whatwhat say what 23,854 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, sisso said: If Preuss is so great how come he couldn't get a game with North all season? Looks a bit of a lumbering dinosaur to me Goldstein was back to his best form, Majak was playing well, Brown and Waite and others held forward spots... I am clutching at straws as I personally rate Tyson far more highly than Preuss... Quote
Smokey 4,391 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) I can’t believe people actually think Tyson is in our best 22. He is depth only with a full strength list. Straight swap is fine. Ruckmen don’t grow on trees. Inside midfielders do at Melbourne however. Edited October 9, 2018 by Smokey 2 Quote
Demon_JB 1,389 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Anyone else concerned with our lack of depth after this trade period? Quote
drysdale demon 4,837 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, juzzk1d said: Anyone else concerned with our lack of depth after this trade period? No Quote
Guest Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Preuss for Tyson isn't even speculative about who wins that. North get a 20 plus possession midfielder and we get a bloke who has barely played. You do the math. If they want that deal to go ahead, shuffling of draft picks will need to come into it (or another club potentially). This isn't Essendon style over rating of our players but simply not wanting to get pantsed. Quote
Bonkers 994 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, juzzk1d said: Anyone else concerned with our lack of depth after this trade period? I would need to look at who we bring in after the trade period to judge. If we lose our depth players and can't bring players back the other way....potentially yes. 1 Quote
old55 23,860 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 If Tyson is on $500k as suggested here then there's salary cap dump involved too which helps our cause. I expect Preuss will come on less per year over 4 years. That is a factor in evening out the trade value. 5 Quote
buck_nekkid 6,101 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 AFL site now reporting it is Hartlett, not Pittard???? Quote
DemonLad5 1,642 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said: AFL site now reporting it is Hartlett, not Pittard???? Haven't seen that? Definitely Pittard Quote
Lil_red_fire_engine 11,383 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 11 hours ago, TheoX said: Straight swap for Preuss? Ew, guy can't get a game at Norf, Tyson is best 22 for us. Preuss will play VFL unless Max is injured. Teams play maximum two rucks with most playing one. Teams play how many midfielders and even more so how many inside midfielders? If we lose one inside mid in 2019 how much will you panic? If Gawn went down next year how much will you panic? Preuss is worth as much as Tyson. You could potentially argue more. 11 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,728 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said: Teams play maximum two rucks with most playing one. Teams play how many midfielders and even more so how many inside midfielders? If we lose one inside mid in 2019 how much will you panic? If Gawn went down next year how much will you panic? Preuss is worth as much as Tyson. You could potentially argue more. 100% agree. There are plenty of one-paced mids out there. Perhaps we've already got something in the works and know Tyson will be surplus to needs.... Andy Brayshaw perhaps?? Speculation only. 2 Quote
DemonLad5 1,642 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said: 100% agree. There are plenty of one-paced mids out there. Perhaps we've already got something in the works and know Tyson will be surplus to needs.... Andy Brayshaw perhaps?? Speculation only. Corey Maynard is a very average AFL footballer but I guess he would be considered our 'insurance' inside mid who we can bring in if a few of our star mids go down 3 Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Real pity Dom doesn’t accept GC offer as it would make it easier to do the May deal without the Hogan deal. We might be able to get a better pick than we have by bundling other deals like Kent and AVB proceeds to give to GC . It would certainly take the pressure off the Hogan deal. Edited October 9, 2018 by Redleg 2 Quote
GCDee 3,202 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Really was hoping for Dom to come up to the GC, I go to a few of their games so it would give me someone to cheer on. 2 Quote
The Chazz 4,077 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said: Straight swap of Tyson for Preuss. Wtf. We must need the backup ruck role desperately. North should at least give us pick 57 or 67 as a side order to go with Preuss. They are unlikely to use them anyway. Think that was pretty obvious when we delisted Filipovic and King. In 2019, we are going to have the best ruck in the league, and a more than capable back-up who will continue to get better. A lot of sides would be in envy of our position here. 1 Quote
Mach5 4,768 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 If a straight swap isn’t a win, then what is? Tyson for Preuss plus a 4th rounder we won’t use..? 2 Quote
Dirts 429 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mach5 said: If a straight swap isn’t a win, then what is? Tyson for Preuss plus a 4th rounder we won’t use..? Thinking the swap and we get there pick 29 and take one of our 3 rd rounders Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, juzzk1d said: Anyone else concerned with our lack of depth after this trade period? It seems a little odd that we made a prelim and are making quite a few list changes. I trust the club though to be making the correct ones. Edited October 9, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said: It seems a little odd that we made a prelim and are making quite a few list changes. I trust the club though to be making the correct ones. Making the changes because we only made the Prelim. Changes get us a flag 1 Quote
buck_nekkid 6,101 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said: It seems a little odd that we made a prelim and are making quite a few list changes. I trust the club though to be making the correct ones. Hardly any changes cut into best 25 (so far). We can make these changes and get significantly better where we have gaps or nqr options. Casey will be better for it! 2 Quote
buck_nekkid 6,101 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, DemonLad5 said: Haven't seen that? Definitely Pittard Corrected back to Pittard Quote
Axis of Bob 11,945 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said: Corrected back to Pittard Surely Pittard, as it'll be a salary dump to help the deal across the line. Pittard was a free agent last year but signed a sizeable 3 year extension before spending a lot of the year playing magoos. North can only offer their pick 11 for Polec but by taking the last 2 years of Pittard's contact off Port (who are squeezed with some terrible contracts) then they can add some value to the trade .... but they can't be so far off that they need to take Hartlett's monster contact, surely. Edited October 9, 2018 by Axis of Bob Quote
buck_nekkid 6,101 Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said: Surely Pittard, as it'll be a salary dump to help the deal across the line. Pittard was a free agent last year but signed a sizeable 3 year extension before spending a lot of the year playing magoos. North can only offer their pick 11 for Polec but by taking the last 2 years of Pittard's contact off Port (who are squeezed with some terrible contracts) then they can add some value to the trade .... but they can't be so far off that they need to take Hartlett's monster contact, surely. I think it was just a case of Basil’s teleprompter. Was changed back on the website pretty quick. The dumping of salary cap sounds a valuable add on, but I wonder how the AFL see such things re trading fair value? Quote
old55 23,860 Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said: Surely Pittard, as it'll be a salary dump to help the deal across the line. Pittard was a free agent last year but signed a sizeable 3 year extension before spending a lot of the year playing magoos. North can only offer their pick 11 for Polec but by taking the last 2 years of Pittard's contact off Port (who are squeezed with some terrible contracts) then they can add some value to the trade .... but they can't be so far off that they need to take Hartlett's monster contact, surely. and North can front-load it all in 2019 again Quote
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