On 17/06/2018 at 11:53, SFebey said:

Polec, Wines, Dixon, R Gray, Westoff, Ryder, Wingard, Rockliff, Boak, SPP - it isn’t going to be easy and a huge test to see where we’re at 

True but we do match up very well vs Port.  Have beaten them comfortably the last couple of times, include by 40 points at Adelaide Oval.

Im more confident of winning this game than I was of winning on Queens Birthday.

Edited June 17, 20186 yr by Petraccattack

  On 17/06/2018 at 12:06, jumbo returns said:

Petracca doesn't have the engine to run with Wines

I prefer him as a permanent forward, staying close and leading the press in our forward line

If coaches still don't know how to win (games) or a flag (for that matter) in modern footy, they need to watch the Tige's win today

Numbers, numbers, numbers and more numbers

As a forward he’s a poor shot on goal, he should be playing consistent midfield by now. But that’s just me, I see his talent but am frustrated by him

  On 17/06/2018 at 12:06, jumbo returns said:

Petracca doesn't have the engine to run with Wines

I prefer him as a permanent forward, staying close and leading the press in our forward line

If coaches still don't know how to win (games) or a flag (for that matter) in modern footy, they need to watch the Tige's win today

Numbers, numbers, numbers and more numbers

The speed, smarts and discipline of those Tiger forwards create their great pressure, but it's back up by a midfield that spread hard and cover the outlets. 

I think at some stage we'd be wise to give Petracca that midfield spreading lesson. 

Also watching Richmond today I couldn't help but think Spargo is outperforming Jack Higgins and would be excellent in that role for Richmond, yet they also have Castagna, Rioli and Butler. 

We have ANB (who's more up the ground anyway), Petracca and Hannan.

And the Cats had Parfitt, Gregson, McCarthy and Parson's all in the team to chase and pressure.

We need a heap more defensively from our smalls so we can lock it in forward against the good teams.

put viney on wines. get garlett in there. keep spargo & trac in too. not sure about pedo and t smith.. not sure about the backline. think if we can get on top in the midfield and get out to a lead, we will be ok.. lewis and vince need to deliver smarter. maybe vince dropped for frost? i'd be ok with petty coming in, but frost has done the job before and this is a huge game. 

State leagues reports that both Watts and Trenners performed strongly for the Magpies.

It would be excellent if they both fronted up against us on Friday night.

Weed for the Pedestal. 

For those who follow Casey, anyone knocking down the door there? 

Edited June 17, 20186 yr by Ethan Tremblay

  On 17/06/2018 at 11:47, Rusty Nails said:

I like this option King!  Wines is, by a country mile, their best player and in fab form right now.  My only issue is im not sure Tracc has the mental ability right now as he is very much in a loose checking mindset (mostly) and loves to receive and go on the outside.  I agree he needs educating though and play some more serious roles through the middle if he is to become a very good or great player vs just a handy one.

Also Nev on Motlop please, who is also having a very good run at the moment.

I still think we probably lose if we keep those two relatively quiet but the scoreboard (%) will be a little more respectable.  At the G it would be a coin flip.  The umps will give them at least 4 goals along the way (minimum) which will be the difference, even if we get the above right on the night.  If we don''t quieten those two and we leave the likes of Pedders / Hannan in i reckon we might be looking at 40 odd points.

I reckon we play Adelaide oval nett than the G right now. 

  On 17/06/2018 at 12:06, jumbo returns said:

Petracca doesn't have the engine to run with Wines

I prefer him as a permanent forward, staying close and leading the press in our forward line

If coaches still don't know how to win (games) or a flag (for that matter) in modern footy, they need to watch the Tige's win today

Numbers, numbers, numbers and more numbers

"Well played, number 5. Good mark, number 14. Man up, number 3." 

 

  On 17/06/2018 at 11:53, SFebey said:

Polec, Wines, Dixon, R Gray, Westoff, Ryder, Wingard, Rockliff, Boak, SPP - it isn’t going to be easy and a huge test to see where we’re at 

Polec is a havoc machine, ball winner, astute disposer of the ball so he must be stopped. Westoff slams us, frequently as Mr Fixit across the ground. Wines and Gray - give them Viney and Jetta, respectively. The rest we should handle. 

I've changed my mind re: changes this week. 

I think we need a couple more talls to come in this week. Smith wasn't bad, but we desperately need some more height in our backline. Oscar could be rag-dolled by Dixon if Port get easy ball. 

Pederson just doesn't do enough for me. Sure he can take a clunk, but everything else he does is so average. Doesn't provide pressure, doesn't use the ball smartly and just doesn't have footy smarts. 

I'd like one of Smith or Weideman in. I'd like to try Petty as another tall defender and I want Garlett to come in to our side with a really defined role. 

Ins: Petty, Smith and Garlett

Outs: Vince, Pederson, Harmes

I thought Harmes was very very poor in a few key areas against Collingwood. It would allow for Tom Mac to play more on the wing and become a threat. I think we could worry them with our height. 

But again, it'll all come down to who gets on top in the midfield. We need to come out breathing fire. 

  On 17/06/2018 at 12:54, McQueen said:

State leagues reports that both Watts and Trenners performed strongly for the Magpies.

It would be excellent if they both fronted up against us on Friday night.

I agree, it will make them considerably worse.  

BOM predicting 70% chance of rain on Friday, showers likely later in the day. 

Queens birthday feels so long ago. Everyone was as bad as each other minus a couple... I think Garlett needs to come back in, we’ve missed a bit of presence on the ground inside 50. He makes things happen from literally nothing & that’s what we need travelling interstate on the big stage. Spargo makes way for mine. I would also bring in Tyson & actually play him in the middle where he’s most damaging, we’ve been beaten in the clearances 2 weeks in arow.

IN: Garlett, Tyson

OUT: Spargo, Harmes

  On 18/06/2018 at 00:43, stevethemanjordan said:

I've changed my mind re: changes this week. 

I think we need a couple more talls to come in this week. Smith wasn't bad, but we desperately need some more height in our backline. Oscar could be rag-dolled by Dixon if Port get easy ball. 

Pederson just doesn't do enough for me. Sure he can take a clunk, but everything else he does is so average. Doesn't provide pressure, doesn't use the ball smartly and just doesn't have footy smarts. 

I'd like one of Smith or Weideman in. I'd like to try Petty as another tall defender and I want Garlett to come in to our side with a really defined role. 

Ins: Petty, Smith and Garlett

Outs: Vince, Pederson, Harmes

I thought Harmes was very very poor in a few key areas against Collingwood. It would allow for Tom Mac to play more on the wing and become a threat. I think we could worry them with our height. 

But again, it'll all come down to who gets on top in the midfield. We need to come out breathing fire. 

That really is a mixed bag of gross change at a time when stabilisation of midfield and attack is required. Dixon can be managed by the backmen working together better than what was done against the Filth. 

  On 18/06/2018 at 00:56, DemonLad5 said:

I prefer your report.

I found this for Friday.

Friday 22 June

Adelaide area

Partly cloudy. High (70%) chance of showers, most likely later in the day. Light winds becoming north to northwesterly 15 to 20 km/h during the morning.

  On 18/06/2018 at 00:43, stevethemanjordan said:

 and I want Garlett to come in to our side with a really defined role. 

Ins: Petty, Smith and Garlett

Outs: Vince, Pederson, Harmes

 

what would Garlett's role be, specifically?

  On 18/06/2018 at 00:58, Deemania since 56 said:

That really is a mixed bag of gross change at a time when stabilisation of midfield and attack is required. Dixon can be managed by the backmen working together better than what was done against the Filth. 

Vince and Harmes have both been poor in big games. Harmes is so bad defensively, looks great on the counter but had no appetite to work hard the other way. 

Vince has been serviceable at best in our string of wins and we can't play both him and Lewis in the same backline. I'd rather bring in another tall. And I've stated my reasons for Pederson.

Something has to change. We've played a very similar team and set-up for a while. Port are another tough challenge. I want to see some players challenged. Too many are in cruise mode. 

  On 18/06/2018 at 01:09, timbo said:

what would Garlett's role be, specifically?

Challenge him. Ask him to aim for 8 tackles and to pressure the oppo like crazy. If he does, he stays in the side. 

Stop Polec, RGray====Victory #9

  On 17/06/2018 at 13:01, Ethan Tremblay said:

Weed for the Pedestal. 

For those who follow Casey, anyone knocking down the door there? 

Hell, no. Weed is too great a risk as he just runs around the action looking mildly interested. He needs at least another year in the twos to find his strengths and deploy these on the field with consistency.

  On 18/06/2018 at 01:48, Deemania since 56 said:

Hell, no. Weed is too great a risk as he just runs around the action looking mildly interested. He needs at least another year in the twos to find his strengths and deploy these on the field with consistency.

Did you watch him in his games in the seniors earlier this year?

Far from just "running around the action looking mildly interested", he was leading up at the ball and presenting as a marking target better than ever.

He adds more than Pedersen did on Queen's Birthday.

It might be T Smith who gets recalled, but I'd certainly prefer Weideman to Pedersen.

  On 18/06/2018 at 01:18, shorty said:

Stop Polec, RGray====Victory #9

Too simplistic IMO.

If their midfield gets on top of ours like Collingwood's did, we'll lose, even if we can quell Polec and Gray.

  On 18/06/2018 at 00:43, stevethemanjordan said:

It would allow for Tom Mac to play more on the wing and become a threat. I think we could worry them with our height. 

 

Why would you play TMac anywhere outside of the forward 50? He is dominant there at the moment. If anything I feel we need to have just TMac and Hogan as our tall forwards and play them there permanently. 

Hannan has been poor for 3 weeks

  On 18/06/2018 at 02:49, jumbo returns said:

Hannan has been poor for 3 weeks

Agreed. He was OK against Crows and Bulldogs and managed to get on the end of some goals by slipping out the back. I thought he was very ordinary against Collingwood.  Only reason I can see him being kept in is as a marking option outside of Tmac/Hogan/Trac especially with Pederson and Bayley playing further up the ground now. But he certainly hasn't been performing well in the air.