Match Preview and Team Selection - Round 21

[Pates 9,537]

The changes are very interesting, I feel like Hunt will take up Smiths place in the line up and be given a bit of license to do what he did so well last year (though I also hope they’ve told him to lower the eyes). Vince’s place in the team might be creatively covered through rotations while Pederson could provide a marking option on the HFF. 

I also think that getting Pedders in is about giving Max less rucking duties to give him an easy week on the park. I can picture Max spending a little more time forward. 

Whenever Pederson is rucking our onballers are going to have to work extra hard to win it, though having Pederson in the ruck last year did prove to be beneficial at times where he’d be more mobile than the traditional ruckmen. 

Of course these are just my thoughts, I could be completely wrong (probably will be). 

Very interesting week coming up. 

Edited August 10, 2018 by Pates

[Drunkn167 5,093]

Welp looks like I was completely wrong on Hunt, hope he tears it up.

[DV8 2,271]

9 hours ago, binman said:

I don't think so. The key will be how well we stop and/or pressure the ball coming him to him.

If their mids and medium forwards are kicking it in to him under minimal pressure he will kill whoever is on him and get a bag.

Tge other key will be drying up other scoring options. As i noted previously they will need to score close to 100 points to beat us and will happily give buddy 5-6 goals if he is the only scoring option.

One thing i really like about frost on buddy is that im sure goody will instruct him to run off buddy, which will exspose his current lack of fitness and pace.

If buddy is not scoring goals he is almost a liability, particularly on the wide spaces of the g, given how restricted he is (and how damaging his running is when fit).

Smart move to look to exspose/exploit this lack of pace and abilty to apply forward chasing pressure. The suggestion they might look to bring hunt in fots with this as his pace would further exploit buddys imabilty to chase or get up rhe ground.

 

 

I'm not worried about Budd getting the footy, as He WILL get it...   Its where he gets it that's my concern.  And that he isn't able to run freely with the footy. This is why I want Frost on his hammer.

I want Budd to have to range high and outside Fitty, to win the ball.  He can have the ball in his area, as long as we can control him with it.

 

I want us to jam up the Swans forwardline deep, forcing Budd way up high, with Frost who can run him down, if he gets past. 

We need to work to keep him on his right side as much as possible and maintain him under pressure.

 

We have to be able to keep the space tight in our D50, so they can't get it in behind Buddy.

 

 I think Frost playing close, with Hunt sweeping behind him just in-case he turns Frost around,,,  and running past Frost when frost has the ball.

 

I think this will be a dour game.

Edited August 10, 2018 by DV8

[BAMF 3,809]

8 hours ago, binman said:

He is no lock down defender. If he comes in his job will be to run and carry and use his pace to exploit their lack of pace. 

Its interesting, in 2016 he was a huge weapon for us and his run was a big part of our strategy but seemed to get worked out early this year. His poor kicking didn't help. But obviously being out of the side has meant other players like Salem have assumed greater importance and it has only been hibberd and more recently Frost who have really run and carried the ball from defence.  If he comes back in he is unlikely to be such a critical cog for us and therefore may not get the same focus from opposition coaches and so might get a bit of freedom and space.

I dont know if he 'got worked out'.

Hunts role and strength has been to run, bounce, break lines maybe bounce again then pump the ball quickly into the forward 50. 

That play simply hasn't been in Goodwins game plan this year. We aim to move the ball quickly by playing on running your full measure if required and  disposing of the ball to an open player. If you take a bounce you have held onto it too long. I wouldn't be surprised if the boys are instructed not to bounce the ball unless 100% needed. The only times I can think of it happening is seeing Hibberd bouncing at full tilt to give himself a modicum more space before releasing from the back line or Melksham bouncing while going forward as their are no options ahead of him.

Hunt's strengths don't fit into our game plan at the moment. I think he really struggled not playing his natural game at the start of the year.

Edited August 10, 2018 by BAMF

[picket fence 15,555]

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If you're JFK (and Vanders) you wouldn't want to play a poor game with Melksham and Hibberd due back next week.

Ok lets put a line through Viney, I don't care what the coaching staff HOPE 

He wont play again this year.

That leaves JFK and Spargo as most vulnerable

Vanders gives some serious X Factor to our team and will only get better

I would not have Hunt out of this side again PACE and Grunt!

He stays

SO in reality it will be 

Melksham and Hibberd for Spargo and JFK!

The rest stay including PEDO versatility and Vanders for X Factor

Looks a bloody good side with this scenario

Pity about Bernie because I rate him as a Bloke and player but unfortunately father time has caught up and you cannot play Lewis and Bernie in the same side!

 

[Mad_Melbourne 872]

I really think we’ve made a large selection error, unless Gawn is going to be a late change. 

They have one actual key forward, who is athletic and we are going in with a larger and slower side even with the swap of Hunt for Vince. We do not need 3 proper key position sized players. 

 

Watch Franklin play up the ground and Sydney score goals out the back. I think 3 key tall backs is a grave mistake against most forward lines, especially someone who covers the ground so poorly as Pederson. 

 

Bloody heck, I hope I’m wrong but I think it would be a change that Sydney would appreciate 

[Demon17 4,638]

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Ok lets put a line through Viney, I don't care what the coaching staff HOPE 

He wont play again this year.

That leaves JFK and Spargo as most vulnerable

Vanders gives some serious X Factor to our team and will only get better

I would not have Hunt out of this side again PACE and Grunt!

He stays

SO in reality it will be 

Melksham and Hibberd for Spargo and JFK!

The rest stay including PEDO versatility and Vanders for X Factor

Looks a bloody good side with this scenario

Pity about Bernie because I rate him as a Bloke and player but unfortunately father time has caught up and you cannot play Lewis and Bernie in the same side!

 

Bringing in hunt - A poor kick inable to consistently hit a target. 

Drop spargo who is the opposite.? 

I dont agree. 

[Chook 14,614]

24 minutes ago, Mad_Melbourne said:

I really think we’ve made a large selection error, unless Gawn is going to be a late change. 

They have one actual key forward, who is athletic and we are going in with a larger and slower side even with the swap of Hunt for Vince. We do not need 3 proper key position sized players. 

 

Watch Franklin play up the ground and Sydney score goals out the back. I think 3 key tall backs is a grave mistake against most forward lines, especially someone who covers the ground so poorly as Pederson. 

 

Bloody heck, I hope I’m wrong but I think it would be a change that Sydney would appreciate 

Pedersen's very quick for his size, and Jayden Hunt's one of the quickest in the AFL.

[DV8 2,271]

35 minutes ago, Mad_Melbourne said:

I really think we’ve made a large selection error, unless Gawn is going to be a late change. 

They have one actual key forward, who is athletic and we are going in with a larger and slower side even with the swap of Hunt for Vince. We do not need 3 proper key position sized players. 

 

Watch Franklin play up the ground and Sydney score goals out the back. I think 3 key tall backs is a grave mistake against most forward lines, especially someone who covers the ground so poorly as Pederson. 

 

Bloody heck, I hope I’m wrong but I think it would be a change that Sydney would appreciate 

I think there might be another Out.

[picket fence 15,555]

36 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Bringing in hunt - A poor kick inable to consistently hit a target. 

Drop spargo who is the opposite.? 

I dont agree. 

Spargo has no pace and doesn't do enough for long enough! IMV

[DV8 2,271]

2 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Back and chop out ruckman

Good call I reckon, and overdue

Yep... is max, playing ?

2 hours ago, brendan said:

Maybe maxy is not 100% so pedo in to give him a good chop out, maxy could spend a lot of time in the goal square

Or in the stands ?

[Monocology 1,108]

Dropping Vince clearly cost us Saints game. 

Spargo just isn't there yet.

2 massive blunders at critical juncture.

[Bates Mate 3,967]

41 minutes ago, Chook said:

Pedersen's very quick for his size, 

What!!

[Demons11 6,404]

2 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Three talls down back seems dumber than three talls up front.

Franklin and Mccartin, who else is a tall for them? Unless we think Aliir will play forward? It just seems a strange change. Think it weakens the team too.

I think Pedo is coming into support Frost.  I think you’ll find he will be 3rd man up against Franklin all day. 

If they keep Franklin quiet, we win comfortably. 

[Demons11 6,404]

47 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Spargo has no pace and doesn't do enough for long enough! IMV

Spargo has no pace??  What games are you watching

[Demons11 6,404]

37 minutes ago, Monocology said:

Dropping Vince clearly cost us Saints game. 

Spargo just isn't there yet.

2 massive blunders at critical juncture.

Vince being out, had nothing to do with us losing against Saints.  

The midfield got killed 

[Chook 14,614]

1 hour ago, Chook said:

Pedersen's very quick for his size, and Jayden Hunt's one of the quickest in the AFL.

 

31 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

What!!

One of the most mobile big men in the AFL.

[Binmans PA 26,493]

1 hour ago, Monocology said:

Dropping Vince clearly cost us Saints game. 

Spargo just isn't there yet.

2 massive blunders at critical juncture.

I'm sorry. That's a laughable call.

[chook fowler 18,392]

1 minute ago, Chook said:

 

One of the most mobile big men in the AFL.

Chook we must be related. Twins separated at birth ala Arnie and Danny DeVito

[Chook 14,614]

4 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Chook we must be related. Twins separated at birth ala Arnie and Danny DeVito

I'll take Danny DeVito if you want to be Arnie. DeVito is hilarious. Action heroes are dime a dozen.

[picket fence 15,555]

37 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Spargo has no pace??  What games are you watching

He is not fast ! This observation was also made by a mate who played at the highest level!

 

[dazzledavey36 49,342]

1 hour ago, Monocology said:

Dropping Vince clearly cost us Saints game. 

Spargo just isn't there yet.

2 massive blunders at critical juncture.

Dropping Vince did not cost us the game at all,or played any percentage of losing that game.

 

[M_9 1,793]

50 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Spargo has no pace??  What games are you watching

I agree with the fence. I like Spargo and hope he stays, but he is not quick, and his endurance is 'limited'. 

Edited August 10, 2018 by M_9

[DemonLad5 1,640]

Say we make it to week 1 of the finals and Viney’s back, what would be our ideal changes to this team?

for me 

in; Viney, Hibberd, Melksham

out: JKH, Pedo, Vanders 

[Redleg 38,036]

3 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Play Spargo on him that's his role.

But everybody tells me that ANB is the running and pressure king.

I would rather Spargo concentrates on things he can do, which is kick goals and use the ball well, things which ANB can't.