2 minutes ago, old dee said:

Or is it that he has not been caught out yet?

Yes I know I am a cynic.

Hard not to be Old Dee if you have been a Dee supporter for as long as both of us have been.

On 8/23/2018 at 6:09 PM, beelzebub said:

This is a question of curiosity. Why are so many prepared to put the player...before the club ??

Thats not to disrespect or dismiss the worth of anyone...but clubs win games/win premierships..  So says the great North Smith..and he knew a thing or two.  Maybe we listen to his words a bit more and the curse might lift ??

Im not the only one here suggesting a balanced reappraisal of his worth/position  to Melb is warranted.

These are professional footballers who whilst playing for a jumper are actually incredibly well remunerated.

He was brought in as the classic messiah /silver bullet type draft.  Getting him will fix everything.  He's but one player. At times very good, at others woeful in attitude. There may well be reasons for that but just like fitness..you cross that line  you better be focused....or go sort life out. Thats not said in nastiness...just maybe what some need to do..Other players have.

He struggles against better sides.. Arguably isnt helped by some coaching/selection  but what is..is. If he get nullified in games where his real footy ability would be real handy..what value that ??

Im not opposed to playing him down back @binman will recall we discussed this exact notion in other thread  only to be howled down by those ...you know...know it alls!!

I dont think he's ideal as a mid either...smart yes...slow to react at times.. that burns play. Hes a very talented footballer...i just dont know what his position is now at Melbourne.  Too many better coaches have figured him out.  Ours needs to too  and quickly .

Cant agree more. 

Channel Michael Corleone...

"its not personal its just business"

Take your emotional attachment out of it and try to be dispassionate and you end up saying... 

"if the price is right"

29 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

Well Dr they should revoke your accreditation, i wouldn't even contemplate it then. Cerra? what has he done? and a first rounder, your kidding right.

Were talking about a Key position fwd here. Kicked 47 goals in 20 games and playing sore after the break

We gave up 2 1st round picks for Lever, Hogan is in his early 20's why wouldn't we ask for that.

He's suggesting what you're advocating.

Cerra was pick 5 and will be a gun plus a first rounder is the equivalent of two first rounders.  Actually, in my view it's better, because Cerra has already shown what he'll be.

That said, I want Hogan to stay and suspect he will.

3 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Hard not to be Old Dee if you have been a Dee supporter for as long as both of us have been.

A long sales life dealing with a large number of companies both large and small has shown me that less than 20% are run by honest straight shooters. 

The rest are less than honest in their dealings, the bigger they get the more dishonest they get. 

Sadly that is my experience.

1 hour ago, binman said:

Hello DrD. I can only assume you have not seen this or the other posts directing you to it. Other wise your avatar would be changed already. So once again here is the your new avatar - i look forward to seeing it next to your name:

So paging Dr D here is your new avatar (note; please ensure if needing to crop the picture below you get Mark's whole face):

Thanks!!! i found you! ok i'll change my avatar. so whats the relevance of neeld?

26 minutes ago, ProDee said:

He's suggesting what you're advocating.

Cerra was pick 5 and will be a gun plus a first rounder is the equivalent of two first rounders.  Actually, in my view it's better, because Cerra has already shown what he'll be.

That said, I want Hogan to stay and suspect he will.

exactly. cerra had a fantastic debut season and will be a gun. 

Freo trade half their midfield to get Hogan then have nobody to kick the ball to him meaning he would need to play midfield.....right. I think Freo need to get over their obsession with OUR player and worry about building a half reasonable football team.

According to Jon Ralph who spoke to Jesse’s Manager, he is going nowhere. Loves the club and players, just got his licence and happier than he has ever been in Melbourne.

Think we can put speculation to bed .

18 minutes ago, Redleg said:

According to Jon Ralph who spoke to Jesse’s Manager, he is going nowhere. Loves the club and players, just got his licence and happier than he has ever been in Melbourne.

Think we can put speculation to bed .

Believe me, nothing would make me happier if the hulk came out and signed a long term deal and put all this BS to bed. It would have to be a unprecedented, holy grail type offer to even consider trading.

Heard his comments as well and agree this thread should be closed as mentioned previously.

33 minutes ago, Redleg said:

According to Jon Ralph who spoke to Jesse’s Manager, he is going nowhere. Loves the club and players, just got his licence and happier than he has ever been in Melbourne.

Think we can put speculation to bed .

as per

 

 

Not going to happen hwever he may swap end of the ground next year.

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

According to Jon Ralph who spoke to Jesse’s Manager, he is going nowhere. Loves the club and players, just got his licence and happier than he has ever been in Melbourne.

Think we can put speculation to bed .

No more skateboarding to the ground on game day?

 

Hogan wants Demon flag glory https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/sydney/jesse-hogans-management-says-star-forward-wants-to-stay-in-melbourne/news-story/bee65a6b5cedf182b88800f22938a1d8

6 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

We can walk and chew gum at the same time Jaded 

We are walking but that ain't gum we're chewing...

30 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

 

Hogan wants Demon flag glory https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/sydney/jesse-hogans-management-says-star-forward-wants-to-stay-in-melbourne/news-story/bee65a6b5cedf182b88800f22938a1d8

Paywall but I think I get the jist of it.

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

Paywall but I think I get the jist of it.

Just says he is happy in Melbourne and has no interest in going to Freo who are rebuilding.   

I still think he needs to sign an extension in the off season.  Surely he nor us needs another contract circus next year.

Edited August 29, 20186 yr by Demons11

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

Just says he is happy in Melbourne and has no interest in going to Freo who are rebuilding.   

Yep, very encouraging.

80% of the people on this thread are full of bull sh*t. Also Dr D, don’t give up your day job. 

10 hours ago, Jaded said:

I understand that Melbourne supporters are disorientated by finals, but guys, we are actually playing finals. Can we stop talking about hypothetical and frankly idiotic trades, and actually enjoy FINALS?! 

You have plenty of time to talk trades after finals.

FINALS!!!!!

Actually it may help us as a distraction... (the supporters).

And help the players, as WE do not leave them under too much focus... so lets keep on talking trade atmo, until after the Elim' final is over with.

 

After that week we can shift the eyes up a little.

Rest assured, the players will be focused on this coming match.  And probably benefit from us not scrutinising them too closely.

I’m sure this has been mentioned...

I went to check those amazing Clarry stats were accurate (they were) and found this. I thought it incredibly surprising:

8 hours ago, sisso said:

I think Freo need to get over their obsession with OUR player and worry about building a half reasonable football team.

Oh man. How has no-one said this...

Remember years ago when we were desperate for Judd to choose us over Carlton? Feels exactly the same.

Honestly, I love the rumours about Jesse leaving. Just keep the WA fans praying while we feast on what he produces for the next ten years.

8 hours ago, Wolfturdo said:

80% of the people on this thread are full of bull sh*t. Also Dr D, don’t give up your day job. 

You probably think burning books you don't like is a good idea too!

A trade of Hogan ,though possibly unlikely , is however possible. The seeds have been around since he began his AFL career.

There are many aspects to this. One I find bemusing is the dismissal , abjectly, of an offer that has yet to be tabled. Yes talks do go on out in the 'non-official' world. Often theyre to gauge the market. But like a real estate auction is often doesn't get real ( or even start ) til it's almost over .

Of course no one is going to say anything other than a straight-bat reply.

Nothing may eventuate but the merits and such are still valid questions. 

May the righteous bang their drums ( gives them something to play with )

 

Edited August 29, 20186 yr by beelzebub

13 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

A trade of Hogan ,though possibly unlikely , is however possible. The seeds have been around since he began his AFL career.

 

The seeds are there because people decide they are there.  Clearly the bloke loves being at the club and loves living in Melbourne.  The seeds are planted by those who need something to write about.  Outside of signing another deal, what else does he need to do?

This 'anything is possible' stuff to justify you continuing to waffle on about it is rubbish.  If anything is possible, then why not start a thread on every player leaving because, you know, anything is possible.  It's tripe.