Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Ethan Tremblay 30,962]

2 minutes ago, special robert said:

I have a secret sauce.

Freo get pick 5 from BNE for Neale and Hogan goes to KFC for pick 6, 17 and 68, (family bucket) which he swaps for picks 22, 223 and 2 (spicy wings, nuggets and a coke) Bell refuses the wings but cleverly swaps the nuggets for a packet of darts which Hogan accepts and becomes a Marquis player. (nice Moustache and boots.)

Fremantle have already traded away pick 6. 

Edit: I should have read the rest after pick 6..

Edited October 14, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[adonski 12,420]

3 minutes ago, special robert said:

I have a secret sauce.

Freo get pick 5 from BNE for Neale and Hogan goes to KFC for pick 6, 17 and 68, (family bucket) which he swaps for picks 22, 223 and 2 (spicy wings, nuggets and a coke) Bell refuses the wings but cleverly swaps the nuggets for a packet of darts which Hogan accepts and becomes a Marquis player. (nice Moustache and boots.)

KFC serve Pepsi, not Coke, however I have heard similar things

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

15 minutes ago, ManDee said:

You also said Freo have gone cold on him and are not interested if I remember correctly. So is he staying or going?

Staying.

Either Freo are truly cold on him or they will wait 12 months to get him on the cheap. 

If I were Freo the temptation to take a King brother now with the Neale pick 5, then bring Jesse home next year would be a very enticing one. 

Would set up their forward line for 10 years.

Edited October 14, 2018 by EnterTheDragon

[faultydet 7,619]

4 minutes ago, special robert said:

I have a secret sauce.

Freo get pick 5 from BNE for Neale and Hogan goes to KFC for pick 6, 17 and 68, (family bucket) which he swaps for picks 22, 223 and 2 (spicy wings, nuggets and a coke) Bell refuses the wings but cleverly swaps the nuggets for a packet of darts which Hogan accepts and becomes a Marquis player. (nice Moustache and boots.)

You make me feel good about myself.

[Mickey 4,731]

1 minute ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Staying.

Either Freo are truly cold on him or they will wait 12 months to get him on the cheap. 

If I were Freo the temptation to take a King brother now with with the Neale pick 5, then bring Jesse home next year would be a very enticing one. 

Would set up their forward line for 10 years.

Maybe 4-5 years, until the King brother asks to come home to Melbourne. Isn't that why GC are steering clear of them?

[ManDee 7,221]

1 minute ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Staying.

Either Freo are truly cold on him or they will wait 12 months to get him on the cheap. 

If I were Freo the temptation to take a King brother now with with the Neale pick 5, then bring Jesse home next year would be a very enticing one. 

Would set up their forward line for 10 years.

But if they want him next year then they are still interested.

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

29 minutes ago, ManDee said:

ETD I have seen much of what you have seen, where we differ is the conclusions we come to. Players tour other clubs facilities, sometimes they end up there sometimes they don't. Bruce Lee to Peter Bell that would be a bitter pill everyday you open Demonland. I'm looking forward to it.

 

As bitter a pill as this?

I think not!

 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

2 minutes ago, ManDee said:

But if they want him next year then they are still interested.

We won’t know either way for 12 months. But you can’t use that as an excuse not to give Chicken Nixon a run as your avatar.

[ManDee 7,221]

3 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

As bitter a pill as this?

I think not!

 

You've got me there. But we both know Freo are still interested.

[special robert 438]

People here are just grasping at straws.

This has happened to me because I am quite short and the counters at KFC ...quite high.

[Moonshadow 17,677]

16 minutes ago, special robert said:

I have a secret sauce.

Freo get pick 5 from BNE for Neale and Hogan goes to KFC for pick 6, 17 and 68, (family bucket) which he swaps for picks 22, 223 and 2 (spicy wings, nuggets and a coke) Bell refuses the wings but cleverly swaps the nuggets for a packet of darts which Hogan accepts and becomes a Marquis player. (nice Moustache and boots.)

Now really, Special... how many times have I told you not to touch the green acid that Biffen supplies?

[ManDee 7,221]

7 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

We won’t know either way for 12 months. But you can’t use that as an excuse not to give Chicken Nixon a run as your avatar.

Tell you what ETD When I win I will expect your avatar to be the worst Bell image I can find but only for 1 month, I might be a grumpy ol bastard but I am not cruel. 

Edited October 14, 2018 by ManDee
Typo

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

10 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Staying.

Either Freo are truly cold on him or they will wait 12 months to get him on the cheap. 

If I were Freo the temptation to take a King brother now with the Neale pick 5, then bring Jesse home next year would be a very enticing one. 

Would set up their forward line for 10 years.

King brothers have significant go home factor interstate clubs are aware of and if drafted by an interstate club it will only be one confident of getting both of them to lessen that. Freo would be silly to draft an unproven king brother with go home factor with the same pick that could have locked up jesse hogan, a proven key forward and as you say set up their forward line for the next decade. 

Fremantle also won’t get him cheap next year, it will likely cost them a strong first round pick minimum to get a deal done, and they run the risk of Jesse deciding to stay or Another club like west coast getting involved with Kennedy another year older. 

The strategy you have proposed is full of risks for fremantle who could achieve a better outcome tomorrow if they’d pull their heads out of it and accept our very reasonable trade request 

[sue 9,131]

I must be on happy pills.  If he goes, he goes and the club is either happy with that (or delirious with joy as some here would have it).  If he stays I'm not worried about a year of speculation/lack of commitment/relations with the team.  I reckon MFC can handle all that.  And I don't give a damn about media speculation as long as it doesn't affect the team internally.   

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

9 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Tell you what ETD When I win I will expect your avatar to be the worst Bell image I can find but only for 1 month, I might be a grumpy ol bastard but I am not cruel. 

Me either ManDee.

I’ll reciprocate on my two first rounders demand and settle for 1 month. 

If only you and I were handling this Hogan affair. Sensible heads!

[daisycutter 29,722]

2 minutes ago, sue said:

I must be on happy pills.  If he goes, he goes and the club is either happy with that (or delirious with joy as some here would have it).  If he stays I'm not worried about a year of speculation/lack of commitment/relations with the team.  I reckon MFC can handle all that.  And I don't give a damn about media speculation as long as it doesn't affect the team internally.   

very sensible, sue

but won't get us to 500 pages

[special robert 438]

I am on happy pills and have been for a number of years..they're quite good and after the last 50 years as a Melbourne supporter, my doctor regards as a requisite. Where was I.....pick 16 goes to hell where all the inmates are Demons and pick 16 lives happily ever after.

I reckon with 3 days left...we can make the 500!

[sue 9,131]

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

very sensible, sue

but won't get us to 500 pages

A thousand apologies. And one more for not making a seperate post for each of the 1000 apologies.

[layzie 33,990]

Wow what a day. 

[beelzebub 23,382]

Guys guys guys....no more bloody Nixon images....my eyes are burning

[Demonsone 2,043]

2 hours ago, Crompton's the man said:

If Jesse doesn’t go this trade period and I hope he doesn’t, every media event next year will make his life a never ending circus with questions and speculation.

Maybe even if he has said to the FD that he wants out next year, he could be persuaded to sign a (three year) contract extension to keep the dogs away in 2019 with the FD agreeing that they will enter negotiations this time next year.

This would give him a calm footy environment for the year and place the club in a (more) sound negotiating position instead of the frantic mess we are currently witnessing.

Supposition but could be a reasonable interim outcome 

Contracts mean nothing .... AFL is a mess with this one .. you sign u stay ffs ..  commitment both ends not that hard., only extreme circumstances should be allowed.. I accept Hogan wanting for fsmily reasons since his dad died but you hear Scully who is contracted until 2021 it’s a disgrace 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

26 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

The strategy you have proposed is full of risks for fremantle

Not if Freo have a handshake agreement with Jesse and his manager to bring him over next year if Melbourne don’t capitulate at the trade table now.

Whatever your own thoughts are on the King Bros, if you can hold on to the rolled gold of pick 5 in a superdraft AND get your key forward 12 months later ... only a mug list manager would not look at that as an attractive option. 

I don’t like how Fremantle are manoeuvring any more than the next Demon fan, but try looking at the situation from Peter Bell’s size 6 brogues. If he can find a way to have his cake and eat it too he’s going to explore it.

I know I sure as hell would if I were them.

[Demons11 7,050]

4 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The tribe has spoken:  Hogan (72%) before Neale (28%).

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-14/your-say-dockers-should-keep-chasing-hogan

Its crazy to think they will have both. 

Jesse will impact their club in the same way Buddy has Sydney both on the field and off the field with game attendance, memberships, sponsors etc.

If they set it up properly Jessie is their marquis player (with Fyfe) for a long time to come. 

I am Jesse fan but this is hogwash. 

Franklin is a superstar and in the top 5 best players in the league for 10 years.  Franklin has absolute star power and Jesse does not have this presence. 

[daisycutter 29,722]

12 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Guys guys guys....no more bloody Nixon images....my eyes are burning

my skin is crawling

[dieter 3,325]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

And I don't think there would be any ill feelings from the club or the boys. 

The Dees and us just want fair compensation so we can improve our list. 

I'm positive that Freo still want him, warts and all. They just want their cake and to eat it too. 

The Weller deal last year has them thinking that you can always get away with murder at the trade table. 

They're using the current government with it's   conga line of temporary  'leaders' as an example.