1 minute ago, Sorry kids said:

More seriously though regardless of team performance how is it possible that some players do not show considerable improvement from one season to the next. As John Kenneddy said, "just do something" improve your strength, your speed, your left foot, your handball., your tackling, the list is endless. At least then we supporters can say, 'he did something" 

Kids I don't think we have any players that have improved over last season.

3 hours ago, 3183 Dee said:

I’m not sure that anyone at Melbourne speaks to Tom Morris. It was him who broke a story about Goodwin last year - whilst being employed by the club as one of the podcast presenters - and didn’t have the balls to turn up to the podcast the following week, when Goodwin was the guest.

Tom Morris is a Tom Morris fan.

1 hour ago, ManDee said:

Kids I don't think we have any players that have improved over last season.

I'd suggest Salem. Not that his best play is any better, but his consistency is significantly improved.

But that's only one player. I can't find another.

1 hour ago, TGR said:

So did Mark Neeld at Collingwood.  Big deal.

 

Ask Kobe Stevens about how he managed his milestone game. 

 

There's a bit of smoke, but you can keep playing with daddy's fuel can.

If well paid professional footballers blame their poor performance on a single bloke trying to do his job they can all go and get stuffed. 

If it is an actual issue then by now Mahoney should’ve well dealt with it. 

Stuff it. Let’s blame Mahoney as well! 

Pass me another jerry can. 

1 hour ago, ManDee said:

Kids I don't think we have any players that have improved over last season.

Meaning?

2 hours ago, ManDee said:

Kids I don't think we have any players that have improved over last season.

Salem definitely, should be leading the BnF atm

18 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Meaning?

You said "More seriously though regardless of team performance how is it possible that some players do not show considerable improvement from one season to the next....." 

I said  "I don't think we have any players that have improved over last season."

If you don't understand what I have said I can't help you.

13 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Salem definitely, should be leading the BnF atm

I agree Salem is probably our best & most consistent  performer this season. I do not think he is any better than last year, he has less competition.

It's scapegoat time unfortunately.  Macca is a great fella but he's old school.  I don't think there is anything wrong with that but obviously somebody does.  Our players need to harden up and understand the requirements of a professional athlete - in and out of season.  Our players are mentally weak unfortunately.  I think more time with Macca is probably what is needed however the opposite is the more likely outcome.

5 hours ago, ManDee said:

Kids I don't think we have any players that have improved over last season.

Did you say the comment" Kids I don't think we have any players who have improved over last season.

33 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Did you say the comment" Kids I don't think we have any players who have improved over last season.

Seriously? I suspect a troll, or an idiot.

On 8/5/2018 at 12:44 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

And 2 years after McCartney left they became a rabble again in 2017.  Still are.  Not necessarily the coaches - Club culture, I reckon.  Coaches come and go.  Culture just hangs around.

Along the way there was a two year hiatus when they managed to fluke a premiership.  

Fluke is precisely the right word.

If fans are looking for a scapegoat, pointing the finger at Maaca is not the answer. From personal experience, the bloke is as straight as a schoolboy at Christmas. If the players are after him, it's because he's delivered a few home truths. 

Without BM there would be no doggies flag, even if he wasn't there when they eonbit. He helped set the foundation there.

The work he has down with Harmes has been fantastic and I honestly believe he can have that impact on any players who are willing to listen to him and put the work in.

1 hour ago, ManDee said:

Seriously? I suspect a troll, or an idiot.

Lets have a coffee and chat and work it out. Free Thursday, how about you ManDee. Either that or answer the question.

1 hour ago, Adzman said:

Without BM there would be no doggies flag, even if he wasn't there when they eonbit. He helped set the foundation there.

The work he has down with Harmes has been fantastic and I honestly believe he can have that impact on any players who are willing to listen to him and put the work in.

He left in October 2014, 2 yrs before the flag and the place was a basket case. Lost their captain and one of their best players, their coach, the CEO left..and others. Great foundations 

Try not to rewrite history...

49 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

He left in October 2014, 2 yrs before the flag and the place was a basket case. Lost their captain and one of their best players, their coach, the CEO left..and others. Great foundations 

Try not to rewrite history...

So you don't believe its necessary to eject some senior players,  in order to crack and then change an  non-winning  culture.

You must believe they can all be turned around...  and follow the messiah.

On 4/22/2019 at 1:39 PM, Hell Bent said:

Tom  Morris reporting on On The Couch there are issues resurfacing which were discussed last year with Brendan McCartney.

Disconnect between some of the players and coaches with him including Goodwin. 

He mentioned he is a backline coach in conjunction with Chaplin,  that's the first I've heard of that.

 

 

 

Not shooting at you HB, but Tom Morris is a $h!+ stirrer of the 1st order. I think he models his media game on Purple...

The culture of rampant ego thrives in all areas of our game.

Nup. It was a basket case when he left.

Bevo came in and bingo. Adam Simpson won a flag using Clarkos teachings as well. Bolton not so lucky...

 

17 hours ago, ManDee said:

You said "More seriously though regardless of team performance how is it possible that some players do not show considerable improvement from one season to the next...." 

I said  "I don't think we have any players that have improved over last season."

If you don't understand what I have said I can't help you.

 

13 hours ago, Sorry kids said:

Did you say the comment" Kids I don't think we have any players who have improved over last season.

 

12 hours ago, ManDee said:

Seriously? I suspect a troll, or an idiot.

 

11 hours ago, Sorry kids said:

Lets have a coffee and chat and work it out. Free Thursday, how about you ManDee. Either that or answer the question.

I was right.

13 hours ago, jnrmac said:

He left in October 2014, 2 yrs before the flag and the place was a basket case. Lost their captain and one of their best players, their coach, the CEO left..and others. Great foundations 

Try not to rewrite history...

He left after Peter Gordon overruled the football department and recruited Tom Boyd himself, forcing Ryan Griffin out of the club and Mccartney resigned.

Two off the assistant coaches in 2016 when the dogs won the flag were close friends of my daughter and son in law and they advised me that it was the work done by Mccartney that enabled the dogs to win a flag.

16 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

If fans are looking for a scapegoat, pointing the finger at Maaca is not the answer. From personal experience, the bloke is as straight as a schoolboy at Christmas. If the players are after him, it's because he's delivered a few home truths. 

I've never heard this metaphor before. While I think I understand what you intend it to mean, for the life of me, I can't understand how this expression ever came to be in the first place. In fact, the more I think about it, the more it seems to express an anti-logical position. Nevertheless, as an expression, I love it.

On 4/23/2019 at 12:23 PM, Sorry kids said:

More seriously though regardless of team performance how is it possible that some players do not show considerable improvement from one season to the next

This has always surprised me. Fundamental skills can always be improved. Outside of official team training sessions, I wonder how many players take themselves off to practice their skills on their own. In the old days, many footballers from top line to kids would go to the local oval and repeatedly kick for goal on all angles, off both feet or just kick to kick relentlessly until dark. 

I suspect that most of the time, official training is for the most part the only time players work on their skills. The motivation is team based but how many players are sufficiently self-motivated to work on skill areas themselves?  

11 minutes ago, hemingway said:

This has always surprised me. Fundamental skills can always be improved. Outside of official team training sessions, I wonder how many players take themselves off to practice their skills on their own. In the old days, many footballers from top line to kids would go to the local oval and repeatedly kick for goal on all angles, off both feet or just kick to kick relentlessly until dark. 

I suspect that most of the time, official training is for the most part the only time players work on their skills. The motivation is team based but how many players are sufficiently self-motivated to work on skill areas themselves?  

I think your right  'hw',  Re the 70's and 80's... possibly not much before that...  and maybe not so since the mid noughties.

 

Skilled on both sides seemed to take a backward step, maybe around the advent of the flood...?

And also,  going full time Pro,  they are inside the club/gym for so much time,  do they have less free time.?