I don’t think we’ve been that bad; they’re just that much better than us

Delist Stretch, Harmes and ANB because if we settle for mediocre players then lets settle for a mediocre team.

Paul Roos must be sad to see what a poor coach his choice in Goodwin has turned out to be.

4 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

Neal-Bullen is a right footed clone of Tom Bugg, putrid skills

But he can run lots and lots.

most uninspiring half of footy ive ever seen from a team coming off a 11 goal loss.

Still really dumb going inside 50. Hogan the latest culprit.

What we are offering up is nothing short of disgusting. At the moment we wouldn't be capable of beating anyone. How we beat the Lions and Roos is beyond me.

I was undecided on Goodwin as a coach a couple of weeks ago, but wow, the past 10 days have made it really clear.

I've seen nothing to suggest Brayshaw is anything but a serviceable VFL player.

Imagine if we had a quality and composed ball user who could be that link from HB to HF. You know, someone like WATTS.

1 minute ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

I don’t think we’ve been that bad; they’re just that much better than us

Dafuq?

I've seen nothing to suggest Brayshaw is anything but a serviceable VFL player.

Dumb footy,  flawed planned. 

Need big changes at half time. 

The only club in the AFL that doesnt want to kick goals.   The only club in the AFL that falls asleep for 45 minutes + per game.

This team is totally disjointed, and I assume its fallout from the camp saga.  

Well that wasn’t good. Richmond hemmed our play in to one wing and the last kick nearly always went to a difficult contest. They are a very well drilled side and we are not coping.

Need things to change to get back in this. Need to somehow find a way to move the ball through the middle would be a good start.

Should be losing by 10+ goals

Someone smarter than me please explain what is wrong with maintaining some form of forward structure? Dumb football.  The challenge is we have had a dip and are well in it but I am waiting for our bad quarter. 

Not sure how Harmes and ANB have both gone so backwards. Harmes looks like a complete hack this season and ANB is looking embarrassingly scared along with this mate Stretch 

Effort decent.

Skills fucken horrendous.

Game plan... non existent unless its over handball, hanball to peoples feet and kick down the line.

 

How much longer for ANB and Harmes? 

Woeful 

We desperately need Viney back 

3 minutes ago, Steve Lattimer said:

Stretch is rubbish and not even at VFL level after the length of experience in the system.

I would agree with that. I'd cut a lot of these guys at seasons end (or at least let them know they aren't in our plans). I will say, Stretch  isn't taking us anywhere, James Harmes is terrible (especially considering he doesn't know his limits), Brayshaw is too slow for AFL - and can only play as a mid, and isn't even up to that, Tyson is wasteful, ineffective, and rarely seen defensively. I could go on and on, but I think those are the main guys who have stood out as poor to me (at least tonight). Really disheartened tonight. Haven't rated our year at all, even when we won it was poor football. We are regressing big time IMO. Its just really disappointing.

We just had a quarter with about 5 inside 50s vs. 20 odd. That's not coaching...just a lack of ability to out compete your opponent...

Lucky not to be 7 or 8 goals down.

I'm ignoring this thread as I can't watch the game, I'm only going by stats.

Could someone who is sound of mind give me, and others in the same boat, a brief run down of the half.  It seems like we're having a dip but running into the same problems.

Someone smarter than me please explain what is wrong with maintaining some form of forward structure? Dumb football.  The challenge is we have had a dip and are well in it but I am waiting for our bad quarter. 

We are getting destroyed at the contest. We have no structure at all over the entire ground, we are scared to kick inside and to switch,

[censored] disgrace.

6 minutes ago, Chook said:

Paul Roos must be sad to see what a poor coach his choice in Goodwin has turned out to be.

Fourth choice wasn’t he, behind Dew, Kirk, and Ling?