Jump to content

The Elephant in the Room

Featured Replies

Posted

Is how boring and predictable the game is becoming.  Its becoming like a bad game of rugby union.  Its mostly congested and horrible.  The second half of the game against Port was boooring in the extreme.

I used to watch 3 or 4 games on the weekend now I can't be bothered unless the Dees are on TV.  I predict crowds will drop and less people will attend games.  Then sponsors will offer less $$ and when this happens the AFL will look at the rules to minimise congestion.

My teenage boys who were brought up on AFl now prefer to watch the Rugby League.

 

 

 
1 minute ago, Cranky Franky said:

Is how boring and predictable the game is becoming.  Its becoming like a bad game of rugby union.  Its mostly congested and horrible.  The second half of the game against Port was boooring in the extreme.

I used to watch 3 or 4 games on the weekend now I can't be bothered unless the Dees are on TV.  I predict crowds will drop and less people will attend games.  Then sponsors will offer less $$ and when this happens the AFL will look at the rules to minimise congestion.

My teenage boys who were brought up on AFl now prefer to watch the Rugby League.

 

 

All it will take is a coach to work out how to beat it and it will change. Problem is that since Pagans paddock every change has been further and further towards 36 players following the ball around the ground. 

Any second half when the Demons are winning all day is awesome from where i sit. Bring on 30 years of Domination, we have all seen quite enough of the alternative. 

 

Not sure if this is the elephant in the room.

 

There has been more close games this season than any other season I can remember. Record attendances, so many swings in games, upsets galore and a very even season.

boring, predictable, certainly don't come to mind.

The second half of the Melb v Port game was contest after contest, no side willing to give an inch. In the balance it was enthralling arm wrestle and the Dees did well to hold tight and score late to secure a great win.

 

 

1 minute ago, Chris said:

All it will take is a coach to work out how to beat it and it will change. Problem is that since Pagans paddock every change has been further and further towards 36 players following the ball around the ground. 

Its easy. Stop the Interchange rotations. 

All of these modern problems have begun from the interchange rotation numbers...

K.B. Is dead right on this one


Completely disagree, maybe a couple of years ago it was a worry but the players are getting better at playing through the congestion. You see guys like Clayton who come in and absolutely thrive off it. it's incredibly exciting when a team breaks through lines and has clear space in front of them, and players like Hunt and Frost have added value because they can tear through these lines. The games this year have been incredible, I really don't understand how you can say they're boring.

I enjoyed the second half especially the last quarter where we basically kept them in their back half after their two early goals. Our zone worked perfectly with Lewis setting up as the general at half back.

Two contrasting halves but brilliant to watch in my eyes, these styles can take you a long way to success. 

Congestion is the biggest issue with the sport and because of the open nature of the game it is impossible to police (without creating zones).

However, AFL crowds are on the increase whereas NRL crowds are on the way down and Super Rugby is on its knees so your assessment is incorrect.

It's still the best sport in the world, albeit too crowded at times.

 

That 15 minutes in the last qtr on Saturday when neither team scored was as tough, brutal and physically demanding football that you will see. 

I found it great to watch

11 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Is how boring and predictable the game is becoming.  Its becoming like a bad game of rugby union.  Its mostly congested and horrible.  The second half of the game against Port was boooring in the extreme.

I used to watch 3 or 4 games on the weekend now I can't be bothered unless the Dees are on TV.  I predict crowds will drop and less people will attend games.  Then sponsors will offer less $$ and when this happens the AFL will look at the rules to minimise congestion.

My teenage boys who were brought up on AFl now prefer to watch the Rugby League.

 

 

Record attendances and viewership tells another story. I enjoyed the hard fought slog of the 2nd half just as much as the openness of the 1st


2 minutes ago, deeflog said:

That 15 minutes in the last qtr on Saturday when neither team scored was as tough, brutal and physically demanding football that you will see. 

I found it great to watch

Indeed! 

Just put everyone in Fremantle jumpers for an elephant in the room.

non MFC games are becoming like basketball to me. I love the NBA but like non MFC games I only closely watch when it's towards the end of a game and it is close.  

The game is fine - the elephants are named 'umpiring' and 'match review panel'.

These two things are in dire need of sorting out.

Do that and I'll enjoy my footy much better.

I thought this thread was going to be about us winning the Grand Final


11 minutes ago, Demon_spurs said:

I thought this thread was going to be about us winning the Grand Final

Speaking of that did any one else hear last night on SEN when Dermit Breaton said the Dee's are the best placed side in the eight to win the GF OX almost feel off his chair he was that happy. Hope he is right?

I would say this has been one of the most even and unpredictable seasons that I can remember- and my deplorable tipping results can testify to that!

So many close finishes and come from behind victories (even some pearlers involving the dees) - I've thoroughly enjoyed watching the footy this year.  This year there doesn't seem to be any safe margin at any stage of the match.

6 minutes ago, deebug said:

Speaking of that did any one else hear last night on SEN when Dermit Breaton said the Dee's are the best placed side in the eight to win the GF OX almost feel off his chair he was that happy. Hope he is right?

Not sure why, But Dermott has always had a soft spot for the Demons. 

I think it may stem from the 2 games in 1990 when we beat Whorethorn 2 weeks running

Toughest 8 quarters of Football i have ever been to

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Not sure why, But Dermott has always had a soft spot for the Demons. 

I think it may stem from the 2 games in 1990 when we beat Whorethorn 2 weeks running

Toughest 8 quarters of Football i have ever been to

I just hope he is right? 


I've always seen this as a controversial phrase.

When I used it  once backstage at an Adele concert I got kicked out.

BTW- if Dermatitis  says we are GF or flag worthy then we are worthy.

He may not be as intelligent as he would think ,but footy and fornication are two things he knows deeply,sideways and backwards.

I understand why the OP is saying what he/she said but but you can thank Goodwin for the second half being boring, and at the same time you can thank him for helping us to win the game because of it. 

He recognised Port were getting their free flowing game going to he stopped it from happening. When Port got a run on early in the 4th he was able to communicate to the players to shut it down, and so there was no goal for about 10min but it essentially killed the game. 

Lotsof games I've watched from Melbourne have been relatively high scoring, so if Goodwin has to alter it to win the game, that's what he's paid to do. 

As for your prediction of less crowds, memberships, TV viewers; the numbers are going up and I'd imagine will continue to go up. This has been one of the most exciting and unpredictable seasons ever. 

 
2 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

Is how boring and predictable the game is becoming.  Its becoming like a bad game of rugby union.  Its mostly congested and horrible.  The second half of the game against Port was boooring in the extreme.

I used to watch 3 or 4 games on the weekend now I can't be bothered unless the Dees are on TV.  I predict crowds will drop and less people will attend games.  Then sponsors will offer less $$ and when this happens the AFL will look at the rules to minimise congestion.

My teenage boys who were brought up on AFl now prefer to watch the Rugby League.

 

 

I suppose it is all relative, like what you are pointing to. One of my loves being soccer, a boring Quarter of AFL has infinitely more excitement than an interesting half of soccer. It always takes me back at how slow the pace of a soccer game is when I have spent a weekend watching AFL, which is non stop contests. Don't get me wrong, I love Soccer and get a great amount of enjoyment out of it, but AFL is an andrenaline rush in comparison. Just my two cents.

Edited by Mogwai

8 minutes ago, Biffen said:

I've always seen this as a controversial phrase.

When I used it  once backstage at an Adele concert I got kicked out.

BTW- if Dermatitis  says we are GF or flag worthy then we are worthy.

He may not be as intelligent as he would think ,but footy and fornication are two things he knows deeply,sideways and backwards.

I feel the same way about what he has to say but i can tell you after he said we can this years flag my ears pricke up.


Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Featured Content

  • REPORT: Carlton

    I am now certain that the decline in fortunes of the Melbourne Football Club from a premiership power with the potential for more success to come in the future, started when the team ran out for their Round 9 match up against Carlton last year. After knocking over the Cats in a fierce contest the week before, the Demons looked uninterested at the start of play and gave the Blues a six goal start. They recovered to almost snatch victory but lost narrowly with a score of 11.10.76 to 12.5.77. Yesterday, they revisited the scene and provided their fans with a similar display of ineptitude early in the proceedings. Their attitude at the start was poor, given that the game was so winnable. Unsurprisingly, the resulting score was almost identical to that of last year and for the fourth time in succession, the club has lost a game against Carlton despite having more scoring opportunities. 

    • 3 replies
  • CASEY: Carlton

    The Casey Demons smashed the Carlton Reserves off the park at Casey Fields on Sunday to retain a hold on an end of season wild card place. It was a comprehensive 108 point victory in which the home side was dominant and several of its players stood out but, in spite of the positivity of such a display, we need to place an asterisk over the outcome which saw a net 100 point advantage to the combined scores in the two contests between Demons and Blues over the weekend.

    • 0 replies
  • PREGAME: St. Kilda

    The Demons come face to face with St. Kilda for the second time this season for their return clash at Marvel Stadium on Sunday. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Clap
      • Like
    • 111 replies
  • PODCAST: Carlton

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Tuesday, 22nd July @ 8:00pm. Join Binman & I as we dissect the Dees disappointing loss to Carlton at the MCG.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Love
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 31 replies
  • VOTES: Carlton

    Captain Max Gawn still has a massive lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Christian Petracca, Jake Bowey, Kozzy Pickett & Clayton Oliver. Your votes please; 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

      • Like
    • 22 replies
  • POSTGAME: Carlton

    A near full strength Demons were outplayed all night against a Blues outfit that was under the pump and missing at least 9 or 10 of the best players. Time for some hard decisions to be made across the board.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 316 replies