foray forward in the last term.  Melksham marks, turns and kicks... to basically a three on one, as the Cats all went straight to the hot spot.  When the ball hits the deck they have the numbers, because we usually don't move it quick enough, and then they run it down the other end as they've set up to do so, while we have sent numbers forward to lock the ball in.  They have acres of space to hit targets and we can't defend it. 

I'm an optimist, but this isn't working.  We need to look closely at it.   What's the fix?  Weideman and Tom McDonald can't get near it, so we get stuck into them, but what chance to they have when the ball is kicked long to a contest all the time?  What are they supposed to do?  I know we have players down on form, but the way we go about things doesn't help.  Shifting a few out for others won't change a whole lot at this stage.

I thought our efforts around the ball were much, much better.  We had a dip pretty much all night and worked hard to match them in all areas.  Our ball use was poor, though, while they took every chance they got.  Think about the third term.  We kicked a few points - one of them being a goal might have changed our mindset, changed our outlook.  But we missed them all, they scored one from one entry and it was pretty much all over.

I mean, getting it forward isn't the problem for us.  Using it properly and/or keeping it in there, is.

Positives?  Our mids worked hard all night.  I like the look of young Sparrow and what he can bring to the side.  KK will be better for the run.  Outside of that, there isn't a whole lot else.

Individuals aren't the problem, here.  As I said, we have players down on form, but they aren't the core issues right now.  The game plan is the major issue.  We need to fix it and quick.  It's not panic stations for me yet.  We can easily still make finals.  But we need to change it up to do it.

Chin up, people.  Let's do our best to stick by the club and hope we bring the same intent, and better usage forward of the ball, on Friday night.  If we do then we win and get our season back on track.

[WERRIDEE 5,504]

I spent $615 on a redlegs membership for a guaranteed grand final ticket. For what? Watching this crap? Our forward line and backline are a shambles and we are slow and can't use the ball properly. Only a handful of players putting in and that is only the start of our problems. 

You fooled me once Melbourne you won't fool me again. Back to 3 game membership for me. What a disgrace this club is.

[What 18,810]

Still too many VFL level players, headed by Frost, O Mac and Hunt.

And Sparrow is not close to being ready.

[drdrake 3,187]

Cant blame backline, no forward pressure no mid field pressure our year is done.  10 to 16th we will finish

[Wiseblood 24,637]

BEST 22 TEAMS WERRIDEE CAN SUPPORT INSTEAD:

B:  RICHMOND,  FREMANTLE,  COLLINGWOOD

HB:  NORTH BALLARAT, FRANKSTON, RINGWOOD

C   CARLTON, FOOTSCRAY, UNIVERSITY

HF:  NORF, MARYBOROUGH, BELL PARK

FF:  CORIO, SHEPPARTON, BRISBAND

RUCK:  GEELONG, GEELONG, GEELONG

BENCH:  CASEY, SANDRINGHAM, WILLIAMSTOWN, OLD COLLEGIANS

[WERRIDEE 5,504]

Looks like we will be talking about draft picks soon. HOORAY!

[Wiseblood 24,637]

5 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Still too many VFL level players, headed by Frost, O Mac and Hunt.

And Sparrow is not close to being ready.

Again, right now, it really isn't the problem.  The game plan is.  We bomb it, they get it and then run it down in space to score.  Rinse and repeat.

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

We cracked 45,000 members during the week. What's the odds we don't surpass 47k?

[Demonland 73,140]

25 more inside 50s. Lose by 80 points. 

[faultydet 7,619]

Stopped watching very early 2nd qtr, when it was apparent we were no better than last week.

 

Ok, we know the talent is there, so what happened?

Was it effort?

Was it game plan?

Was it literally "one of those nights"?

 

[Ante_Up 69]

Just now, Wiseblood said:

BEST 22 TEAMS WERRIDEE CAN SUPPORT INSTEAD:

B:  RICHMOND,  FREMANTLE,  COLLINGWOOD

HB:  NORTH BALLARAT, FRANKSTON, RINGWOOD

C   CARLTON, FOOTSCRAY, UNIVERSITY

HF:  NORF, MARYBOROUGH, BELL PARK

FF:  CORIO, SHEPPARTON, BRISBAND

RUCK:  GEELONG, GEELONG, GEELONG

BENCH:  CASEY, SANDRINGHAM, WILLIAMSTOWN, OLD COLLEGIANS

I am srsly disappointed you couldn’t slot the early 90s Manangatang 1sts in there. Total sizzle.

 

Ouyen had a mean streak AND the Dees colours (their pies weren’t as good as they didn’t serve those soft flakey lake boga pies but do stuff em) and the less said about Sea Lake the better 

[Dockett 32 1,239]

2 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Looks like we will be talking about draft picks soon. HOORAY!

Have we got any?

[drdrake 3,187]

Oliver and Viney well done the rest can get stuffed

[Jaded No More 68,973]

The club that never fails to disappoint. 

[faultydet 7,619]

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

 24 more inside 50s. Lose by 80 points. 

I will bet many of those extra inside 50's were a result of chaotic back and forth at the 50, under intense pressure, and not actual targeted inside 50's

[reynolds46 1,273]

Sadly the club thinks playing a couple of good finals last year was a great achievement but too quickly overlooked the dismal showing in the preliminary final. Too many short comings in th team that haven’t been addressed 

[Deesprate 1,324]

One word. Misery. Fifty years of this crap. We were never going to win this game but didn’t even give a yelp. Good clubs Geelong, Hawthorn just keep winning loser clubs like Melbourne alway fail. We are so far off it year on year of crap at least we won’t have the misery of another flooding in the finals. Sure we will get more Goodwin [censored].

[Nelo 813]

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

The club that never fails to disappoint. 

Sad to say I expect it. 

[P-man 13,366]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 24 more inside 50s. Lose by 80 points. 

I hadn’t seen that stat. That’s actually hilarious.

[TRIGON 4,790]

SIMON GOODWIN’S UNDER 13 D’s

[—coach— 3,496]

11 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

It's two things.  You can pin it on specific players all you like, but individuals aren't really the problem for us right now.  It's how quickly we move the ball, and the poor use of the ball going forward.

Both are related.  We get it, we bomb it and we generally turn it over at the moment.  Our gameplan is to kick it in there, keep it in there and get a goal.  Every now and then we might hit a lead, or get someone out the back, but it's a rarity.  Teams have pretty much worked us out when we go forward.  A prime example for me was the first foray forward in the last term.  Melksham marks, turns and kicks... to basically a three on one, as the Cats all went straight to the hot spot.  When the ball hits the deck they have the numbers, because we usually don't move it quick enough, and then they run it down the other end as they've set up to do so, while we have sent numbers forward to lock the ball in.  They have acres of space to hit targets and we can't defend it. 

I'm an optimist, but this isn't working.  We need to look closely at it.   What's the fix?  Weideman and Tom McDonald can't get near it, so we get stuck into them, but what chance to they have when the ball is kicked long to a contest all the time?  What are they supposed to do?  I know we have players down on form, but the way we go about things doesn't help.  Shifting a few out for others won't change a whole lot at this stage.

I thought our efforts around the ball were much, much better.  We had a dip pretty much all night and worked hard to match them in all areas.  Our ball use was poor, though, while they took every chance they got.  Think about the third term.  We kicked a few points - one of them being a goal might have changed our mindset, changed our outlook.  But we missed them all, they scored one from one entry and it was pretty much all over.

I mean, getting it forward isn't the problem for us.  Using it properly and/or keeping it in there, is.

Positives?  Our mids worked hard all night.  I like the look of young Sparrow and what he can bring to the side.  KK will be better for the run.  Outside of that, there isn't a whole lot else.

Individuals aren't the problem, here.  As I said, we have players down on form, but they aren't the core issues right now.  The game plan is the major issue.  We need to fix it and quick.  It's not panic stations for me yet.  We can easily still make finals.  But we need to change it up to do it.

Chin up, people.  Let's do our best to stick by the club and hope we bring the same intent, and better usage forward of the ball, on Friday night.  If we do then we win and get our season back on track.

Excellent summary Wise. Thanks for level head when all else are loosing theirs

[brendan 3,437]

Season over after round 2, how I have missed that