On 22/06/2018 at 02:17, Petraccattack said:

Dont worry too much SF, they don't have Mason Cox to tear us apart. 

No Cox but they have a Dix............on. 

  On 22/06/2018 at 02:17, Petraccattack said:

Dont worry too much SF, they don't have Mason Cox to tear us apart. 

Stop it, I'm still having nightmares about that!

  On 22/06/2018 at 02:04, SFebey said:

Thats exactly my problem with selection, think we have screwed up, Omac takes someone but they have 3-4 other talls including Dixon/Westoff. I hope its not a massive blunder but I'm less confident than I was.

That's two.  But I get your drift.

The selection committee clearly believe the team we've selected can handle their forward line.  With Frost, Petty and potentially Kielty waiting in the wings, it's not as if we don't have the coverage down back if we want it.  But we didn't use it for a reason.

If Dixon kicks 6 and Westhoff kicks 4 then I'll say we've screwed up.  But I think we are going for the game style we've used all year and backing it - winning clearances, getting it forward and locking it in there for large amounts of time.  This takes the pressure off the backline and allows us to set up our wall and support each other in the contest.

  On 22/06/2018 at 02:20, Wiseblood said:

That's two.  But I get your drift.

The selection committee clearly believe the team we've selected can handle their forward line.  With Frost, Petty and potentially Kielty waiting in the wings, it's not as if we don't have the coverage down back if we want it.  But we didn't use it for a reason.

If Dixon kicks 6 and Westhoff kicks 4 then I'll say we've screwed up.  But I think we are going for the game style we've used all year and backing it - winning clearances, getting it forward and locking it in there for large amounts of time.  This takes the pressure off the backline and allows us to set up our wall and support each other in the contest.

3-4 other talls 

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 Dixon/Westoff

Yes, the other two are Ryder and Marshall.

Happy to back in the match committee WB but my MFCSS is creeping in after watching them the last two weeks. Mids/leadership in the guts critical tonight.

I think Frost was a safe bet considering their talls and frees up Hibberd and Smith to flanks where they should be playing anyway

Edited June 22, 20186 yr by SFebey

  On 22/06/2018 at 02:23, SFebey said:

3-4 other talls 

 Dixon/Westoff

Yes, the other two are Ryder and Marshall.

Happy to back in the match committee WB but my MFCSS is creeping in after watching them the last two weeks. Mids/leadership in the guts critical tonight.

I think Frost was a safe bet considering their talls and frees up Hibberd and Smith to flanks where they should be playing anyway

Marshall doesn't worry me and Ryder doesn't spend much time forward these days.  He's only kicked 4 goals for the season.

I get why some might feel as though we've gone in small, but I'm not worried by that.  My concern is the midfield and getting on top in there.  We have the talent to do it, we just need to put it together tonight and ensure we come out on top for the majority of the evening.

  On 22/06/2018 at 02:29, Wiseblood said:

Marshall doesn't worry me and Ryder doesn't spend much time forward these days.  He's only kicked 4 goals for the season.

I get why some might feel as though we've gone in small, but I'm not worried by that.  My concern is the midfield and getting on top in there.  We have the talent to do it, we just need to put it together tonight and ensure we come out on top for the majority of the evening.

Marshall doesn't worry in the sense of goalkicking, nor does Ryder, it's who they take re our defenders which frees up the others that is of concern.

It really is such an important game, lose and makes it hard for top 4, should be a cracker

Edited June 22, 20186 yr by SFebey

  On 22/06/2018 at 00:14, deeko said:

About to hit the road from Mildura for tonight’s blockbuster. The car is packed with 5 dees supporters locked and loaded.

Never been to Adelaide Oval for a night match. Very excited.

We are in the general admin/standing area which I’m guessing gets pretty feral. Is it worth donning the full dees kit or not worth the trouble from the locals?

Last year at the Crows game I had the full kit on while standing on the hill, they thought it was cute and chuckled as we went up for our first few goals... they get a little stroppy as the game wore on.

  On 22/06/2018 at 01:49, forever demons said:

how true that is,went pies members one day, with the good wife of the day,they were utter ferals we won i sang the song in the lift,and got out alive

You both deserved the Badge of Honour or better still the Military Cross.

  On 22/06/2018 at 02:18, ding said:

Yeah, thats what its like isnt it.

We can have a great run of wins, but 1 poor game and the doubt come racing back immediately.

Trust is something thats going to take a lot of time to build, considering our recent (and not so recent) history.

A win tonight would help ofc, but i dont think we have it in us yet.

Whatever happens tonight, i still think we will make the finals. I guess thats trust after all.

"Trust but verify", made famous by Ronald Reagan, sums your post up quite neatly.

  On 22/06/2018 at 00:14, deeko said:

About to hit the road from Mildura for tonight’s blockbuster. The car is packed with 5 dees supporters locked and loaded.

Never been to Adelaide Oval for a night match. Very excited.

We are in the general admin/standing area which I’m guessing gets pretty feral. Is it worth donning the full dees kit or not worth the trouble from the locals?

Port rarely draw a crowd.  

Therefore there is also General admin seating in the top of the stand at the river end, if the Ferals turn ugly, which they will when they start losing :.)

Ill be in the full gear - loud and proud!

I'm hoping that the bloke who celebrates loudly into the Channel Seven microphone after every Demons goal is also present at this game.  He seems to be a good luck charm.

I hope we play like we did in the first half against them last year and the second half like we did against Adelaide over there last year. Should silence everyone there except Woohoo guy and @McQueen.

looking forward to pacing around my lounge room all night in what I’m expecting will be a nail biter.

  On 21/06/2018 at 23:47, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I think you're confusing cheating with incompetence. And not just the umpires, but the whole Umpiring Department and the AFL's footy department.

That is seeking unfair advantages onfield. Such behaviour is more than incompetence, it is cheating. A deliberate act to legitimise an inate bias. 

  On 22/06/2018 at 02:23, SFebey said:

3-4 other talls 

 Dixon/Westoff

Yes, the other two are Ryder and Marshall.

Happy to back in the match committee WB but my MFCSS is creeping in after watching them the last two weeks. Mids/leadership in the guts critical tonight.

I think Frost was a safe bet considering their talls and frees up Hibberd and Smith to flanks where they should be playing anyway

Like that Frosty usage, the same for Hibbo and Smith. Got it wrong again, Simon.

  On 22/06/2018 at 03:03, Deemania since 56 said:

That is seeking unfair advantages onfield. Such behaviour is more than incompetence, it is cheating. A deliberate act to legitimise an inate bias. 

Them's fightin' words!

But we'll (hopefully) have to agree to disagree.

We haven't lost at any other venue outside the G this year. 3-0 interstate record. 

We play great footy at Adelaide Oval. 

Jack Watts out hurts us.... Oh wait on

Lock it in! 

  On 22/06/2018 at 01:30, timbo said:

I really would like to know if there's a data set containing teams playing, frees for against, umpires in game, frees awarded by umpire to which team and for what and what quarter and where the game is. Then apply a bit of analysis to see if there's any correlation between umpires and teams. 

 

Anyone aware are of any such data? Anyone here with any R or equivalent experience? Happy to have a play with the data but only new to stats and machine learning 

That data set is a very important need to be fulfilled. Supporters, observers and clubs are cramming for details on this issue as it is now such a prevalent occurrence. It ruins the game. The AFL is coaching the umpires to affect certain games in certain ways and so, would do anything to deny or negate such calls for scrutiny - hence, nothing has been done. It is a kangaroo court, a middle ages witch hunt, a caesarian whim. A capitalist monopoly with all of its questionable corruption gone public.

  On 22/06/2018 at 03:15, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Them's fightin' words!

But we'll (hopefully) have to agree to disagree.

Many on this site are sending me messages of support to avoid DL vitriole and others have commented extensively on these characteristics for several years on DL.

  On 21/06/2018 at 22:24, Jaded said:

I think we'll lose by around 3-4 goals.

Hope I'm wrong.

We've looked all at sea since losing Lever, and our midfield has had a shocker the last 2 matches. 

Its been 1 game.

Port Adelaide is the number 1 Clearance side, we are 10th. If that’s anything to go by, we will lose tonight.

Need to see a dramatic improvement in our clearances plus connection between Gawn and Brayshaw/Viney/Oliver.

We’re 6 - 0 away from the MCG this year.

We’re 3 - 0 at the new Adelaide Oval. We accounted for Port twice last season from memory.

We’re 2 - 4 at the MCG this season.

On those facts, I’ll back us in to win tonight. Ironically if it was at the G you’d tip Port. We need to  learn to play our home ground or we’re ever going to get anywhere come finals time!

Dees by 11 points.

Edited June 22, 20186 yr by Lord Travis

Bought the ticket, got a fence seat on the eastern side ($90 mind you) so really looking forward to being up close to the players so I can hurl abuse, pat them on the bum, that sorta thing.

Kicking off at the 2KW rooftop bar around 4pm so should be in fine form come bounce down.

Keep an eye out for me.

  On 21/06/2018 at 22:27, stevethemanjordan said:

Don't really understand the Tyson for Spargo change. 

We lose pressure in our forward half and haven't exactly addressed our lack or run/speed through the midfield. 

Yeh Tyson is in form but what have we done in regards to match ups? The run of Polec, Ebert and Motlop on the wings?  If Tyson plays wing I won't be happy. 

Essendon played it perfectly in the coaches box with match ups last night and sometimes I wonder whether Goodwin is too headstrong for his own good.  

I await with interest. 

Pretty obvious move for mine. We've lost the stoppages convincingly in the last few weeks, so Tyson's clearance strengths will contribute to our midfield and his weakness of lack of foot speed won't get shown up given Port's slower midfielder.

  On 22/06/2018 at 03:22, Deemania since 56 said:

That data set is a very important need to be fulfilled. Supporters, observers and clubs are cramming for details on this issue as it is now such a prevalent occurrence. It ruins the game. The AFL is coaching the umpires to affect certain games in certain ways and so, would do anything to deny or negate such calls for scrutiny - hence, nothing has been done. It is a kangaroo court, a middle ages witch hunt, a caesarian whim. A capitalist monopoly with all of its questionable corruption gone public.

I'll see if champion have it but it's probably proprietary and or $$

 

be good to fold it into a website "ratetheumpires"

Have no idea what to expect and If we lose I won't be surprised and if we win I will be happy. Hope to see a big game from Petracca and Hogan after a quiet queen's birthday game. 

But we need the win to keep in the top 8 and stay close to the top 4. Plus if we lose the media will just go on and on about us. 

I hope our midfield coach has been working overtime this week to fix our centre clearances. 

Edited June 22, 20186 yr by dees189227