https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/06/12/the-unfathomable-situation-facing-crows-and-betts/

I'm just happy the club cancelled our proposed camp...no good can come of these things.

25 minutes ago, rjay said:

I'm just happy the club cancelled our proposed camp...no good can come of these things.

By no means are the mob who ran the Adelaide camp, running the Melbourne camp...and all camps/workshops/seminars/bonding sessions - whatever language we want to use ... are all about vulnerability, relationship building and insight to the self. Sometimes the coordinators of these camps...don't necessarily have the training in welfare when things go awray, or honouring peoples needs NOT to be involved when They as an individual feel too vulnerable... because it all of a sudden becomes about the coordinators plans, not what is good for the individual.

So, great things CAN and DO and HAVE come of them... and sometimes [censored] things occur due to mismanagement.

Edited June 13, 20186 yr by Demonland
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If it's anything like what I've heard of similar camps, it's probably to do with them cutting off access to family members and spouses. All of the murmurs from inner sanctums I've heard about disgruntled players appear to be centred around a complete disregard for player wellbeing, and the mental wellbeing of their loved ones (who apparently are given no indication of when or where the players are going). 

I get the importance of intense training, but there is no place in the universe where football takes priority over family and well being. 

McClure is a turd for even writing that piece.  Now every media outlet and footy show is going to be speculating and talking about it. Respect his Betts’ wishes to not want to speak about it. 

8 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

McClure is a turd for even writing that piece.  Now every media outlet and footy show is going to be speculating and talking about it. Respect his Betts’ wishes to not want to speak about it. 

He is actually giving Eddie an out as to why he has had a poor year so far and for the members not to blame him if he leaves.

The story has been around before about disgruntled players, now we know Eddie is one of them.

From what I've heard there is actually 2 stories:

1. A racist post on social media

2. Something to do with Crows in off season

I could be wrong of course but you've got to feel for the guy, he's copped it his whole career and it's sad.

I thought earlier in the year there was a story about him not being able to speak to his heavily pregnant wife and kids. And for him that was bad for his family it was supposedly horrendous as she was not capable of doing as much due to bein preggers n stuff.

The first five words of the article were enough for me: "SEN newsman Sam McLure says..."

After that I had no confidence in what followed. It might be true, but equally, it might not be. And given the scarcity of detail, it's just muckraking journalism gossip.

 

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

McClure is a turd for even writing that piece.  Now every media outlet and footy show is going to be speculating and talking about it. Respect his Betts’ wishes to not want to speak about it. 

Totally agree. The guy wants to keep it private so let's write an article about it.

As much sincerity as emperor Tang.

Didn't McClure also state that Mitch McGovern wants to tear up his contract and ask for a trade?

Sounds like he's got an axe to grind with the Crows.

For that I applaud him.

34 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

I thought earlier in the year there was a story about him not being able to speak to his heavily pregnant wife and kids. And for him that was bad for his family it was supposedly horrendous as she was not capable of doing as much due to bein preggers n stuff.

If that is true that is totally abhorrent.

Leave the club.

I imagine it was horrendous indeed. No question. Would hate to leave my pregnant wife to do everything with other kids.

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3 hours ago, rjay said:

I'm just happy the club cancelled our proposed camp...no good can come of these things.

Yeah who's laughing about the camp now. ?????????????

47 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

I thought earlier in the year there was a story about him not being able to speak to his heavily pregnant wife and kids. And for him that was bad for his family it was supposedly horrendous as she was not capable of doing as much due to bein preggers n stuff.

That’s what i heard too, but i think there is more to it...which is why this article (or discussion) which is how it would have started, has taken place. 

I know nothing, except i worked in a Newsroom for many years...

And we thought our camp situation was a debacle. 

Garlett for Betts? ?

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

I thought earlier in the year there was a story about him not being able to speak to his heavily pregnant wife and kids. And for him that was bad for his family it was supposedly horrendous as she was not capable of doing as much due to bein preggers n stuff.

Think it is more than that, as it has been described as pretty unthinkable behaviour and that the Crows have really let down some players.

This will be catalyst for the AFLPA to push for NFL type offseason work out schedules. Only x amount of training sessions per offseason, only x amount of contact sessions etc.

 

Ps I mean the whole camp scenario will lead to changes in player welfare etc not 1 individuals experience. 

5 hours ago, SFebey said:

From what I've heard there is actually 2 stories:

1. A racist post on social media

2. Something to do with Crows in off season

I could be wrong of course but you've got to feel for the guy, he's copped it his whole career and it's sad.

Re No 1 I was told some female half wit Freo supporter asked Eddie for a selfie after the siren on the ground which he obliged and she then posted the selfie on FB complete with racial slurs. Where do these people come from? 

Edited June 13, 20186 yr by Earl Hood

6 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Re No 1 I was told some female half wit Freo supporter asked Eddie for a selfie after the siren on the ground which he obliged and she then posted the selfie on FB complete with racial slurs. Where do these people come from? 

I think it was someone else commenting on her post from what I gather, as they said the first comment below, but I could be wrong mate. Either way it’s bloody sad

Whatever happened, you can bet won't take place next off-season.

 

37 minutes ago, SFebey said:

I think it was someone else commenting on her post from what I gather, as they said the first comment below, but I could be wrong mate. Either way it’s bloody sad

I remember taking my dad to an MFC final and watching Davey run amok and an MFC supporter / barracker / whatever was teeing off with all sorts of vile racist stuff.  I'm only 5'7'' and not huge and turned around and called him out on it to which he responded with threats of violence

charming

 

Sadly i think Rascism is getting worse worldwide as the population gets to absurd levels. 

Edited June 13, 20186 yr by Sir Why You Little

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

Sadly i think Rascism is getting worse worlwide as the population gets to absurd levels. 

Social media has ruined the world, I actually hate it, had 2 friend in the last 3 years commit suicide over social media bullying etc. 

14 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Social media has ruined the world, I actually hate it, had 2 friend in the last 3 years commit suicide over social media bullying etc. 

Really. I had a mate suicide because of workplace bullying about 3 1/2 years ago

it is pure evil. Nobody was charged