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Sam Murray under ASADA Investigation

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For all the fair criticism WCE and ESS get, time to start putting the heat on COLL. Definitely no angels.

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    3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    no...not performance enhancing... like the Saad energy drink ... different rules

    From The Age:

    "The substance in question is understood to be an illicit drug, which is classified as performance enhancing on match day only. Had he recorded a positive test during the week, he would merely have a strike recorded against him under the AFL's illicit drugs code."

    If it's in his system on match day it's considered a PED. To my mind, when he took it is a poor excuse. Was he tested on match day? If so, it should be 2 years.

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    30 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Peter Gordon on ABC:

    Drug was banned on match day only... Defence may be that it was not taken within 24 hours of playing

    But if you’re still over the limit on match day that doesn’t matter does it? 

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    4 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

    But if you’re still over the limit on match day that doesn’t matter does it? 

    Is there even such a test to determine when its was taken? In terms of hours taken before a game?

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    3 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

    Is there even such a test to determine when its was taken? In terms of hours taken before a game?

    It doesn’t matter- if it’s there, it’s there.  That’s the only test that matters.

     

    Not really buying the ‘but it’s only banned on match day’ line (pardon the pun).  This drug is in fact banned 24/7, 365 and 1/4 days of the year.  Murray’s either an addict who cannot help himself and needs immediate intervention, or he is a complete and utter moron.

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    38 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    od, i think the too-hard-basket got replaced by a 40m3 skip years ago

    Sounds  accurate DC.

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    4 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

    It doesn’t matter- if it’s there, it’s there.  That’s the only test that matters.

     

    Not really buying the ‘but it’s only banned on match day’ line (pardon the pun).  This drug is in fact banned 24/7, 365 and 1/4 days of the year.  Murray’s either an addict who cannot help himself and needs immediate intervention, or he is a complete and utter moron.

    Probably both TPF39.

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    43 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

    It doesn’t matter- if it’s there, it’s there.  That’s the only test that matters.

     

    Not really buying the ‘but it’s only banned on match day’ line (pardon the pun).  This drug is in fact banned 24/7, 365 and 1/4 days of the year.  Murray’s either an addict who cannot help himself and needs immediate intervention, or he is a complete and utter moron.

    Thats how I've always viewed it TPF39, anything in the system that is tested on Game day, whether it be taken on a Thursday night but still detected on sat arvo is gone.

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    If it’s in your system on match day it doesn’t matter when you took it.... 

    Love a good forum defence lawyer.

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    9 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    The Pies should lose points for that match. 

    Was probably on it when they played us.

    #takethepointsofthem

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    No wonder Gary Pert decided to leave them and come over to the light......

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    Wow I thought he was some VFL player... didnt realize he drug tested after an AFL match.

    Did they win the game he played in?      If they won that game and Gillon McLachlan doesn't strip their 4 points by the end of the day,  he has to step down.

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    4 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

    Wow I thought he was some VFL player... didnt realize he drug tested after an AFL match.

    Did they win the game he played in?      If they won that game and Gillon McLachlan doesn't strip their 4 points by the end of the day,  he has to step down.

    Was this after the Port Adelaide match? This could have HUGE ramifications on the 8!

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    3 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

    Imagine if one of his teammates also had tested pos and WADA came down hard on Collingwood for 2 pos players! AFL kick them out of the finals like Essendrug was. Melbourne beat GWS on Sunday and finish top 4!

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    Justice is a surprising reward, at times. There is no alternative - if the AFL is appropriately sensitive to performance enhancement substances as we must all expect it to be. Number crunching and escalation aside....

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    8 minutes ago, Philthy said:

    Was this after the Port Adelaide match? This could have HUGE ramifications on the 8!

    it will be months before he is found guilty/cleared

    long after the finals

    afl can't act until due process is completed

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    4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    it will be months before he is found guilty/cleared

    long after the finals

    afl can't act until due process is completed

    How fortunate for them dc!

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    27 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

    Wow I thought he was some VFL player... didnt realize he drug tested after an AFL match.

    Did they win the game he played in?      If they won that game and Gillon McLachlan doesn't strip their 4 points by the end of the day,  he has to step down.

    Barrett on the AFL site says the match was ‘possibly’ the game against Richmond on July 28.

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    4 hours ago, monoccular said:

    Clearly the club needs total disqualification, meaning that MFC, should they win on Sunday, would finish fourth ??

    But seriously looking forward to McChinny spin on this.  

    Sam Murray tested positive after Collingwood v Richmond.

    For this game and all games that he played in after that Collingwood should be stripped of those points, that is 4 wins so they should be stripped of 16 points taking them back to 40 points dropping them to 12th.

    Seriously the AFL needs to put this action in place on the basis that this is ASADA testing, before we go down the Essendon path.

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    3 minutes ago, JAG001 said:

    Sam Murray tested positive after Collingwood v Richmond.

    For this game and all games that he played in after that Collingwood should be stripped of those points, that is 4 wins so they should be stripped of 16 points taking them back to 40 points dropping them to 12th.

    Seriously the AFL needs to put this action in place on the basis that this is ASADA testing, before we go down the Essendon path.

    an understandable opinion

    but see post #47 above

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    4 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Peter Gordon on ABC:

    Drug was banned on match day only... Defence may be that it was not taken within 24 hours of playing

    In his system on match day, Peter.  Nice try. 

    3 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

    It doesn’t matter- if it’s there, it’s there.  That’s the only test that matters.

     

    Not really buying the ‘but it’s only banned on match day’ line (pardon the pun).  This drug is in fact banned 24/7, 365 and 1/4 days of the year.  Murray’s either an addict who cannot help himself and needs immediate intervention, or he is a complete and utter moron.

    Or, or and?

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