Match Preview and Team Selection - Round 5

[loges 6,767]

7 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Yeah let's put on the pressure on a kid who has played less than 10 game. Give me a spell mate. 

The Weed will be a star but will still need to find his feet. 

 

He's not hearing what I'm saying precious much, besides it's aimed mainly at the selectors

[titan_uranus 25,043]

I think we have at least two changes: Hunt and Tyson in for Lewis and Bugg.

Whether or not Weideman or Stretch get a game, and at whose expense (the extended Casey bench would suggest Vince, Garlett or Fritsch but hard to know how, if at all, that bench has any bearing on a decision that won't be made until tomorrow) remains to be seen.

[D4Life 2,510]

12 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

If Hardwick didn’t have a full overhaul of his coaching methods and philosophy then they never would have gelled like a team and continued to be mediocre.

Fair point, but take Martin & any of Cotchin/Rance/Riewoldt out and they wouldn’t have made finals! Look at their results and see how many games they would have dropped last year without two of their 4 stars!

 

 

[Demons11 7,051]

55 minutes ago, loges said:

He's not hearing what I'm saying precious much, besides it's aimed mainly at the selectors

So explain your point. 

The selectors still need to have an eye on the future. Players especially key position players need time to also develop in the seniors. 

It is very difficult for key forwards in the vfl, the grounds are smaller, therefore less space to work with and on top of that the delivery is usually not as good. 

[chook fowler 19,528]

I hope Stretch gets a go. At least he can use the ball and runs to spread.

[D4Life 2,510]

4 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I think we have at least two changes: Hunt and Tyson in for Lewis and Bugg.

Whether or not Weideman or Stretch get a game, and at whose expense (the extended Casey bench would suggest Vince, Garlett or Fritsch but hard to know how, if at all, that bench has any bearing on a decision that won't be made until tomorrow) remains to be seen.

Look at the small forward role over a season, and the very best in that role have quiet days. Garlett is one of the best, they could only leave him out for fitness reasons.

[John Crow Batty 8,878]

Rance on Weed will be like slug on lettuce.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

4 minutes ago, D4Life said:

Fair point, but take Martin & any of Cotchin/Rance/Riewoldt out and they wouldn’t have made finals! Look at their results and see how many games they would have dropped last year without two of their 4 stars!

 

 

But they had those players in previous years and were putrid.

Those players aren't the variable here.

Edited April 22, 2018 by Clint Bizkit

[Sir Why You Little 37,122]

On 20/04/2018 at 6:13 AM, DaveyDee said:

Its more than just fitness - its a total player health & welfare plan, almost every aspect of the players life is covered.

They (the Tigers) spent an absolute fortune in this area even down to buying gaming consoles - so in their down time the players can amuse themselves. Seriously everything was covered.   

Its all built on the theory of body, mind & soul - based on 100% honest between club, coaches and player - during and extending to after their playing days. 

But some people will tell you it was all luck why the won the flag last year - hahaha - or Neil Balme - hahaha

They must have you working hard, hey Who

know the Players and coaches on a first name basis, i am sure. What an absolute hero you are. 

PS4’s and a special diet is it, brilliant. 

What, and you measure each players poo ? output each day?

you Who, would volunteer for anything little man

get your ass off this discussion board you traitorous piece of rubbish

How dare you make money ? for Richmond and then Pop in here to show us your unwavering support for the MFC. 

You will be found out...

 

[rjay 25,075]

22 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

But they had those players in previous years and were putrid.

Those players aren't the variable here.

There isn't one variable though 'Clint', there never is.

...but those 4 players were a key component of the revamped plan.

Take Rance out and I would suggest the plan falters and they don't win the flag.

Hardwick finally worked to his strengths.

Luck and circumstance along with playing (astute coaching) with the cards that were dealt played a big part.

 

 

[jnrmac 20,182]

3 hours ago, low flying Robbo said:

Ok so Bugg and Lewis are definite outs. Hunt and Weids look like potential INs. Any others?

 

If Balic and Stretch are not in are they just rested?

Tyson

[Sir Why You Little 37,122]

On 20/04/2018 at 3:09 PM, Lord John said:

Laurie Fowler Cup ?

About time someone mentioned Laurie

he was a tough player, the kind we need right now

[puntkick 325]

3 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

I want a moment's silence at half time to remember Pia. 

You must think this is the home and away season !

[low flying Robbo 979]

10 hours ago, america de cali said:

Rance on Weed will be like slug on lettuce.

Make him lead to the opposite side of the ground and take Rance out of the contest

[loges 6,767]

11 hours ago, Demons11 said:

So explain your point. 

The selectors still need to have an eye on the future. Players especially key position players need time to also develop in the seniors. 

It is very difficult for key forwards in the vfl, the grounds are smaller, therefore less space to work with and on top of that the delivery is usually not as good. 

My point is this, he was gifted games last year with little return, I'm not convinced he's ready yet. Surely we are still playing for the now this year not the future. Would have liked him to have proven himself a bit longer at Casey.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,939]

Garlett confuses me.

In the space of 3 weeks, he's gone from bailing us out against Brisbane with a superb 4 goals to getting named in the Casey side (albeit not actually playing).

I'm assuming if he puts up another 5 possession 0 goal game tomorrow night, then he'll be in the twos next weekend.

[Clintosaurus 7,861]

When are the teams announced? 

[DaveyDee 421]

If Hunt, Stretch, Tyson & Weeds are our IN's - then I think we have nailed it.

You must break down the defensive structures of the Tigers both in the air and on the ground. 

You must make them accountable man on man - again if these are our in's I like it. I think we match up well on the Tigers on a man to man basis. 

3 sometimes forgotten players from the Tigers are Short, Houli & Valastuin - you must restrict their ball movement out the backline. Then you also must isolate Rance & Astbury and not allow them to play in tandem in the air.  For me Hogan goes to Rance 1 - 1 in the goal square, Weeds takes Astbury . 

[shorty 233]

In- Hunt , Weed, Tyson, Balic

Out-  Bugg, Lewis, Melksham , Harmes

[dworship 3,342]

I'm assuming everyone on here knows Frost didn't train with the main group at all on Saturday?

[SFebes 4,884]

If weid plays ahead of Pedersen has Goody made a blunder again at selection? Only time will tell I guess.

[shorty 233]

Tyson must go back into the middle , know at times his kicking is ordinary but I'm sure he has been played out of position, he is too good of a clearance player not to be there,  we have missed him...

[John Crow Batty 8,878]

17 minutes ago, SFebey said:

If weid plays ahead of Pedersen has Goody made a blunder again at selection? Only time will tell I guess.

Weed needs a chance to prove himself...again. If he fails spare parts Pederson returns. Goodwin has to play him. Young players needs to develop and he has been good enough to have another shot. Ross Lyon was criticised for continuing to play his favourite creaky old hacks to the detriment to young talent and that got him into trouble.

Edited April 23, 2018 by america de cali

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12 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Weed needs a chance to prove himself...again. If he fails spare parts Pederson returns. Goodwin has to play him. Young players needs to develop and he has been good enough to have another shot. Ross Lyon was criticised for continuing to play his favourite creaky old hacks to the detriment to young talent and that got him into trouble.

Agree with what you are saying but this is now possibly the most important game for the club this year in front of 85,000.

[Sir Why You Little 37,122]

3 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Agree with what you are saying but this is now possibly the most important game for the club this year in front of 85,000.

Best time to do it