dosent fill me with confidence , but anyone who follows titus oreily might have read today something along the lines

"both supporters can tell you why they can't win the game but none can tell you why they can"

I get the feeling this could blow out really badly either side and be a 40 point win or loss.

Filled with dread about this game. Will be genuinely surprised if we have enough class on the park to kick a winning score. And with no Watts or Salem I'm not sure how we even link up to get the ball inside 50.

Admittedly St Kilda haven't been in amazing form which is similar to us – but they have hunger and intensity which can snowball into impressive momentum as they run and run, similar to GWS. We need to be prepared for that.

If we don't win this, we won't get into the finals - but we won't deserve to be either.

Happy with the changes, a bit stiff for Maynard, but understand.

Good changes.

Both teams seem pretty short, I wonder why that is. This game will come down to who runs hardest the longest, more so than any normal game.

14 minutes ago, DemonWheels said:

Filled with dread about this game. Will be genuinely surprised if we have enough class on the park to kick a winning score. And with no Watts or Salem I'm not sure how we even link up to get the ball inside 50.

Admittedly St Kilda haven't been in amazing form which is similar to us – but they have hunger and intensity which can snowball into impressive momentum as they run and run, similar to GWS. We need to be prepared for that.

Don't know how will kick goals

4 hours ago, Nasher said:

My understanding of bulging discs is that the only remedy is surgery and that rest won't help. It's also not painful in isolation as there are no nerves in the discs, it only becomes an issue late in the condition if/when the vertebrae either side of the disc pinch the nerves in the spine. It's a condition that takes years and years to develop but only becomes painful when it comes to a head, but when it does it goes from painless to crippling.

I could be talking total bollocks, though, it's just what I remember from a session I did on it once at work. @Webber?

Is a bulging disc and a slipped disc the same? Because I had a slipped disc last year and it was one of the worst injuries I have ever experienced. It was so debilitating, I couldn't even lie down without pain. 

I have no idea how he is even playing with that type of back injury. 

So officially 4 changes again this week. We have made a lot of changes each week over the past month. This is now a very unsettled team that is lacking in class. Hopefully we come out breathing fire and dominate the contested ball otherwise it might get ugly.

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

Is a bulging disc and a slipped disc the same? Because I had a slipped disc last year and it was one of the worst injuries I have ever experienced. It was so debilitating, I couldn't even lie down without pain. 

I have no idea how he is even playing with that type of back injury. 

He wouldn't be playing with that injury. That report must be incorrect. If he had either a bulging or slipped disk then he wouldn't be standing and able to move properly. I know Watts is possibly the most mentally resilient player at the club, but no one can physically play with an injury like that. 

Just now, Lord Travis said:

He wouldn't be playing with that injury. That report must be incorrect. If he had either a bulging or slipped disk then he wouldn't be standing and able to move properly. I know Watts is possibly the most mentally resilient player at the club, but no one can physically play with an injury like that. 

Agreed. Back injuries are awful! Not even Viney could play through that.

Bye bye finals!  No Jack Watts to lift and turn on his best. No one now to produce the necessary goals and goal assists that we need. Bad call Goody, you have just committed football suicide. 

Edited August 11, 20178 yr by Bobby McKenzie

Harsh dropping Maynard, I thought he was pretty good.

Wagner is an ordinary replacement for Salem/Frost to be honest. 

1 minute ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

Bye bye finals!  No Jack Watts to lift and turn on his best. No one now to produce the necessary goals and goal assists that we need. Bad call Goody.

If we were relying on Watts to 'switch on' and get us the win we were screwed.

He deserved to be dropped.

Corey Maynard is stiff to miss out for Wagner

Goodwins not going to die wondering. You got to hand it to the guy. He doesn't lack for courage.

 

 

21 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

Bye bye finals!  No Jack Watts to lift and turn on his best. No one now to produce the necessary goals and goal assists that we need. Bad call Goody, you have just committed football suicide. 

Where was he over the last fortnight?  I'm a Watts fan, but you could hardly make a case that meant he stayed in the side.  If you aren't playing up to scratch then you get dropped.  Simple.

20 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Harsh dropping Maynard, I thought he was pretty good.

Wagner is an ordinary replacement for Salem/Frost to be honest. 

I agree re: Maynard, but it may be part of a correction from last weekend when we probably went in with one too many inside mids.  Adding Brayshaw, who is another who can play that role, means he has to miss out.

Not even the players can figure out why Maynard was dropped

35 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

Don't know how will kick goals

With 8 of our top 10 goal kickers for the year playing I think we will be just fine as long as we play well around stoppages and then deliver it well into our forwards.

7 minutes ago, Drunkn167 said:

Not even the players can figure out why Maynard was dropped

Team balance,  too many inside mids.  

He will get his chance again.

Maybe Maynard is a bit sore, otherwise a terrible decision he deserved another crack at it, so we have gone from $1.65 into $1.57 WTF is up with the betting saints at $2.45 is extraordinary value, this game is 50/50 at best if saints break even in the middle there forwards will get the job done 

2 minutes ago, brendan said:

Maybe Maynard is a bit sore, otherwise a terrible decision he deserved another crack at it, so we have gone from $1.65 into $1.57 WTF is up with the betting saints at $2.45 is extraordinary value, this game is 50/50 at best if saints break even in the middle there forwards will get the job done 

Thats incredible.

Where is the money coming from? It sure isnt coming from Demon supporters 

5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Choked on reading this!!!!

If that is true they have no understanding of what finals means to supporters after so long in the wilderness and ridicule.  We have a chance this year.  Lets take it!

And the impact on the rest of the club:  memberships, sponsors, prime TV slots, fixture benefits, merchandising etc etc. ?

The goal of the club is a premiership by 2020 or earlier and to build a long term successful club. If we make finals this year, bonus. 

Maybe it's some fans who don't understand what the club is trying to achieve..

Edited August 11, 20178 yr by Cards13

6 minutes ago, brendan said:

Maybe Maynard is a bit sore, otherwise a terrible decision he deserved another crack at it, so we have gone from $1.65 into $1.57 WTF is up with the betting saints at $2.45 is extraordinary value, this game is 50/50 at best if saints break even in the middle there forwards will get the job done 

As short as $1.55 on Tab, surely the punters aren't deterred by the Saints first 2017 appearance at the MCG. It seems we are the only ones backed at the moment.

48 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

Bye bye finals!  No Jack Watts to lift and turn on his best. No one now to produce the necessary goals and goal assists that we need. Bad call Goody, you have just committed football suicide. 

Hyperbole at its best.

22 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Team balance,  too many inside mids.  

He will get his chance again.

Yeah makes sense.

In other news Casey should kill it tomorrow, Watts and Fritsch leading up forward, with King and Spencer to chop out, and Frosty, Dec and Hutchins commanding down back, and at home.

Look for a big win.

58 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

Bye bye finals!  No Jack Watts to lift and turn on his best. No one now to produce the necessary goals and goal assists that we need. Bad call Goody, you have just committed football suicide. 

 

58 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

If we were relying on Watts to 'switch on' and get us the win we were screwed.

He deserved to be dropped.

The 3 Pie supporters behind me who said the same and worse on QB say hello Petracc!  He may have deserved it but at his best he is also a potential match winner.

58 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Corey Maynard is stiff to miss out for Wagner

Wagner and Weids (at this point in his career) in the same team doesn't instill me with much confidence for a win this week.

38 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Where was he over the last fortnight?  I'm a Watts fan, but you could hardly make a case that meant he stayed in the side.  If you aren't playing up to scratch then you get dropped.  Simple.

I agree re: Maynard, but it may be part of a correction from last weekend when we probably went in with one too many inside mids.  Adding Brayshaw, who is another who can play that role, means he has to miss out.

 

23 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Team balance,  too many inside mids.  

He will get his chance again.

Maynard deserved a place ahead of Tyson whose 'VFL standard' decision making, speed and ball skills cost us dearly in that first half last week.