ProperDee 1,698 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 53 minutes ago, Docs Demons said: Couldn't agree more. Trac has to go and Tyson also plus I think where ever they found Petty from they need to send him back. Just not a AFL player. There won't be major changes as Goodwin is just as dumb as our players but ANB, Hannan, Smith plus plenty others will be lucky to stay in. Really? You can see that in a teenager playing his first game? Mate, you must be a genius. Or something else..... Quote
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, rjay said: The way the defence is structured and how they got the ball in quickly I felt for Petty today. He had no chance... ...but I felt more for us long sufferings. ...out me. Might be time for a self imposed suspension. Not far behind you Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,772 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 I think we need to revisit the idea of playing the third tall in the forward line together with tallish players such as Melksham and Hannan. T Smith may not be the answer but we look so much better when he is the mix and the same goes for Spargo. Garlett has done nothing at VFL level but I'm desperate enough to try him but how his breakaway plays can work in a crowded forward line I cannot see. To state the obvious the key is Hogan returning to 20 plus possession games. Let's be honest we are now at that stage of the season where the coach needs to do some rethinking as we're not going anywhere with this gameplan. 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,727 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 In: Frost, Spargo, Garlett Out: Petty, Tyson, Hannan Pretty simple really, we lack foot speed and defensive pressure. When Spargo came in we won 6 straight, not sure the reason but I think he contributed with the little things he did. I think Petty will be a solid key back but he's too young. It's do or die for the rest of the season so we need 'experienced' key backs in. Quote
What 18,810 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said: Current temperature in Darwin: 31 degrees. Forecast for Saturday is 33 degrees and 51% humidity lol If we manage to roll the Dockers up there the Doggies will be licking their lips the week after. Our players will be stuffed. If that happens its season over. The Darwin deal is an abomination. 2 2 1 Quote
Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,791 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 In: Spargo, Vince, Pedersen, Stretch, Frost (Ughhh...) Out: Weideman, Petty, Hannan, J. Smith, Tyson Quote
TeamPlayedFine39 8,525 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Petraccattack said: Forecast for Saturday is 33 degrees and 51% humidity lol If we manage to roll the Dockers up there the Doggies will be licking their lips the week after. Our players will be stuffed. If that happens its season over. The Darwin deal is an abomination. Agreed. i could tolerate it if it was before the bye, but it never is. I think the Alice game works well for all parties- the conditions are conducive to professional football, we make some much needed money and the views of the ground and surrounding area are spectacular for the tourism dollars. 2 Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,772 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, CelebratingJade said: In: Spargo, Vince, Pedersen, Stretch, Frost (Ughhh...) Out: Weideman, Petty, Hannan, J. Smith, Tyson maybe ....I'd go TSmith instead of Pedersen... Pedersen just doesn't gel with the other two forwards. Petty was too early and an unnecessary selection ... I would like to think we will be tactical about Darwin and think of the following week. Perhaps TomMac has a rest for example. Would be interested to hear more about Jetta... he did not look himself today. Quote
bobby1554 1,275 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 Hogan needs to go back to being the main forward target, forget about this roaming role. He is not Nick Riewoldt. Tom Mcdonald goes back to defence, he was one of the competitions best defenders, and with Lever out we need him there. Persist with Weideman. Sorry Harrison, but you have had your taste now spend the rest of the year in the VFL learning your trade. From the VFL, Baker could be a chance, and Stretch has done enough to earn a recall. Forget Garlett, clearly he is not in the right mind space, rarely gets near it at VFL level, Spargo a much better option. We need to get back to basics and win the next two games, confidence counts for a lot in this game. Quote
Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,791 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said: maybe ....I'd go TSmith instead of Pedersen... Pedersen just doesn't gel with the other two forwards. Petty was too early and an unnecessary selection ... I would like to think we will be tactical about Darwin and think of the following week. Perhaps TomMac has a rest for example. Would be interested to hear more about Jetta... he did not look himself today. Pedersen because he's at least competitive in ruck when giving Max a spell 1 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, bobby1554 said: Hogan needs to go back to being the main forward target, forget about this roaming role. He is not Nick Riewoldt. Tom Mcdonald goes back to defence, he was one of the competitions best defenders, and with Lever out we need him there. Persist with Weideman. Sorry Harrison, but you have had your taste now spend the rest of the year in the VFL learning your trade. From the VFL, Baker could be a chance, and Stretch has done enough to earn a recall. Forget Garlett, clearly he is not in the right mind space, rarely gets near it at VFL level, Spargo a much better option. We need to get back to basics and win the next two games, confidence counts for a lot in this game. Tom McDonald is literally the most effective tall forward in the comp. The solution is not to move him back (except for in the dying minutes of a tight game), it’s to have him and Hogan learn to play together. Some of the best teams in history had two big talls... Lynch and Brown, Roughead and Buddy etc etc. it’s a strength of ours, that we are [censored] up due to poor use coming into the forward 50, poor game plan and playing far too many marking forwards. 5 Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,772 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, CelebratingJade said: Pedersen because he's at least competitive in ruck when giving Max a spell ok. I see where you're coming from.. but a player needs to do more than be a relieving ruckman. By playing Pedersen in the backline at VFL level I think the coaching staff have officially removed him from consideration at least for the present. Quote
bobby1554 1,275 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jaded said: Tom McDonald is literally the most effective tall forward in the comp. The solution is not to move him back (except for in the dying minutes of a tight game), it’s to have him and Hogan learn to play together. Some of the best teams in history had two big talls... Lynch and Brown, Roughead and Buddy etc etc. it’s a strength of ours, that we are [censored] up due to poor use coming into the forward 50, poor game plan and playing far too many marking forwards. Yep, understand that. However our backline is severely lacking athe moment which is costing us big time. So he needs to go back. We kicked 19 goals today without him contributing much Quote
Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,791 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said: ok. I see where you're coming from.. but a player needs to do more than be a relieving ruckman. By playing Pedersen in the backline at VFL level I think the coaching staff have officially removed him from consideration at least for the present. Or they are warming him up to fill a gaping void at senior level... He always makes a contest, has good hands, and can kick. Gives me a lot more comfort than many others 2 Quote
Optimus D 283 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 Pity that there is no mid session draft we could get rid of some of these under achievers, but yet again who would have them. Just so disappointing. 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,675 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, Jaded said: Tom McDonald is literally the most effective tall forward in the comp. The solution is not to move him back (except for in the dying minutes of a tight game), it’s to have him and Hogan learn to play together. Some of the best teams in history had two big talls... Lynch and Brown, Roughead and Buddy etc etc. it’s a strength of ours, that we are [censored] up due to poor use coming into the forward 50, poor game plan and playing far too many marking forwards. The other solution is to send Hogan back. Played back as a junior. Will teach him a fair bit about competing and show him how much more he's possible of, both in the air and when the ball is on the ground. I would've swapped him with Petty today at half time. Initially I'd bring in a tall defender Frost or Keilty and go with a McDonald, Hogan, T Smith forward line, but I'd like to see the coaches at least try Hogan back. 3 Quote
Call Me What You Will 755 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 A la Gary Hardeman........and dare I say it.....a la David Neitz (Wayne Carey says hello) 1 Quote
Demon_JB 1,389 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 3 hours ago, The Chazz said: In; Stretch, Garlett, Frost, Hannan Out; Tyson, Petracca, Petty, Spargo Harsh on the bloke, considering he didn’t even play. 2 2 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) Firstly forget about the 3 talls the forward line is far too crowded. IN: Keilty, Stretch, Vince, Baker, Spargo OUT: Weideman, Petty, J.Smith, Hannan, Tyson Edited July 1, 2018 by WERRIDEE Quote
Dockett 32 1,239 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, bobby1554 said: Yep, understand that. However our backline is severely lacking athe moment which is costing us big time. So he needs to go back. We kicked 19 goals today without him contributing much Wonder if that was what Goodwin may have been alluding too for next week. He hated how the back half operated. Either that or it’s Frost or Keilty. After today doubt if the would roll the dice on Keilty and Pedo did zero when he got a crack. So reckon we might only go with two talls in the forward half Perhaps Frost, Stretch, Vince, Spargo for Petty, Weideman, ANB, Hannan. Quote
brendan 3,458 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) Out:petty, Tyson, weideman, Hannan in:Frost, Garlett, spargo, stretch Garlett and spargo to rotate forward and mid, we need good crumbers if we are going to keep bombing it forward need to keep the ball in there, stretch you know can run through the middle all day will be handy in hot conditions and Frost has to be better than petty at this stage and can at least provide a bit of dash out of the backline forgot about vince maybe in for someone aswell but can’t see us making 5 changes although I think we should so we have fresh players for bulldogs Edited July 1, 2018 by brendan Quote
Roost It 1,434 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 4 hours ago, No10 said: Out: Petty (too soon) J.Smith Hannan Trac (managed) In: Keilty (Drunkn was 100% on Fritsch and makes fair points) Vince Garlett Stretch Those calling for Lewis to be dropped are the same calling for BOG Bernie, would’ve won today with Vince. Lewis was good. Jones is finally being played outside, thankfully. He now needs to start being more damaging with less ball. The next person to suggest we drop Petracca should be banned 1 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 Why does everybody have Garlett in the team I know he's quick but he's a front runner no use to us. Quote
No10 466 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Roost It said: The next person to suggest we drop Petracca should be banned He lacks his usual power. Don’t believe he’s injured? I said ‘managed’. He’s under performing and it’s not magically turning around. This is exactly when an injury occurs. Yes, he had the bye. Going to Qld for the weekend isn’t a program designed to return his energy and power. Quote
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