17 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

So Have I got this right, The only two thing that needed fixing - The Being to close to the mark and the Ruck rules have not beed fixed. 

Yes

3 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

I might be wrong here as well but doesn't the ump blow time off when he pays 50. 

I believe also yes.

 

 

another example of bureaucratic stupidity from the AFL.

 

SACK GILL, SACK HOCKING.

Whats the penalty if you don't line up in the 6 6 6 format, or what happens if the player from the other team follows and both teams are not in 6 6 6. 

The two worst rules are still there??!

Ruck nominations and protected zone??

grabbing the ball from the ruck is now going to become a really frequent thing

must say I did not see that coming

Mason Cox will love it as will the likes of Nic Natanui

So they haven’t gotten rid of the absurd ruck nomination.

You really have to wonder sometimes.

FMD, rules committee should be renamed confusion committee. Still nominating a ruckman is so effing ridiculous and time wasting. Don’t mind that the ruckman can take possession at bounce and throw in’s, it’s the only thing they seem too have got right. Did they even look at the interpretation of the so called taking out of the legs, they’ve had plenty of examples of where it was paid when it shouldn’t have, eg. Brayshaw. Our game is fast, chaotic and tough to umpire, players make mistakes so do umpires, the basic rules I remember (a long time ago) playing under have been totally compromised with all the add on’s that have been created or should that be “upgraded”. Thank f...k I love our Demons, and I like footy’s new “chaotic” game, the players these days are super athletes, the confusion committee should go back too the basics. 

 

3 hours ago, Mr Steve said:

So Have I got this right, The only two thing that needed fixing - The Being to close to the mark and the Ruck rules have not beed fixed. 

Correct

And there would have been a huge amiunt of resources dedicated to this over the past 12 months ?‍♂️

49 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

3 votes Max Gawn in the midfielder's award

This is classic AFL incompetence.

They spend all year focusing on congestion and then they bring in a rule which will increase congestion (removing prior opportunity for ruckmen, who can now just grab it out of the ruck and be tackled, forcing repeat stoppages).

I don't hate any of the rule changes per se, I just hate having to learn new rules every year. It makes me feel very sorry for the umpires, especially when there are a few changes in there that are ripe for making judgement errors.  

Ho hum. I'd love to know where the AFL are getting their intel that the fans want the rules changed in order to make the game more interesting or whatever. I'm in my mid 30s and have seen the style of the game change heaps over time, including the Terry Wallace flood and the Paul Roos turn everything in to a scrap being in vogue, and I've never had my interest in the game affected by it. The main thing that affects my interest level is how the Dees are going. 

The hands in the back rule is going - we'll be back where we started with just a push in the back. Was unnecessary and confusing when it was brought in and no doubt confusing again when removed

I'm predicting a disaster for umpiring interpretation, if Steve's explanation is anything to go by

 

 

Edited October 11, 20187 yr by Graeme Yeats' Mullet

I must he completely missing the point of some of these. No more kicking to yourself after a kick in? Talk about fixing something that wasn’t broken. 

i don't understand how some of these changes were not potential changes that were discussed with all the groups and stakeholders towards the end of the season. at least not reported in the media. seem to be last minutes changes.

9 hours ago, red and blue forever said:

I can't believe they left the ruck rules the same. everyone  knows how to fix it, and probably one of the few that has almost complete consensus.....

 

 

also surprised the left interchange the same (I don't mind it but I am surprised.)

I'll bite mr know-it-all. How do you prevent players blocking the ruckman if no one nominates as a ruckman? 

9 hours ago, Deefiant said:

I'll bite mr know-it-all. How do you prevent players blocking the ruckman if no one nominates as a ruckman? 

what?

 

2 players jump for the ball in the ruck contest. if  a third goes up. blow the whistle free kick.

 

that is the change I am suggesting, and the one I have heard everywhere  all year.

 

you don't agree?

 

it is not about blocking the ruckman. it is about 3rd man up.

 

it would be easy for the up to call an illegal shepherd or equivalent if someone is blocking he path of the ruckman obviously trying to jump for the ruck.

 

and if it is such a mystery, how do you block a ruck if you don't even know who  it is???

 

 

1 hour ago, red and blue forever said:

what?

 

2 players jump for the ball in the ruck contest. if  a third goes up. blow the whistle free kick.

 

that is the change I am suggesting, and the one I have heard everywhere  all year.

 

you don't agree?

 

it is not about blocking the ruckman. it is about 3rd man up.

 

it would be easy for the up to call an illegal shepherd or equivalent if someone is blocking he path of the ruckman obviously trying to jump for the ruck.

 

and if it is such a mystery, how do you block a ruck if you don't even know who  it is???

 

 

No nomination and again  Mr Brayshaw is not penalised for the mouse trap down at gheelong, I dislike the nominating. The rule was to stop the 3rd man up, "simplesness" penalise the fool who's infringing. 

• Where there is uncertainty over who is the designated ruckman, the ruckman for each team will still be required to nominate to the field umpire. 

Presumably they mean uncertainty in the umpire's mind. So players will now have to read umpire's minds now in order to know they need to nominate.

Appalling they haven't fixed the contact below the knees rubbish.

The new 50m play-on rule sounds like madness.  The penalty is often too big already.  If the player receiving the 50m wants to get to his new mark quickly the main impediment is the speed of the umpire running backwards.  Will he be allowed to overtake the umpire? Will that be the moment he calls play-on?  Will the oppos running alongside the player getting the 50m have to stay 10 metres away I wonder?    Has the AFL thought out the details?

On 10/11/2018 at 6:35 PM, Demonland said:

 

I think this rule change has been overlooked. It could be huge for us and anyone else with a tall, dominant ruck.

Gawn, who generally gets first hands on the ball, will be able to do a quick, clearing handball to our mids. He should be even more important next year. Preuss at 206cm could also be handy and Bradtke is same height (?).

This could inadvertently be the biggest of all the rule changes for us. I look forward to hearing training reports over the summer as to how they practice for this change 

Get on Maxy for the 2019 Brownlow 

Geez I miss Demetriou

Kick in rule will be interesting. 

Use a backman with loads of pace and a thumping kick. Should put the ball well over the centre.

I.e. Frosty