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Match preview and team selection - Round 3

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OK, so Frost is named at CHF.  They tried that at start of 2016 and it definitely did not work.  Some here assume he will actually play in defense.  So, who gets pushed out of defense and who will be the other tallish forward?  Do we have another tallish player who can mark and kick goals! 

If we continue to bomb it i50 and they play an extra down back then heaven help us with a short forward line.  North will have 2 or 3 up against Jesse every time the ball gets bombed in.  Even if it goes to ground our small forwards have not shown the tenacity of Tiger small fwds to keep the ball in our fwd line. 

It looks like a makeshift forward line. Will be keen to see who kicks our goals :(

Edited by Lucifer's Hero

 

Goody certainly keeps you guessing.

Frosty plays back as a straight swap for Hunt. Might go with Waite, which as people have been baying for might free up Lever to be Captain Zone Man. Might also be a an attacking HB replicating Hunt's role. He won't go anywhere near brown. I hope. Won't play forward. I hope. no he won't.

Kent can only play forward so that's easy. And it suggests to me we will see more of the quick long bombs into our forward line, which sounds counter intuitive given we are down a tall in Pederson (who is stiff really - he has competed hard for the last two games) but i reckon they will be banking on Hogan, Trac and (remarkably, given how few games he has played) Fritsch to mark or bring the ball to ground. And look for gawn to push hard forward, leaving our talls at the other end to take care of things down the other end height wise

Replicating Richmond may backfire. Carey said something on thursday that stuck. "Other teams can try and copy Richmonds small forward model, but it can only work if you have that speed, and no one else does" or something to that effect. Speed AND the ferocity. 

Edited by Doodle Dee

 
4 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

I think it is Frost for Hunt - don’t think height, think speed and distribution.  Kent replaces Pedo.  Hard body to play wreckit Ralph in the front half.  He can mark and can kick a goal.  

The issue with that is we have just the one tall target up forward, and who gives Max a chop out?   Obviously that will be Frost.   I guess we will find out tomorrow how we structure up. 

Maybe Fritsch at full forward,  maybe Petracca but then that robs the midfield. 

I am sure there is a plan in place.  Will be interesting to see it unfold.  It will be a fair game of chess. 

29 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Kent is classy, quick and is a runner who kicks goals.

Frost plays tall and is also a runner who can be very quick,  insurance for Brown, but also makes us more attacking.

Pederson has been just ok and Hunt seems to be low in confidence.

Good changes.

Time will tell.

Either brilliant, or dreadful.


Re: Brayshaw, I recall a couple of posters in last weeks Frankston game commenting he ‘wasn’t into it’ and had a poor attitude . Can anyone else help me out here? 

Perhaps explains his omission again? 

11 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

Lucky he won't play there then.

I don't mind the selections, but I'm baffled how you could drop Hannan after round 1, but then keep Bugg after last week.

Forward pressure is the answer. Hannan floats in and out of games and from game to game. He will play one very good 3 goal game, two ordinary one goal some impact games, another one goal little impact game and two poor hardly touching the ball games.

He needs to make it 2 very good games, 2 good, an ordinary and a poor, then he’s worth it!

 
1 minute ago, D4Life said:

Forward pressure is the answer. Hannan floats in and out of games and from game to game. He will play one very good 3 goal game, two ordinary one goal some impact games, another one goal little impact game and two poor hardly touching the ball games.

He needs to make it 2 very good games, 2 good, an ordinary and a poor, then he’s worth it!

As opposed to Bugg?

With Bugg and Kent kicking a billion points we can’t afford any one else to miss a shot!

Add in Petraccas set shots...


24 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

I think it is Frost for Hunt - don’t think height, think speed and distribution.  Kent replaces Pedo.  Hard body to play wreckit Ralph in the front half.  He can mark and can kick a goal.  

I hope this is the case Buck.  Kent has shown patches of nice play at times but can also turn into our worst version of the invisible man at times.  Fingers crossed.

Just now, Gorgoroth said:

With Bugg and Kent kicking a billion points we can’t afford any one else to miss a shot!

Add in Petraccas set shots...

New year new Kent. Give him a chance before writing off his kicking. He's good on the run and mightve worked on set shots over Summer.

Edited by Doodle Dee

Just now, Rusty Nails said:

I hope this is the case Buck.  Kent has shown patches of nice play at times but can also turn into our worst version of the invisible man at times.  Fingers crossed.

They are, and will be until the final siren...

4 minutes ago, Doodle Dee said:

New year new Kent. Give him a chance before writing off his kicking. He's good on the run and mightve worked on set shots over Summer.

I’ll try... ?


I was going to say Pedo is stiff. I think I’ll go with Pedo is unfortunate.

2 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

I’ll try... ?

Got to give him a few games but I think he is pretty average and Gussy would have been ahead of him. 

11 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

As opposed to Bugg?

Now now FD!  Bugg has been working on his kicking during the summer ...and this week i'm sure!

2 minutes ago, P-man said:

I was going to say Pedo is stiff. I think I’ll go with Pedo is unfortunate.

What exaclty was he not doing? I thought chf was there to bring it to ground, aid in a moderate amount of  assists and hold up their end of a zone, all of which he did? Goals and pack marks a big bonus given circumstances of a dewy match? I fear we will be horrendously out marked this week.

Edited by Doodle Dee

Bugg will at least apply pressure. I see him as coming in at 21/22 position into the team, he makes the opposition earn it.

Hannan is more skilled but goes totally missing for too long.


33 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

OK, so Frost is named at CHF.  They tried that at start of 2016 and it definitely did not work.  Some here assume he will actually play in defense.  So, who gets pushed out of defense and who will be the other tallish forward?  Do we have another tallish player who can mark and kick goals! 

If we continue to bomb it i50 and they play an extra down back then heaven help us with a short forward line.  North will have 2 or 3 up against Jesse every time the ball gets bombed in.  Even if it goes to ground our small forwards have not shown the tenacity of Tiger small fwds to keep the ball in our fwd line. 

It looks like a makeshift forward line. Will be keen to see who kicks our goals :(

Filling the whole down back with Frost / Lever (in tandem) and one less up forward means more space for Hogan, Jeffy and Tracc to work their magic Lucifer!  We don't need Hogan to mark too often, just get it to ground and get our Ferrets (Jeffy/Hunt/Kent) to pounce front and square etc.

Presumably Frost is set to follow Brown around all day, from deep forward to into the ruck - hope he’s worked on his tank all summer, cos Brown is super fit

Vince to follow Higgins presumably and I would guess we are stacking our mids and going small up front, possibly a four man forward set up

Jetta - Frost

Lewis - Lever - O Mac - Hibberd - Wagner

Gawn - Oliver - Tyson - Salem - Vince - Jones - ANB

Melksham - Petracca - Garlett

Hogan

Bench: Harmes - Kent - Fritsch - Bugg 

 

6 minutes ago, Doodle Dee said:

What exaclty was he not doing? I thoughtchf was there to bring it to ground, aid in a moderate amount of  assists and hold up their end of a def zone. all of which he did? Goals and pack marks a big bonus? I fear we will be horrendously out marked this week.

As others have said it will depend on the delivery and pressure on those trying to deliver Doodle.  IMO this is a great challenge to those further up the field to look / glance before they dispose and try to get it to the advantage of designated forwards or put it out in front for them to run onto.

Quick long raking kicks out to favoured side of forwards (where possible) are also better than up and under bombs.  We need to work on that side also this week.  The Hawks do this beautifully week in week out without necessarily hitting up forwards all that often.

 

Dont like selections at all

Bugg was woeful last week , 

Harmes just as bad ( and drinks his own bathwater)

Would not have dropped Hunt under any circumstances as he has pace that can hurt

Pedo very very stiff

As for Gus what the fuuurg is going on there??

Dont like it ! Norf to continue the "Hoodoo" 

and if so we wont have improved 1 Iota on last year

Sorry but reality and pragmatism bite HARD!


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