Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Nasher 33,616]

17 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I thought that once you're banned from here, you cannot post again even under a new name??

That’s the rule, but it’s not the first time we’ve let bygones be bygones, there are a handful of posters active in this thread in the same boat. This incarnation is wearing pretty thin though, especially when he had the hide to tell Andy to make sure he was moderating fairly, given that rule and our generous application of it.

[DeeZee 7,397]

Had the weirdest dream that Hogan was the Bass player in my band and he told me he was joining another band after we did one last gig together.

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,851]

12 hours ago, MadAsHell said:

HOW TOMORROW WILL PLAY OUT:

Brisbane trade Beams, Pick 32 & 55 to Collingwood for Pick 18 & Future 1st Rd Pick.

Brisbane trade Pick 5 & 18 to Melbourne.

Melbourne trade Hogan & Pick 36 to Fremantle.

Fremantle trade Neale & Pick 30 to Brisbane 

Melbourne trade Pick 5 & Future 3rd Rd Pick to Gold Coast for May & KK

This means Bellend can trade Pick 11 & 23 to GWS for Lobb & Pick 14.

West Coast trade Picks 20 & 22 to GWS for Picks 11 & 47

West Coast trade Pick 11 to Geelong for Kelly.

Bombers trade Pick 9 & Future 2nd Rd Pick to GWS for Shiel & Future 4th Rd Pick ($cully trade).

Am I missing anything/anyone???

 

Cancel this years five Nobles prizes. For the first time in history, all five are awarded to one individual. 

[binman 43,007]

36 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Had the weirdest dream that Hogan was the Bass player in my band and he told me he was joining another band after we did one last gig together.

Was it a surf band?

[daisycutter 29,616]

welcome to armageddon day, punters

[DeeZee 7,397]

1 minute ago, binman said:

Was it a surf band?

Even weirder it was a wedding reception band.

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,249]

34 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Had the weirdest dream that Hogan was the Bass player in my band and he told me he was joining another band after we did one last gig together.

That happened in a band I was in. And he (bass player, not Hogan) took the lead guitarist with him!

I'll never forgive him.

[beelzebub 23,378]

8 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

welcome to armageddon day, punters

you getting excited ?

armageddon excited !!!

[Lucifers Hero 39,841]

For those wondering how we are going to fill our list vacancies: if the Hogan trade goes down as mooted (May, Kolodjashnij and #23) we will have 7 vacancies and 7 draft picks between 23 and 91. 

Options to fill vacancies:

1. use the late picks to make rookies (Keilty and T Smith) senior players then replenish our rookie stocks in the rookie draft
2. have a senior list of < 40 players (38 is the minimum)
3. take delisted players, which don't require draft picks so some draft picks remain used. 

If 3. the unused picks can be traded to a team needing draft points for a higher pick.  Pick trading can happen on Thur and Friday.  Then again during the draft as we have Live Pick Trading this year.

How many picks we take to the draft is yet to be seen but we have plenty of options to fill our list.

Edited October 16, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[beelzebub 23,378]

can we do 17 before the big announcement....

yes we can...

I'm sure we can all find something to repeat

 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,241]

18 hours ago, daisycutter said:

definitely rangey. that gandhi quote did it

We should have a poll on that dc.

[rpfc 28,471]

2 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

For those wondering how we are going to fill our list vacancies: if the Hogan trade goes down as mooted (May, Kolodjashnij and #23) we will have 7 vacancies and 7 draft picks between 23 and 91. 

Options to fill vacancies:

1. use the late picks to make rookies (Keilty and T Smith) senior players then replenish our rookie stocks in the rookie draft
2. have a senior list of < 40 players (38 is the minimum)
3. take delisted players, which don't require draft picks so some draft picks remain used. 

If 3. the unused picks can be traded to a team needing draft points for a pick higher up the draft.  Pick trading can happen on Thur and Friday.  Then again during the draft as we have Live Pick Trading this year.

How many we take to the draft is yet to be seen but we have plenty of options to fill our list.

I think we are a big chance to go into 2019 with 38 or 39 on the senior list. There is just no point in bringing in 2 players in the ND when you could probably get them with more flexibility in the Rookie Draft. 

[beelzebub 23,378]

11 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Even weirder it was a wedding reception band.

was he singing.....

when my baby smiles at me I go to Freo ??

[ManDee 7,153]

10 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

I’d accept May, KK and 23 as a break even. What we do with 23 is up to the FD and I would back them to use it wisely. 

Anything short of this would be a fail as far as I am concerned. 

 

OK just for a moment stop to consider why we are trading, what is our goal?

If we think that replacing Hogan for May is a bad deal because Hogan is a better player we are missing the big picture. If we have 3 Hogans & no Mays and our aim is not to have the most talented side but to win premierships we do the deal.

So a win at the trade table means our side becomes better & we have a better chance to win a flag. If we can make our side better we do the deal, forget 23 & 30 vs 15 or 5 vs 8 & 11 or Hogan vs May KK 23. If Hogan out enables us to be better we win.

[Jibroni 5,004]

11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

The bombers totally bent us over in the Melksham/Hibberd trades didn't they? And we got robbed trading up the draft to nab Oliver and Weideman. Plus Adelaide are riding high with those draft picks they acquired for an AA defender with born leadership qualities.

Have some faith for Christ's sake this administration has earnt it

After 383 pages thats the most sensible post i have read. Well said.

[beelzebub 23,378]

 

[Lucifers Hero 39,841]

This is the result when nothing of note happens in the trade period. 

Reporters just make stuff up!  https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-whispers-young-fremantle-players-could-be-circuitbreakers-for-jesse-hogan-deal/news-story/6d5dbe87393d2fb06af54e56b7e89861

The excommunicated demon fan, Tom Morris hypothesises that a young gun Freo player might be part of the Hogan deal.  It is an embarrassing article as it is so obvious he made it up (par for the course I guess).

[John Crow Batty 8,869]

 

Edited October 16, 2018 by america de cali

[SFebes 4,884]

14 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

This is the result when nothing of note happens in the trade period. 

Reporters just make stuff up!  https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-whispers-young-fremantle-players-could-be-circuitbreakers-for-jesse-hogan-deal/news-story/6d5dbe87393d2fb06af54e56b7e89861

The excommunicated demon fan, Tom Morris hypothesises that a young gun Freo player might be part of the Hogan deal.  It is an embarrassing article as it is so obvious he made it up (par for the course I guess).

I'm not sure who annoys me more now, Tom Morris or Sam Manure.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

This day will be so slow... until the final two hours when, miraculously, all the deals go through as the Foxtel telecast begins!

[binman 43,007]

1 minute ago, SFebes said:

I'm not sure who annoys me more now, Tom Morris or Sam Manure.

Sam manure for me. By a mile. The etd of the footy media.

[SFebes 4,884]

4 minutes ago, binman said:

Sam manure for me. By a mile. The etd of the footy media.

Fair call mate, trouble is you can't avoid him, he pops up bloody everywhere!

[beelzebub 23,378]

31 minutes ago, ManDee said:

OK just for a moment stop to consider why we are trading, what is our goal?

If we think that replacing Hogan for May is a bad deal because Hogan is a better player we are missing the big picture. If we have 3 Hogans & no Mays and our aim is not to have the most talented side but to win premierships we do the deal.

So a win at the trade table means our side becomes better & we have a better chance to win a flag. If we can make our side better we do the deal, forget 23 & 30 vs 15 or 5 vs 8 & 11 or Hogan vs May KK 23. If Hogan out enables us to be better we win.

should be banned...this is no place for reality....shame on you.....

[deanox 9,928]

41 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

For those wondering how we are going to fill our list vacancies: if the Hogan trade goes down as mooted (May, Kolodjashnij and #23) we will have 7 vacancies and 7 draft picks between 23 and 91. 

Options to fill vacancies:

1. use the late picks to make rookies (Keilty and T Smith) senior players then replenish our rookie stocks in the rookie draft
2. have a senior list of < 40 players (38 is the minimum)
3. take delisted players, which don't require draft picks so some draft picks remain used. 

If 3. the unused picks can be traded to a team needing draft points for a higher pick.  Pick trading can happen on Thur and Friday.  Then again during the draft as we have Live Pick Trading this year.

How many picks we take to the draft is yet to be seen but we have plenty of options to fill our list.

The other mechanism is trading future (2019) drafts picks for earlier picks this year. 

I understand GC have more picks than they can use this year and mostly high picks,  but they need points for next year's academy players. 

So 2019 1st rounder might get us overs in this year's draft when we have spots to fill. 

[Skuit 10,031]

Where's Gary Pert at the moment? I feel like he should be having a quiet friendly word in the ear of Bell about what's what.