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  On 07/06/2018 at 13:17, WERRIDEE said:

We have Garlett, Tyson and Hunt who can't get a game and would get some interest I'm not sure what we could get for them though.

So, do we have a pick in 2nd Rnd ?

yes we do. >>> http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-01/indicative-draft-order-round-six-edition

So what would Pick 25 & say Tyson, net us in a pick ?

What would Garlett and Pick 43 net us, in a pick?

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      On 07/06/2018 at 14:42, DV8 said:

    So, do we have a pick in 2nd Rnd ?

    yes we do. >>> http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-01/indicative-draft-order-round-six-edition

    So what would Pick 25 & say Tyson, net us in a pick ?

    What would Garlett and Pick 43 net us, in a pick?

    Tyson & pick 25 would probably land us a pick between 15 & 20 if we were to add Hunt and that may tempt Port to let go Wines.

    Garlett and pick 43 wouldn't land us much of a pick maybe pick 40 but pick 43 and Garlett should land us Langdon you wouldn't want to pay much more for Langdon.

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      On 07/06/2018 at 21:04, WERRIDEE said:

    Tyson & pick 25 would probably land us a pick between 15 & 20 if we were to add Hunt and that may tempt Port to let go Wines.

    Garlett and pick 43 wouldn't land us much of a pick maybe pick 40 but pick 43 and Garlett should land us Langdon you wouldn't want to pay much more for Langdon.

    Langdon is being chased by several clubs and it would cost more than that if a deal could be done. 

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      On 07/06/2018 at 22:04, Redleg said:

    Langdon is being chased by several clubs and it would cost more than that if a deal could be done. 

    No it shouldn't he would not be able to get into our senior team. If it costs more let him go.

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      On 07/06/2018 at 22:04, Redleg said:

    Langdon is being chased by several clubs and it would cost more than that if a deal could be done. 

    more likely it is because they think he might be a bargain

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    According to Kane Cornes, Port have had an offer on the table to Wines for some time. The offer would make him the highest paid at the club. I wonder what the  hold up is? Perhaps chasing success over mediocrity. 

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      On 08/06/2018 at 02:52, Ethan Tremblay said:

    According to Kane Cornes, Port have had an offer on the table to Wines for some time. The offer would make him the highest paid at the club. I wonder what the  hold up is? Perhaps chasing success over mediocrity. 

    seller's market, ethan

    there is no need for wines to hurry. besides may want a longer or shorter contract

    90% sure to re-sign though. mfc got nothing tradewise to offer

    best to hope he only extends till his rfa year (not long), then we can swoop

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      On 07/06/2018 at 21:04, WERRIDEE said:

    Tyson & pick 25 would probably land us a pick between 15 & 20 if we were to add Hunt and that may tempt Port to let go Wines.

    Garlett and pick 43 wouldn't land us much of a pick maybe pick 40 but pick 43 and Garlett should land us Langdon you wouldn't want to pay much more for Langdon.

    I don't know Langdon.  I remember his name from U-18's, but I know nothink.

     

    But your see what i'm getting at, where there is a will, then there is a way.

    Actually I would prefer we went after DShiel, than Wines. Shiel is definately better in ball use.

    But I think we do need that extra quality inside player. 

    Maybe Maynard will come good, but he is also a mature age... VDB I don't know.

    It's time for some cleansing of the list, preferably Via trade than delisting.

    But we have to be in it, if we want the chance to win Anything.

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      On 07/06/2018 at 12:18, WERRIDEE said:

    No chance of getting Wines as Lord Trav mentioned we have nothing to give Port.

    We can give them Jack Watts cardboard cutouts. I’m sure there are some in storage that need dusting and moving on. 

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    Wines in our midfield would just be a ridiculous amount of inside grunt. I don't know how we'd manage it, but I think we could find a way to fit him in.

    Edited by Chook

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      On 08/06/2018 at 02:52, Ethan Tremblay said:

    According to Kane Cornes, Port have had an offer on the table to Wines for some time. The offer would make him the highest paid at the club. I wonder what the  hold up is? Perhaps chasing success over mediocrity. 

    Maybe the contract terms are too long, et?

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      On 07/06/2018 at 03:24, Lord Travis said:

    Everyone needs to get this in their head.

    We do not have a first round pick this year.

    We are not allowed to trade our first round pick from next year. 

    How do we get Wines or other players who are not free agents and have to be traded for? The answer is we can’t, unless we trade our quality. So unless we are willing to trade Hogan, Oliver or Petracca, then this trade, or trades for other good players such as Langdon, cannot happen.

    Who says we can't trade out first rounder next year? AFLs policy on this is anything but clear. They approved the Cats trading out there's when no-one thought they'd be able to.

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    yes, the 'can't trade your first rounder in consecutive years is very rubbery

    as we picked oliver and weideman three years back and haven't had a first rounder since then, it would seem that we can't trade it

    but geelong seemed to have no dramas doing the equivalent last year

    as per usual, the afl makes it up as it goes along

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      On 08/06/2018 at 12:01, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    yes, the 'can't trade your first rounder in consecutive years is very rubbery

    as we picked oliver and weideman three years back and haven't had a first rounder since then, it would seem that we can't trade it

    but geelong seemed to have no dramas doing the equivalent last year

    as per usual, the afl makes it up as it goes along

    It seems if the will is strong enough,  the AFL will bend ?

    Poor old conservative Melbourne has never bent anything since back in the mid 60's,,,  when the whole world was bending things, from rules, to spoons.

     

     

    Since that time the only thing Melbourne has bent, is our minds.

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    I think with Wines we'd run the risk of being like Port currently... Boak, Wines, Ebert, Rockliff... Plenty of grunt but little class or x-factor in the middle.

    They may have won last night, but they're an average side.

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      On 08/06/2018 at 15:12, Demons1858 said:

    He isn’t going anywhere. Said he will decide soon so he can only be staying at port and holding out for the best contract

    He said the exact same thing in late April also and when interviewed by Garry on SEN this week got a little uncomfortable and couldn't give a straight answer. He's definitely considering bigger offers IMO

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      On 08/06/2018 at 22:24, Mach5 said:

    I think with Wines we'd run the risk of being like Port currently... Boak, Wines, Ebert, Rockliff... Plenty of grunt but little class or x-factor in the middle.

    They may have won last night, but they're an average side.

    rotations mach5, rotations. You don't play all the same type in the one setup you rotate them.

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    He’s great but not what our midfield ‘needs’...

    Gaff is definitely a skill set that would compliment Viney/Oliver/Jones/Harmes/Brayshaw et al.

    Also Petracca over the next few years will progressively spend more time in the midfield and he is something no team has enough of; power mid with good hands and explosive speed culminating in very good skills out of a contest.

    So keep some room for that to happen...

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    Add skipper

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      On 09/06/2018 at 00:42, SFebey said:

    He said the exact same thing in late April also and when interviewed by Garry on SEN this week got a little uncomfortable and couldn't give a straight answer. He's definitely considering bigger offers IMO

    I'd say Carlton or maybe even Essendon are into him.

    Essendon need to learn how run hard defensively as a unit.

    St Kilda don't need his grunt - they need class.

    Dogs wouldn't be an attractive destination at the moment, all going pear-shaped.

    Hawthorn would be just the type of team to come out of nowhere with a big offer.

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      On 09/06/2018 at 01:46, rpfc said:

    He’s great but not what our midfield ‘needs’...

     

    Did you see his game last night?

    ”We don’t need that” 

    only arrogance or stupidity would turn that down

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      On 09/06/2018 at 02:26, Sir Why You Little said:

    Did you see his game last night?

    ”We don’t need that” 

    only arrogance or stupidity would turn that down

    WYL, let's have a tiresome back and forth over the definition of 'needs' in inverted commas...

    Or you can accept that Viney and Oliver and Jones have more in common with Wines than they do with Gaff or other outside players?

     

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      On 09/06/2018 at 02:17, Mach5 said:

    I'd say Carlton or maybe even Essendon are into him.

    Essendon need to learn how run hard defensively as a unit.

    St Kilda don't need his grunt - they need class.

    Dogs wouldn't be an attractive destination at the moment, all going pear-shaped.

    Hawthorn would be just the type of team to come out of nowhere with a big offer.

    North want a big fish to choose them and they are looking better now than they were even 4-5 weeks ago

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