Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

World of difference

In what way?

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

3 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Bet bazil is loving life right now. 

[sue 9,142]

8 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Jay Clark reporting he’s past his medical/freo are satisfied with the state of his foot. 

Well that's good news if he stays at the MFC.    Does Freo use the Richmond docs though?...

[Demons11 7,051]

15 minutes ago, Dockett 32 said:

People certainly do talk rubbish. Hogan far more valuable unit than Lever.

Far more is ridiculous.   

Slightly more I’d agree but both are key position players who have far exceeded the expectations based on their age. 

If Hogan played somewhere else there is no way you would say he was worth pick 5 and 6

Edited October 10, 2018 by Demons11

[Demons11 7,051]

9 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Bet bazil is loving life right now. 

?

[Demons11 7,051]

14 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Bet bazil is loving life right now. 

I dare say he passed the medical last week as it would be difficult to sit one in Bali 

[Wells 11 5,422]

Beat me to it 11, He was tested A WEEK AGO....before he went to Bali. Circus continues. 

Edited October 10, 2018 by Wells 11

[daisycutter 29,737]

17 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Finally a journo reporting fact. Not half-baked opinion.

what a joke

he didn't have a medical in bali. this must have been known by freo last week

media suckered by freo again

[Jaded No More 68,973]

I want him gone. 

I want May. I don’t want another will he won’t he year. I don’t want a player who isn’t all in. I want to improve our list and he feels surplus to our needs. He isn’t committed to us. He needs to leave. 

We have supported him for years. Gave him everything we could. He clearly isn’t interested, not even now that we are on the verge of serious success. He’s gotta go. 

[Dockett 32 1,239]

9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Far more is ridiculous.   

Slightly more I’d agree but both are key position players who have far exceeded the expectations based on their age. 

If Hogan played somewhere else there is no way you would say he was worth pick 5 and 6

I don’t believe it’s ridiculous at all.

You have your opinion I have mine.

 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,966]

Scans might take a day or so to come back and a medical might include a blood test which may take a few days or more for the results. ?‍♀️ 

Edited October 10, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Lucifers Hero 40,360]

A more informative and reasoned commentary by Michael Gleeson. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-edging-closer-to-decision-on-hogan-20181010-p508x3.html

Key points (paaphrasing):

• Full insight into navicular injury will not be available till after trade period ends
• Freo Board has met to discuss Hogan
• Talks are ongoing and progressing between the clubs
• Melbourne has shifted from its initial position of demanding two top-10 picks
• Discussions on a possible move of contracted Suns co-captain and full-back Steven May to Melbourne would not happen until a possible Hogan move was confirmed
• The Demons want the Dockers' first pick, but negotiations will then centre on what else would be required to complete a deal and whether it requires another first-round pick this year or next year, or a second-round selection.

I don't think Mahoney has gone soft - just practical to get the deal done.  Two top 10 picks always unlikely and just his opening ambit.

My read is the deal will now happen.

Edited October 10, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

8 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

what a joke

he didn't have a medical in bali. this must have been known by freo last week

media suckered by freo again

Peter Bell is trolling media dupes harder than Sacha Baron Cohen at the moment.

Pretty pointless though. Hasn’t fazed the MFC none.

[Sydee 4,529]

3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

A more informative and reasoned commentary by Michael Gleeson. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-edging-closer-to-decision-on-hogan-20181010-p508x3.html

Key points (paaphrasing):

• Full insight into navicular injury will not be available till after trade period ends
• Freo Board has met to discuss Hogan
• Melbourne has shifted from its initial position of demanding two top-10 picks
• The Demons want the Dockers' first pick, but negotiations will then centre on what else would be required to complete a deal and whether it requires another first-round pick this year or next year, or a second-round selection.

I don't think Mahoney has gone soft - just practical to get the deal done.  Two top 10 picks always unlikely and just his opening ambit.

My read is the deal will now happen.

I would mark that down as a major fail if that's what we receive

[Demons11 7,051]

6 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Scans might take a day or so to come back and a medical might include a blood test which may take a few days or more for the results. ?‍♀️ 

AFL clubs would be able to turn tests results around in 24 hrs. 

[John Crow Batty 8,878]

A first round pick and steak knives will do if that is what it takes. We don’t need another disrupted season.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,966]

5 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

AFL clubs would be able to turn tests results around in 24 hrs. 

Possibly. Either way, I don’t see why it matters when the results are made public.

Edited October 10, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Sydee 4,529]

Just now, america de cali said:

A first round pick and steak knives will do if that is what it takes. We don’t need another disrupted season.

Very glad you are not negotiating on our behalf - that would be ridiculous and totally inconsistent with recent precedents

[Lucifers Hero 40,360]

7 minutes ago, Sydee said:

I would mark that down as a major fail if that's what we receive

I would be surprised and that is the worst case scenario. 

An option (I'm being a bit creative): 

• pick 5 2018
• a swap of 2019 first round picks.  Hopefully, in 2019 that converts to us receiving pick 5/6/7 and give up pick 17/18.  ie a significant 2019 first round upgrade for us.

To me that is a good compromise between Freo's 2019 1st round pick or a second round pick.

Edited October 10, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[Frustrated Demon 244]

I’m happy with a 1st rounder and a player

[DeeSpencer 26,080]

My read on this draft from some trusted types is there's somewhere between 7-12 really super players, where most drafts have maybe 3 top liners and another 4 or so highly rated. After that it's back to normal business (and a bit shallow in the later rounds).

So if the plan is to trade Hogan for May and a draft pick that Jason Taylor can use then I don't really care if it's Freo's pick next year, or this years pick 15 or pick 25. I certainly wouldn't cave but if there's pressure on to do a deal then I'd do the deal.

I'm more in favour of getting in some viable assets with a lot of late swaps - especially now that live draft trading can occur. So if the second part of the Hogan deal is a later pick but it comes with some 3rd round and future pick upgrades then I'd do that.

Hogan for May is what our team needs. Getting the extra value that we deserve can come in a lot of ways, the idea that a straight up top 10 pick is also needed is too ambitious.

 

[chook fowler 19,533]

I hope his medical included a colonoscopy - without sedation.

[Spud 288]

2 hours ago, Spud said:

Hi end Cheeseboard perfect for both hard and soft cheeses!

 

1 hour ago, AmDamDemon said:

I camembert the suspense much longer.

Actually no it's fine. I'm fine

If he stays, I hope he's emental-ly prepared and emotionally invested in the club.

If he goes, then may it be for a feta trade price than Freo think is appropriate.

On this wensleyday it would be gouda if we heard what Jesse intends to do, but if he isn't traded next year he'll be a restricted Brie agent. If he does stay I'm tipping some will get a blue vein with their stilton!

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,778]

1 hour ago, Wunders said:

Don't forget that Hogan is a restricted free agent next year (surely hes in top 25% of earners at club). So if freo and the media think we will get him for nothing next year they are wrong.

? And we were travelling so well there for about 30 pages!

I guess we were due...

Edited October 10, 2018 by Graeme Yeats' Mullet

[drysdale demon 4,837]

3 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

I hope his medical included a colonoscopy - without sedation.

Sounds like you need one