On 04/10/2018 at 09:00, Ron Burgundy said:

You can’t seriously compare Jesse Hogan to Tom Scully ...

 

Wasn’t comparing the player, just the scenario. Running into the Dockers club rooms, away from the media, just reminded me of Scully at the airport. I find it amusing how these players try to play the straight bat when everyone knows the outcome. Just be honest for Christ’s sake

 

  On 04/10/2018 at 10:32, DTJ said:

There's having faith in the list management team and there's expecting a fair price, not mutually exclusive.

Not really that far removed ?

  On 04/10/2018 at 10:46, —coach— said:

Toumpas was far better than Wines any day of the week.

Just misunderstood

was just what we need, a classy outside finishing mid, not another grunt inside mid like viney

  On 04/10/2018 at 10:53, bobby1554 said:

Wasn’t comparing the player, just the scenario. Running into the Dockers club rooms, away from the media, just reminded me of Scully at the airport. I find it amusing how these players try to play the straight bat when everyone knows the outcome. Just be honest for Christ’s sake

 

Honest and say what? Does Hogan have a contract in front of him from Freo to sign? Does Freo have a deal with Melbourne in place? If the answer to both of those question isn't yes then there's little for Hogan to be honest about. No comment is the best approach for now.

  On 04/10/2018 at 10:14, ProDee said:

So your educated guess is that the outcome we will want is a pick we can use on May and perhaps a player such as another A. Brayshaw ?  Or Cerra ?

It's not possible for us to know PD. 

I think that Langdon might be in the picture. I'm not convinced this is all Hogan driven so we might be more accommodating than people think. 

But I don't think we'll trade him unless we get our outcome. 

I mean really we're just having a bit of fun here. We've got no idea. What I love is we are aggressively trying to improve our list. 

  On 04/10/2018 at 08:14, Redleg said:

They may laugh and he still may go. He also might not. It is obviously something that will be raised. I am sure a few scenarios will be raised before the deal is done.

What does literally live in WA mean BTW?

As opposed to metaphorically 

Jesse's underover work needs work!

Takes Dees backpack to Perth.

Doesn't change from airport clothes for visit to Freo Facilities.

My read is that he won't say yes to Freo deal Neale to Brisbane for Pick 4. Management would be aware Dees will be seeking 2 first rounders.

 

Club has pushed him out the door, ridiculous 30 metre wind up kicks for goals struggling to make the distance, poor body language, injury prone, leadership issues, like the share market, sell at a high, it’s over, we want you to stay bro but you know, do what’s best for you, like leave.

How would gaff and Brayshaw go first training session of pre season?

  On 04/10/2018 at 11:25, binman said:

How would gaff and Brayshaw go first training session of pre season?

The fact they will be in different suburbs should make it easier 

  On 04/10/2018 at 11:22, bluey said:

Club has pushed him out the door, ridiculous 30 metre wind up kicks for goals struggling to make the distance, poor body language, injury prone, leadership issues, like the share market, sell at a high, it’s over, we want you to stay bro but you know, do what’s best for you, like leave.

Many won’t like reading that, Blue. But an element of truth in what you’re saying. Don’t reckon we’re fighting that hard to keep him to be honest. 

Club has seen an opportunity to sell stock at inflated value. And is duly taking it. Good on us.

  On 04/10/2018 at 11:22, bluey said:

Club has pushed him out the door, ridiculous 30 metre wind up kicks for goals struggling to make the distance, poor body language, injury prone, leadership issues, like the share market, sell at a high, it’s over, we want you to stay bro but you know, do what’s best for you, like leave.

 

  On 04/10/2018 at 10:24, ProDee said:

Why you and others don't have faith in Mahoney, Taylor, Viney, and co. is beyond me. 

No Mahoney No Oliver

 

  On 04/10/2018 at 11:22, bluey said:

Club has pushed him out the door, ridiculous 30 metre wind up kicks for goals struggling to make the distance, poor body language, injury prone, leadership issues, like the share market, sell at a high, it’s over, we want you to stay bro but you know, do what’s best for you, like leave.

 

  On 04/10/2018 at 11:30, EnterTheDragon said:

Many won’t like reading that, Blue. But an element of truth in what you’re saying. Don’t reckon we’re fighting that hard to keep him to be honest. 

Club has seen an opportunity to sell stock at inflated value. And is duly taking it. Good on us.

Probably two of the most accurate posts on this thread so far

  On 04/10/2018 at 11:34, Fifty-5 said:

No Mahoney No Oliver

 

No Oliver no purpose in life

Well, I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, but looks like Hogan is out the door. Shame because he’s such a talent and it would have been nice to keep the group that saw the beginning of our rise together.

But, it is what it is, and now it’s time to look at how we can maximise this to our advantage. 

Personally, I see Freo giving us their picks 4 and 5 as the most appropriate compensation, but they may give us 5 and 10.

If we are to receive picks 4 and 5, trade pick 5 to GC for May + KK and then use pick 4 in the draft to secure Izak Rankine. I saw someone post earlier that Port are right into him, but if the Hogan deal is done, we should be too. The kid looks a gun - speedy, agile, and a regular feature in the highlight reel.

check out these highlights from his 2017 and 2018 seasons. I saw on his Instagram he likes to sing as well - he can do duets with Robbo.

 

  On 04/10/2018 at 11:22, bluey said:

Club has pushed him out the door, ridiculous 30 metre wind up kicks for goals struggling to make the distance, poor body language, injury prone, leadership issues, like the share market, sell at a high, it’s over, we want you to stay bro but you know, do what’s best for you, like leave.

No not pushed out the door, more the case that he would not commit to an extension beyond 2019 so we are moving early as you say while the price is right. Not because he struggles for distance on kicks for heavens sake. You pass on a potential 60 goal a year key position forward at your own peril and certainly not for a gorilla marking backman a la Sam May by choice. I think the FD believe he is going if not this year, then next year.

Edited October 4, 20186 yr by Earl Hood

  On 04/10/2018 at 12:03, qwerty7 said:

Well, I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, but looks like Hogan is out the door. Shame because he’s such a talent and it would have been nice to keep the group that saw the beginning of our rise together.

But, it is what it is, and now it’s time to look at how we can maximise this to our advantage. 

Personally, I see Freo giving us their picks 4 and 5 as the most appropriate compensation, but they may give us 5 and 10.

If we are to receive picks 4 and 5, trade pick 5 to GC for May + KK and then use pick 4 in the draft to secure Izak Rankine. I saw someone post earlier that Port are right into him, but if the Hogan deal is done, we should be too. The kid looks a gun - speedy, agile, and a regular feature in the highlight reel.

check out these highlights from his 2017 and 2018 seasons. I saw on his Instagram he likes to sing as well - he can do duets with Robbo.

 

Suns want him as well

  On 04/10/2018 at 12:08, MurDoc516 said:

Suns want him as well

Bailey Smith is the one. 

  On 04/10/2018 at 12:03, qwerty7 said:

Well, I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, but looks like Hogan is out the door. Shame because he’s such a talent and it would have been nice to keep the group that saw the beginning of our rise together.

But, it is what it is, and now it’s time to look at how we can maximise this to our advantage. 

Personally, I see Freo giving us their picks 4 and 5 as the most appropriate compensation, but they may give us 5 and 10.

If we are to receive picks 4 and 5, trade pick 5 to GC for May + KK and then use pick 4 in the draft to secure Izak Rankine. I saw someone post earlier that Port are right into him, but if the Hogan deal is done, we should be too. The kid looks a gun - speedy, agile, and a regular feature in the highlight reel.

check out these highlights from his 2017 and 2018 seasons. I saw on his Instagram he likes to sing as well - he can do duets with Robbo.

 

That kid has serious talent. Wow!

  On 04/10/2018 at 12:08, MurDoc516 said:

Suns want him as well

I personally think the Suns should draft the king brothers and that way they have a reason to keep talent at their club. Both look like guns too.

Geez Rankine looks unbelievable.

im worried that we will cave and only get 1 pick. id be filthy though!

  On 04/10/2018 at 12:20, qwerty7 said:

I personally think the Suns should draft the king brothers and that way they have a reason to keep talent at their club. Both look like guns too.

the king bros will go much lower in the draft i think.. every club from interstate will be put off and some clubs like saints and dees will be put off by the idea of years of development needed for them.. i reckon they may fall to 10-15. rankine could be a surprise first pick. also bailey smith. the other vic kid touted as first is a bit vanilla for mine.. we could even get the vanilla kid at 5 and it would be a good addition, but not ZOMG amazing.

  On 04/10/2018 at 12:24, Dr.D said:

im worried that we will cave and only get 1 pick. id be filthy though!

Reckon I'd burn Dees HQ down if that happened (just joking FBI man reading this).