5 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Of course I am disappointed, the Club has handled it, I don't feel the need to adopt a holier than thou attitude and go on and on about it

They [censored] up, nobody died

No they didn't. 

But if players on the list (like 4 of them at a single time) are going to continue to f'up  like this then surely you must understand that it'll add considerabley to the club continuing to underachieve.

 

38 minutes ago, McQueen said:

 

I find it quite astonishing that you defend this quartet of players given the circumstances of the injury list and available spots in the 22 that are there for the taking.

I guess those spots are for the players on the list that are totally invested in the club, have bought into the 'journey' that Goodwin speaks of so regularly, are driving the right behaviours to produce a strong culture at the club which will set is up for a sustained period of success.

FMD, Saty. I don't care if we're not in a position to know what actually went on - I couldn't give a stuff! And it's great the club has handled it - I mean as if they didn't have better things to do like pick the best 22 players available to hopefully pull off a remarkable victory against the Swans considering we'd played 4 games in 18 days!

You need to look at the bigger picture here. You commit a lot of your time to the club in volunteer hours and we all invest time, money and emotions into the club hoping that one day soon we'll win a flag. To achieve this, these "young blokes in their 20's" sign a contract and enter into an environment that gives them every chance to succeed at there profession but ultimately it's too easy to go a drink beers against club/team rules.

Pretty simple really.

How you can't be disappointed is beyond me.

 

Two of Kennedy, JKH and Kent in place of White and Wagner would have helped us in the midfield by providing some much needed run and spread.  Glad the club set the tone by making them ineligible for selection and look forward to seeing the players to work hard and make up for their indescretion.

1 hour ago, McQueen said:

No they didn't. 

But if players on the list (like 4 of them at a single time) are going to continue to f'up  like this then surely you must understand that it'll add considerabley to the club continuing to underachieve.

 

This is just twaddle

From what I heard Trac explain on Game Day, they didn't go out on the razzle, they had a beer, when under the circumstances they shouldn't have, so they were stupid

The Club, if it was a serious misdemeanor, could have punished them a lot more, so they have punished them appropriately 

In hindsight perhaps one or two of them could have helped change the result on Friday night, although I doubt it coz they have previously been lambasted on this forum for not being up to it

So you can't have it both ways

Move on, nothing to see

Edited July 2, 20178 yr by Satyriconhome

22 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

This is just twaddle

From what I heard Trac explain on Game Day, they didn't go out on the razzle, they had a beer, when under the circumstances they shouldn't have, so they were stupid

The Club, if it was a serious misdemeanor, could have punished them a lot more, so they have punished them appropriately 

In hindsight perhaps one or two  of them coukd have helped change the result on Friday night, although I doubt it coz they have previously been lambasted on this forum for not being up to it

So you can't have it both ways

Move on, nothing to see

Twaddle? Is that how you comprehend it?

If so, I'm wasting my time.

13 hours ago, Win4theAges said:

He's a clown stirring up trouble.

I'll give you the first part. 

This is really frustrating. We had about 5-6 guys on Friday night whose only plausible role was to play off half-back.

We were unable to lock the ball in our forward half and get repeat entries. 3 of the 4 players involved would have been a chance to assist in that role.

Sydney were better around the ball, so I don't think it was match-defining, however, it would have helped.

 

 

3 minutes ago, WAClark said:

This is really frustrating. We had about 5-6 guys on Friday night whose only plausible role was to play off half-back.

We were unable to lock the ball in our forward half and get repeat entries. 3 of the 4 players involved would have been a chance to assist in that role.

Sydney were better around the ball, so I don't think it was match-defining, however, it would have helped.

 

Kent is not noted on here for his defensive efforts

Kennedy Harris is noted on here as mot AFL standard, has been playing midfield at Casey

Same with Kennedy

Spencer is a ruckman

Who do you mean

Just a note

Half of the AFL squad is at a winery this weekend for a function, god forbid if they have a drink of wine

12 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Anybody actually know the facts on here, the Club obviously did and metered out what they thought was an appropiate penalty

Done and dusted in house, move on

Done and dusted maybe, but that was a costly mistake!

Kent and JHK would have been a lot better to have in the team on Friday than White and Wagner. 

Considering these 4 players are struggling to get a game at senior level, it is a pretty dumb life choice to break clear club rules and set yourself back further.

They are lucky we have so many injuries, or they would struggle to break into the senior team. 

Idiots all 4 of them, and glad we took a strong stance. Hope they get their sh*t together.

37 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

Half of the AFL squad is at a winery this weekend for a function, god forbid if they have a drink of wine

Give me a break! We have 8 days off, and all the players at that function are senior players, who have runs of the board and who I trust completely to do the right thing.

I doubt any of them are getting wasted at a function during the day with their wives/partners. 

We are finally a professional club setting standards. Thank god for that!

50 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

Kent is not noted on here for his defensive efforts

Kennedy Harris is noted on here as mot AFL standard, has been playing midfield at Casey

Same with Kennedy

Spencer is a ruckman

Who do you mean

Just a note

Half of the AFL squad is at a winery this weekend for a function, god forbid if they have a drink of wine

As usual you're comparing apples with oranges. 

Which winery...and what's the occasion ?

53 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Just a note

Half of the AFL squad is at a winery this weekend for a function, god forbid if they have a drink of wine

Completely different circumstances. There's a 9 day break after the Sydney match, completely different recovery protocol to a 6 day break with interstate travel.

The club clearly imposed a no alcohol ban during our successive 6 day break games for the entire list, so as to ensure everyone was available in elite condition if required for seniors. The 4 players in question burned the club, defied the ban, and weren't selected at a time we desperately needed their contributions.

They let the entire team down and were rightly punished.

Demons midfielder Christian Petracca addressed the matter on Sunday morning.

"The VFL (team) had a seven-day break so they were allowed to have a few beers but they probably got to realise that halfway through the game (against West Coast), Jeffy Garlett came down injured and so did (Christian) Salem, so there were (opportunities) for selection," Petracca told Channel Seven.

Cest la vie

They F**k$d up

5 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Completely different circumstances. There's a 9 day break after the Sydney match, completely different recovery protocol to a 6 day break with interstate travel.

The club clearly imposed a no alcohol ban during our successive 6 day break games for the entire list, so as to ensure everyone was available in elite condition if required for seniors. The 4 players in question burned the club, defied the ban, and weren't selected at a time we desperately needed their contributions.

They let the entire team down and were rightly punished.

It's fairly obvious to most. But some on here think they always know more....

3 hours ago, Copuchas said:

Not defending the quartet because I don't know what specific parameters were set.  However, there is a possibility that the Club put in place a protocol for the 4 games in 18 days for the entire senior list without thinking through that the 6 day turnarounds and travel component didn't apply to the Casey fixture and therefore ought not apply to the Casey players.  There is also a possibility that the quartet thought for the same reason, that it didn't apply to them ie misunderstanding.   I'm fully supportive of the Club standing firm, would just advocate that the protocols put in place are well thought through.

Im sure all players would have been clear on the rules & if not as a professional  would you not check??

Players let down their team mates and club down!

32 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Which winery...and what's the occasion ?

Bugg's going away party.

2 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Bugg's going away party.

 

I know their surnames both begin with W, but please, could DLs stop talking "White and Wagner" as though they are joined at the hip. This is very short-sighted, and means that anything else above mentioned DLs have to say is disrespected! Wagner was a replacement for Salem. He provides good run off half-back, has already established himself as a handy pick-up (and "up to AFL standard" for those that adjudicate according to some subjective judgement that is set in concrete at birth!). Wagner earnt his spot and should remain in the team beyond the return of some of our stars!

Got to love the posters who demand we "move on" and stop discussing players breaking team rules on a discussion forum where the thread is about the fermented foursome breaking team rules!  Lol

 

50 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said:

Demons midfielder Christian Petracca addressed the matter on Sunday morning.

"The VFL (team) had a seven-day break so they were allowed to have a few beers but they probably got to realise that halfway through the game (against West Coast), Jeffy Garlett came down injured and so did (Christian) Salem, so there were (opportunities) for selection," Petracca told Channel Seven.

Cest la vie

They F**k$d up

Overheard Jon Ralph on Fox earlier and he elaborated on Petracca's comments. I believe he said the 4 players were kept appraised on the injury situation as it developed during the West Coast game. But rather than call it a night, they disregarded the messages and partied on.

Hard to defend that and certainly not just "a beer or two," as cited by some posters.

Edited July 2, 20178 yr by SaberFang
typo

19 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Overheard Jon Ralph on Fox earlier and he elaborated on Petracca's comments. I believe he said the 4 players were kept appraised on the injury situation as it developed during the West Coast game. But rather than call it a night, they disregarded the messages and partied on.

Hard to defend that and certainly not just "a beer or two," as cited by some posters.

Stupid is ...as stupid does !!

so jon ralph is the new guru for demonland?

13 hours ago, puntkick said:

Name one ?

Here's another: http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/181212/collingwood-suspends-swan-after-night-out/

16 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

so jon ralph is the new guru for demonland?

Probably not but it makes sense the club would be proactive with updates.

9 hours ago, TGR said:

This if news pal.

 

FCS

The MFC should employ you to take the players out drinking. Everyone would would make their excuses after the first round and quietly head home.